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Jim Chimmerney said:
If I see that 'More pay' joke again, why I oughttaa.......
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Don’t blame me, it’s Danny04 that has that as his working title.

I’m focusing my energies instead on ensuring no week in the rest of preseason goes by without an “is Jags the backup keeper next season” post. Think I’ve only had to add my own version of that twice so far.
 

Maidenhead said:
And at the moment it looks like we don't want to play

Like I said, I'm not desperate for him but I do think that despite the protestations of their supporters, Brentford need to sell.

The fact that they appear to want to accelerate their cash flow convinces me even more that the best cards are in our hands.

They have made several other acquisitions and they are subject to the same profit and sustainability rules as everyone else.

It doesn't matter how loaded their owners are, they can't just chuck money at the playing side, ask Mr Chansiri if you need confirmation.

I'm sure we will have other irons in the fire, maybe even better options than Maupay

I'm relaxed, if he comes, he comes. If he doesn't, he doesn't and we move on.
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A poster on our forums recently pointed out that we incurred a total loss of ~£5m between '16-'18 and potentially made a profit last year. - not sure how accurate that is, but if it's correct it puts us in a strong position. FFP states that we're not allowed to lose £39m across three rolling seasons.

We took £12m for Mepham, ~£6m for Woods and £3m for Bentley this calendar year (yes, I realise accounting periods are different) and so far we've spent ~£9m this summer, with potentially £4m more on Jansson. Maybe one or two more to go. As with every side, we're able to count the cash for transfers received in the immediate accounting period, yet as far as FFP goes we're also allowed to spread the cost of each transfer over the life of the players' contracts.

If we spend £15m this summer on five players on 3-4 year contracts, we could easily show a transfer spend of £4m-£5m in the next set of FFP accounts.

We don't need to sell. There's no financial pressure on us to sell. We've got rid of quite a few decent-high earners off our books this summer, which has freed up a load of space and we've been able to reinvest that in the playing squad.

There's every chance that Maupay ends up with you - it's just a case of offering an acceotable amount. Given that Che Adams went for £15m, I'd expect us to require quite a bit more cash to sell Maupay. In his first season with us getting use to English football he score the same amount as Che Adams had managed in his two previous seasons combined. Last season he scored more, assisted more and finished far more games than Adams did, despite playing a few less than him. He has immaculate fitness - Adams somehow got subbed in more than 1/3 of his games last season, whereas Maupay was rarely subbed whilst also leading the line alone. To add, he was a French U21 international and has had a great footballing education to date - he's got loads of potential.

We're in a totally different position to Birmingham City. They're under financial pressure, and haven't exactly shown themselves to be brilliant negotiators in or out over the last few years. I've got no idea what the fee will be should he join you, but the longer it continues the more it plays into our hands. We've previously sold in the final days of the window to maximise value without replacing, and that may happen again.
 
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Bees? said:
A poster on our forums recently pointed out that we incurred a total loss of ~£5m between '16-'18 and potentially made a profit last year. - not sure how accurate that is, but if it's correct it puts us in a strong position. FFP states that we're not allowed to lose £39m across three rolling seasons.

We took £12m for Mepham and £3m for Bentley this calendar year (yes, I realise accounting periods are different) and so far we've spent ~£9m this summer, with potentially £4m more on Jansson. Maybe one or two more to go. As with every side, we're able to count the cash for transfers received in the immediate accounting period, yet as far as FFP goes we're also allowed to spread the cost of each transfer over the life of the players' contracts.

If we spend £15m this summer on five players on 3-4 year contracts, we could easily show a transfer spend of £4m-£5m in the next set of FFP accounts.

We don't need to sell. There's no financial pressure on us to sell. We've got rid of quite a few decent-high earners off our books this summer, which has freed up a load of space and we've been able to reinvest that in the playing squad.

