Pitch invasion - club say to stay off pitch

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bartman said:
OK..a closed question

Do you agree with the suggestion that fans invade the pitch on Saturday ?
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Aye if the mood allows for it.

To answer some of you points:
Why would any fan want to run on the pitch when we haven't won anything ? ( we won't be promoted on Saturday) .
We will be all but promoted, enough to celebrate properly.

What would you be hoping to achieve by running on the pitch ?
To celebrate with the players. What do they hope to achieve by running into the fans when they score? Presumably, they want to celebrate in the best way, which isn't clapping at us from a distance.

What if the players and club specifically request that fans don't run on the pitch...would you respect their wishes ?
We will never know this, the club will say on behalf of the management and players that they don't want it to happen.
If Wilder and the players genuinely didn't want it, I would respect their wishes.

If running on the pitch meant that the players couldn't come out and do a lap of honour ( not celebration and we can't be promoted on Saturday), is it right to deny the opportunity to the £25k + fans staying in their seats to thank the team for their efforts ?
One of my questions was to ask if this had ever happened. I recall it being threatened by the club, but never followed through. If it was the case, however, it would not be fair to deny the majority the lap of honour.

Do you agree that any fan arrested for running on the pitch should be given a ban ? ( especially if the club specifically requests fans to stay in their seats/ in the stands )
Generally yes. In the event of a mass pitch invasion, taking place after the final whistle, in a rare event of great success? No.
 

Can't mathematically promoted and still in the race for the title. I'd leave it personally.

Pitch invasions are occasionally spontaneous outpourings of emotion that can't be contained (see Northampton and both Sixfields and Bramall Lane simultaneously). More often than not though they are contrived and cringeworthy....remember once seeing a kid and his dad run on with a football they had brought in to take a penalty in front of the kop.

As an aside I do find it amusing when a handful run on and start lapping up the cheers and applause til they realise they are being roundly booed.
 
I just don't want a Felipe Massa F1 world championship situation. Celebrate when it's actually done, not when it's as good as done.
 
Can one of the "not mathematically certain" brigade point out another team that's had a six point and twelve or thirteen goal advantage overturned with one game left (rivals with two)?

You can also include when it was two points for a win and call it a four point advantage
 
AWetFlannel said:
Aye if the mood allows for it.

To answer some of you points:
Why would any fan want to run on the pitch when we haven't won anything ? ( we won't be promoted on Saturday) .
We will be all but promoted, enough to celebrate properly.

What would you be hoping to achieve by running on the pitch ?
To celebrate with the players. What do they hope to achieve by running into the fans when they score? Presumably, they want to celebrate in the best way, which isn't clapping at us from a distance.

What if the players and club specifically request that fans don't run on the pitch...would you respect their wishes ?
We will never know this, the club will say on behalf of the management and players that they don't want it to happen.
If Wilder and the players genuinely didn't want it, I would respect their wishes.

If running on the pitch meant that the players couldn't come out and do a lap of honour ( not celebration and we can't be promoted on Saturday), is it right to deny the opportunity to the £25k + fans staying in their seats to thank the team for their efforts ?
One of my questions was to ask if this had ever happened. I recall it being threatened by the club, but never followed through. If it was the case, however, it would not be fair to deny the majority the lap of honour.

Do you agree that any fan arrested for running on the pitch should be given a ban ? ( especially if the club specifically requests fans to stay in their seats/ in the stands )
Generally yes. In the event of a mass pitch invasion, taking place after the final whistle, in a rare event of great success? No.
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Can I be allowed a supplementary question? Do you agree that, in the interests of safety, fans should be excluded from the pitch except in cases of genuine emergency?
 
HodgysBrokenThumb said:
Can I be allowed a supplementary question? Do you agree that, in the interests of safety, fans should be excluded from the pitch except in cases of genuine emergency?
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If I can jump in and answer that, there are many reasons that fans are allowed onto the pitch when there is no genuine emergency. For example, to receive a prize or presentation, take part in a half time penalty shoot out. There'll be about 20k on the pitch in June when Rod Stewart plays, and there were plenty on the pitch for Brook-Spence.
 
HodgysBrokenThumb said:
Can I be allowed a supplementary question? Do you agree that, in the interests of safety, fans should be excluded from the pitch except in cases of genuine emergency?
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Not sure it is unsafe tbh, can't remember any incidents in which it has happened and caused injury. I understand the club having the rule against it, similar to rules against 'bad language'. Though if they followed through with that rule we'd have no fans left.
 
Dkc said:
If I can jump in and answer that, there are many reasons that fans are allowed onto the pitch when there is no genuine emergency. For example, to receive a prize or presentation, take part in a half time penalty shoot out. There'll be about 20k on the pitch in June when Rod Stewart plays, and there were plenty on the pitch for Brook-Spence.
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I was trying to keep the question brief. I take it for granted that players and officials are allowed on the pitch; individuals may be invited onto the pitch at specific times; and for a concert, the pitch becomes a seating area, and the stage would be the no-go area. Don't go on stage to kiss Rod Stewart, and do not enter a boxing-ring during a bout. Otherwise, the crowd should go onto the pitch only in emergency, and the authorities need to be confident that people going onto the pitch are going there for that reason. Because we were used to pitch invasions, fences were put up to prevent people going onto the pitch, and the police, stewards etc. at Hillsborough interpreted people trying to get onto the pitch as a threat. A pitch invasion is potentially dangerous; and is very different from getting the players off the pitch, and inviting the crowd onto the pitch to cheer the players who have gone up into the stand.
 