There's every chance that Maupay ends up with you - it's just a case of offering an acceotable amount. Given that Che Adams went for £15m, I'd expect us to require quite a bit more cash to sell Maupay. In his first season with us getting use to English football he score the same amount as Che Adams had managed in his two previous seasons combined. Last season he scored more, assisted more and finished far more games than Adams did, despite playing a few less than him. He has immaculate fitness - Adams somehow got subbed in more than 1/3 of his games last season, whereas Maupay was rarely subbed whilst also leading the line alone. To add, he was a French U21 international and has had a great footballing education to date - he's got loads of potential.

We're in a totally different position to Birmingham City. They're under financial pressure, and haven't exactly shown themselves to be brilliant negotiators in or out over the last few years. I've got no idea what the fee will be should he join you, but the longer it continues the more it plays into our hands. We've previously sold in the final days of the window to maximise value without replacing, and that may happen again.
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Too long mate, we’re simple northern folk
 
It's been repeated on here a few times. We don't need to or want to sell Maupay. You can hypothesis as much as you like about finances but that is the truth. We are currently spending the £16m for Mepham and the £7m for Woods that we got in January.
 
Bees? said:
A poster on our forums recently pointed out that we incurred a total loss of ~£5m between '16-'18 and potentially made a profit last year. - not sure how accurate that is, but if it's correct it puts us in a strong position. FFP states that we're not allowed to lose £39m across three rolling seasons.

We took £12m for Mepham and £3m for Bentley this calendar year (yes, I realise accounting periods are different) and so far we've spent ~£9m this summer, with potentially £4m more on Jansson. Maybe one or two more to go. As with every side, we're able to count the cash for transfers received in the immediate accounting period, yet as far as FFP goes we're also allowed to spread the cost of each transfer over the life of the players' contracts.

If we spend £15m this summer on five players on 3-4 year contracts, we could easily show a transfer spend of £4m-£5m in the next set of FFP accounts.

We don't need to sell. There's no financial pressure on us to sell. We've got rid of quite a few decent-high earners off our books this summer, which has freed up a load of space and we've been able to reinvest that in the playing squad.

There's every chance that Maupay ends up with you - it's just a case of offering an acceotable amount. Given that Che Adams went for £15m, I'd expect us to require quite a bit more cash to sell Maupay. In his first season with us getting use to English football he score the same amount as Che Adams had managed in his two previous seasons combined. Last season he scored more, assisted more and finished far more games than Adams did, despite playing a few less than him. He has immaculate fitness - Adams somehow got subbed in more than 1/3 of his games last season, whereas Maupay was rarely subbed whilst also leading the line alone. To add, he was a French U21 international and has had a great footballing education to date - he's got loads of potential.

We're in a totally different position to Birmingham City. They're under financial pressure, and haven't exactly shown themselves to be brilliant negotiators in or out over the last few years. I've got no idea what the fee will be should he join you, but the longer it continues the more it plays into our hands. We've previously sold in the final days of the window to maximise value without replacing, and that may happen again.
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Interesting info that and no sarcasm or superiority. Well done.
The funny thing is any sale will probably be for an undisclosed fee.
The ITK people on our board will be saying that the Bees relented and we got him for 16 million.
The ITK people on your board will be saying that the Bees stayed strong and he was sold for 20 million as said from the beginning.
Both sets of fans will claim moral victories, it’s quite silly really, it reminds me of “my dad is bigger than your dad”.
 
nicksufc said:
I don't understand why there are a team of Brentford fans here outlining their financial situation and FFP obligations, shit must've gotten weird over these 109 pages...
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I think one of ours went on their message board so they’ve decided to ‘take our kop’ in a 21st Century digital style.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Interesting info that and no sarcasm or superiority. Well done.
The funny thing is any sale will probably be undisclosed.
The ITK people on our board will be saying that the Bees relented and we got him for 16 million.
The ITK people on your board will be saying that the Bees stayed strong and he was sold for 20 million as said from the beginning.
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Yeah - that's almost certainly going to happen. As long as we're happy with the fee - whatever it amounts to - then that'll be fine with (most of) our fans I imagine.
 
Les said:
It's been repeated on here a few times. We don't need to or want to sell Maupay. You can hypothesis as much as you like about finances but that is the truth. We are currently spending the £16m for Mepham and the £7m for Woods that we got in January.
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We get that, but if the player wants to leave, your hands are tied.
 

Sheffsteel said:
Interesting info that and no sarcasm or superiority. Well done.
The funny thing is any sale will probably be for an undisclosed fee.
The ITK people on our board will be saying that the Bees relented and we got him for 16 million.
The ITK people on your board will be saying that the Bees stayed strong and he was sold for 20 million as said from the beginning.
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This
 
Les said:
It's been repeated on here a few times. We don't need to or want to sell Maupay. You can hypothesis as much as you like about finances but that is the truth. We are currently spending the £16m for Mepham and the £7m for Woods that we got in January.
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Honestly don't understand why you lot have all come here to get triggered at us discussing a potential transfer on our rumours page

Shall we just shut the thread down cos Brentford fans don't want him to go
 
Mesut Özil's Lawnmower said:
500,000 followers this one boys, it's onnnn
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I would not be surprised if its the sell on fee that has caused the hold up and Brentford wanted more money up front to cover the sell on they would have to pay out. Probably ASSE getting involved asking for it maybe.

The original tweet incase anyone thinks that screenshot is made up:

 
Les said:
It's been repeated on here a few times. We don't need to or want to sell Maupay. You can hypothesis as much as you like about finances but that is the truth. We are currently spending the £16m for Mepham and the £7m for Woods that we got in January.
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Man Utd didn't need or want to sell Cristiano Ronaldo. Barcelona didn't need or want to sell Neymar...
 
Bladesman said:
I would not be surprised if its the sell on fee that has caused the hold up and Brentford wanted more money up front to cover the sell on they would have to pay out. Probably ASSE getting involved asking for it maybe.

The original tweet incase anyone thinks that screenshot is made up:

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Au sausage.
 
Bees? said:
Yeah - that's almost certainly going to happen. As long as we're happy with the fee - whatever it amounts to - then that'll be fine with (most of) our fans I imagine.
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You could ask them all. Won’t take long.
 
Bees? said:
A poster on our forums recently pointed out that we incurred a total loss of ~£5m between '16-'18 and potentially made a profit last year. - not sure how accurate that is, but if it's correct it puts us in a strong position. FFP states that we're not allowed to lose £39m across three rolling seasons.

We took £12m for Mepham, ~£6m for Woods and £3m for Bentley this calendar year (yes, I realise accounting periods are different) and so far we've spent ~£9m this summer, with potentially £4m more on Jansson. Maybe one or two more to go. As with every side, we're able to count the cash for transfers received in the immediate accounting period, yet as far as FFP goes we're also allowed to spread the cost of each transfer over the life of the players' contracts.

If we spend £15m this summer on five players on 3-4 year contracts, we could easily show a transfer spend of £4m-£5m in the next set of FFP accounts.

We don't need to sell. There's no financial pressure on us to sell. We've got rid of quite a few decent-high earners off our books this summer, which has freed up a load of space and we've been able to reinvest that in the playing squad.

There's every chance that Maupay ends up with you - it's just a case of offering an acceotable amount. Given that Che Adams went for £15m, I'd expect us to require quite a bit more cash to sell Maupay. In his first season with us getting use to English football he score the same amount as Che Adams had managed in his two previous seasons combined. Last season he scored more, assisted more and finished far more games than Adams did, despite playing a few less than him. He has immaculate fitness - Adams somehow got subbed in more than 1/3 of his games last season, whereas Maupay was rarely subbed whilst also leading the line alone. To add, he was a French U21 international and has had a great footballing education to date - he's got loads of potential.

We're in a totally different position to Birmingham City. They're under financial pressure, and haven't exactly shown themselves to be brilliant negotiators in or out over the last few years. I've got no idea what the fee will be should he join you, but the longer it continues the more it plays into our hands. We've previously sold in the final days of the window to maximise value without replacing, and that may happen again.
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Bees? said:
A poster on our forums recently pointed out that we incurred a total loss of ~£5m between '16-'18 and potentially made a profit last year. - not sure how accurate that is, but if it's correct it puts us in a strong position. FFP states that we're not allowed to lose £39m across three rolling seasons.