AWetFlannel said:
Not sure it is unsafe tbh, can't remember any incidents in which it has happened and caused injury. I understand the club having the rule against it, similar to rules against 'bad language'. Though if they followed through with that rule we'd have no fans left.
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I have just posted my thoughts in post 190. The problems are long-term rather than immediate. There was a chain of bad behaviour and wrong responses which led to 96 deaths at Hillsborough. With thousands of people in a confined area, you have to have an area of safety for an emergency (fire, crush, terrorism, helicopter crash - who knows what can happen? Few people foresaw the Hillsborough disaster). Creating a situation of conflict, trying to prevent people coming onto the pitch can have unintended consequences. Wait to be invited, or stay in the stands and have a party with 30000 fellow Blades.
 
I can not believe the lack of support for a pitch invasion. These do not happen every week and there is a real feeling of something big has just happened when it does. These are moments in a fans life that doesn’t come along to often and to go on the pitch is a mixture of privilege and pride.

I won’t be the first on, but in my opinion they are good to see and if it happens I’ll be on there with my lad for a memory him or I will never forget. UTB
 
We need a vote on this.

If the consensus is that we invade, then so be it - all S2 4SU members should feel obligated to do so.

If the consensus is against, then we refrain from being selfish wankers and allow the players an undisrupted lap of honour.
 

Johnnyblade said:
What are your thoughts on a pitch invasion if we win on sat against Ipswich?
Technically we will still need a point but realistically we’ll be up with the massive goal difference,Leeds might also slip up against Villa on Sunday.
Live on sky it’s going to be an amazing atmosphere if we win!!
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my thoughts?
are you stark staring mad?
 
AWetFlannel said:
Not sure it is unsafe tbh, can't remember any incidents in which it has happened and caused injury. I understand the club having the rule against it, similar to rules against 'bad language'. Though if they followed through with that rule we'd have no fans left.
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Not during a pitch invasion so feel free to disagree with the point but remember when Tony Adams hoisted Steve Morrow up on his shoulders in the ‘93 league cup final against the pigs? Fell off did his shoulder and missed the rest of the season (in fact I don’t think he played for Arsenal again?).

Not saying players need wrapping in cotton wool......but.......with a title decider 6 days away players need wrapping in cotton wool.:)
 
Apologies if already mentioned but did you know brum fans were in court today for going on pitch the other day at Rotherham?

Probably get heavy fine and banned. I used to love going on but it isn't worth the aggro.
GS will probably announce At the end of the match, Chris Wilder asks you not to encroach onto the field of play.
 
You can’t escape the fact that we will not have a P next to our name on the league table no matter how much you want to “invade” the pitch. Personally I would like to stand and applaud the heroes in red and white and all the staff. I don’t want to watch a bunch of self centred arseholes run around like morons at the end of our final home game, of what has been a fantastic season.

I know that won’t stop people going on the pitch but that’s just my point isn’t it? It has to be all about them. Selfish twats.
 
Someone on social media made a good point in that for certain players it will be their last game for us at Bramall Lane whether we are promoted or not. Should we not let them do the lap of honour to receive the appreciation and thanks for their efforts this season, thinking here about the loan players who will be going back to their clubs in a few weeks none more so than Deano. Let them do a lap of honour then if the fans are wanted on the pitch I would imagine the club would invite them on when the players are safely in the stand behind the dug outs.
 
Maidenhead said:
This thread has shown that there appears to be a very small minority in support of a pitch invasion.

Unfortunately they are the selfish knobheads that won't think twice about the implications of their actions on anyone else or anything else, and it is likely to happen.

Their social media accounts will be awash with pictures of their anti social and illegal behaviour and their equally knobhead mates will think WOW, how good is that, and the "likes" will fly in.

They will go to bed that evening absolutely made up with the 200 or so "likes" they've had and with not a second thought for the 29,000 other people who's day has been spoiled.

It's the modern way.

We live in a society that is all about self gratification and self promotion.

Emotionally these intellectual and social inadequates can't cope without the approbation of their mates, hence the disgraceful concourse behaviour, illegal pyrotechnics, and general flouting of the rules of society taking place at football grounds all around the country, in order to boost their ever failing self esteem.
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Fuckin Thatcher
 
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MMBUTB said:
I can not believe the lack of support for a pitch invasion. These do not happen every week and there is a real feeling of something big has just happened when it does. These are moments in a fans life that doesn’t come along to often and to go on the pitch is a mixture of privilege and pride.

I won’t be the first on, but in my opinion they are good to see and if it happens I’ll be on there with my lad for a memory him or I will never forget. UTB
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Why though? If we win on Saturday, WE ARE NOT PROMOTED. Even if we win 10-0, it makes no difference. We are not promoted if we win on Saturday. So why run on the pitch to celebrate beating bottom of the league, who are already relegated?
You are potentially running on the pitch to celebrate finishing 3rd place, and the Play-Offs to come.
 

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