We took £12m for Mepham, ~£6m for Woods and £3m for Bentley this calendar year (yes, I realise accounting periods are different) and so far we've spent ~£9m this summer, with potentially £4m more on Jansson. Maybe one or two more to go. As with every side, we're able to count the cash for transfers received in the immediate accounting period, yet as far as FFP goes we're also allowed to spread the cost of each transfer over the life of the players' contracts.

If we spend £15m this summer on five players on 3-4 year contracts, we could easily show a transfer spend of £4m-£5m in the next set of FFP accounts.

We don't need to sell. There's no financial pressure on us to sell. We've got rid of quite a few decent-high earners off our books this summer, which has freed up a load of space and we've been able to reinvest that in the playing squad.

There's every chance that Maupay ends up with you - it's just a case of offering an acceotable amount. Given that Che Adams went for £15m, I'd expect us to require quite a bit more cash to sell Maupay. In his first season with us getting use to English football he score the same amount as Che Adams had managed in his two previous seasons combined. Last season he scored more, assisted more and finished far more games than Adams did, despite playing a few less than him. He has immaculate fitness - Adams somehow got subbed in more than 1/3 of his games last season, whereas Maupay was rarely subbed whilst also leading the line alone. To add, he was a French U21 international and has had a great footballing education to date - he's got loads of potential.

We're in a totally different position to Birmingham City. They're under financial pressure, and haven't exactly shown themselves to be brilliant negotiators in or out over the last few years. I've got no idea what the fee will be should he join you, but the longer it continues the more it plays into our hands. We've previously sold in the final days of the window to maximise value without replacing, and that may happen again.
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Dont know about Maupay but in my opinion Adams isnt good enough at PL level. He has been often lazy in 2015-16 and Adkins left him out of the team for discipline reasons. Wilder wasnt impressed with his attitude during pre-season in summer 2016. He was supposed to move to Birmingham a few weeks earlier than he did but it almost collapsed cos he wanted a different agent to to deal with the transfer. In the end he had to accept that the same agent dealt with the transfer. Maybe he has now grown up since he mocked us being a "little club" after the move. From what I have seen of him in his 4 games against us, I still think he isnt good enough at a higher level.
 
Bees? said:
A poster on our forums recently pointed out that we incurred a total loss of ~£5m between '16-'18 and potentially made a profit last year. - not sure how accurate that is, but if it's correct it puts us in a strong position. FFP states that we're not allowed to lose £39m across three rolling seasons.

We took £12m for Mepham, ~£6m for Woods and £3m for Bentley this calendar year (yes, I realise accounting periods are different) and so far we've spent ~£9m this summer, with potentially £4m more on Jansson. Maybe one or two more to go. As with every side, we're able to count the cash for transfers received in the immediate accounting period, yet as far as FFP goes we're also allowed to spread the cost of each transfer over the life of the players' contracts.

If we spend £15m this summer on five players on 3-4 year contracts, we could easily show a transfer spend of £4m-£5m in the next set of FFP accounts.

We don't need to sell. There's no financial pressure on us to sell. We've got rid of quite a few decent-high earners off our books this summer, which has freed up a load of space and we've been able to reinvest that in the playing squad.

There's every chance that Maupay ends up with you - it's just a case of offering an acceotable amount. Given that Che Adams went for £15m, I'd expect us to require quite a bit more cash to sell Maupay. In his first season with us getting use to English football he score the same amount as Che Adams had managed in his two previous seasons combined. Last season he scored more, assisted more and finished far more games than Adams did, despite playing a few less than him. He has immaculate fitness - Adams somehow got subbed in more than 1/3 of his games last season, whereas Maupay was rarely subbed whilst also leading the line alone. To add, he was a French U21 international and has had a great footballing education to date - he's got loads of potential.

We're in a totally different position to Birmingham City. They're under financial pressure, and haven't exactly shown themselves to be brilliant negotiators in or out over the last few years. I've got no idea what the fee will be should he join you, but the longer it continues the more it plays into our hands. We've previously sold in the final days of the window to maximise value without replacing, and that may happen again.
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Say what you like Blades, but that is a balanced, informed and well made post that refutes the argument that Brentford will need to sell.
Hi accurate it is, I’m not in a position to comment but it certainly makes sense provided there are no surprises in their upcoming accounts.
One thing they do need to be wary about, is with increased fees comes increased wages! And their ability to increase turnover is limited at the moment.
So while they are likely to be making losses in football operations before transfers, the recent sales would probably balance the books.

The other thing to consider, is what exactly are Brentford trying to achieve? Promotion?? Championship contenders every season?? Whatever it is, they can’t keep selling their best players and replacing them every year/eighteen months. At some point, the new arrivals won’t be a success and they are one bad season from a bit of a mess- players not making good fees to balance the books.

In the end though, it makes a change for United to be the team forcing the issue, the one offering what players like Maupay want-Premier league . And for some players, and I’m sure Maupay is one of them, they want to be playing there if they have any ambition for their career.
And United are one of the few Premier league sides prepared to take him on, AND more or less assure him he’s going to play!
 
Bees? said:
A poster on our forums recently pointed out that we incurred a total loss of ~£5m between '16-'18 and potentially made a profit last year. - not sure how accurate that is, but if it's correct it puts us in a strong position. FFP states that we're not allowed to lose £39m across three rolling seasons.

We took £12m for Mepham, ~£6m for Woods and £3m for Bentley this calendar year (yes, I realise accounting periods are different) and so far we've spent ~£9m this summer, with potentially £4m more on Jansson. Maybe one or two more to go. As with every side, we're able to count the cash for transfers received in the immediate accounting period, yet as far as FFP goes we're also allowed to spread the cost of each transfer over the life of the players' contracts.

If we spend £15m this summer on five players on 3-4 year contracts, we could easily show a transfer spend of £4m-£5m in the next set of FFP accounts.

We don't need to sell. There's no financial pressure on us to sell. We've got rid of quite a few decent-high earners off our books this summer, which has freed up a load of space and we've been able to reinvest that in the playing squad.

There's every chance that Maupay ends up with you - it's just a case of offering an acceotable amount. Given that Che Adams went for £15m, I'd expect us to require quite a bit more cash to sell Maupay. In his first season with us getting use to English football he score the same amount as Che Adams had managed in his two previous seasons combined. Last season he scored more, assisted more and finished far more games than Adams did, despite playing a few less than him. He has immaculate fitness - Adams somehow got subbed in more than 1/3 of his games last season, whereas Maupay was rarely subbed whilst also leading the line alone. To add, he was a French U21 international and has had a great footballing education to date - he's got loads of potential.

We're in a totally different position to Birmingham City. They're under financial pressure, and haven't exactly shown themselves to be brilliant negotiators in or out over the last few years. I've got no idea what the fee will be should he join you, but the longer it continues the more it plays into our hands. We've previously sold in the final days of the window to maximise value without replacing, and that may happen again.
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Did your hear that pop .............that’s you disappearing up your own arse,either get this deal sorted or move on then these ‘Bees’ can shoot off home.
 

flashinblade1889 said:
Did your hear that pop .............that’s you disappearing up your own arse,either get this deal sorted or move on then these ‘Bees’ can shoot off home.
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How do you know Wilder wants Maupay ? Brentford say there hasn't been a bid for him ( which I suspect means they want a club to make a £20 million bid and start an auction). It is only social media and tabloid speculation that is fuelling this and there has been no indication from United that Maupay is a player they want.

As normal, CW is keeping transfers private . A 110 page thread for a player where we have no confirmed interest is quite astounding( a bit like to Sam Morsy thread was)
 
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