Pitch invasion - club say to stay off pitch

[Flatulent_Bob]

I've posted a couple of recent pitch invasion photos above. Could you find me an example of a club having points deducted following one of these post game, celebratory occasions?

Nope, but that’s not relevant.
If you do it you could injure our players - but you don’t care.
The club don’t want you to do this - but you don’t care.
The players don’t look comfortable when you do this and have a game to play next week - but you don’t care.
The fans don’t want you to do this - but you don’t care.
It encourages opposition fans to follow suit, antagonising them unnecessarily - but you don’t care.
You could damage the pitch causing replacement cost and wasted expense - but you don’t care.
You would be breaking rules which would give the authorities reason and every excuse to take action against the club including points deduction - but you don’t care.

And to top it all off, you take no responsibility for your actions and believe you shouldn’t be punished for breaking rules set out.

I think our positions are clear here, you do what you want, but at least own the consequences and selfishness of your actions.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Only our fans on the pitch. Not a grudge game. If we win, Ipswich players safe. Would just be a celebration.

Imagine the game is 1-0 to Ipswich for a long time, and the goalie behaves like Angus Gunn did for Norwich last season, really winding people up. United score 2 late goals and win, and the fans invade the pitch. Can you be sure no-one would have a go at him?

 

[Snowman]

Cardiff last season:

So fucking what? It's simply not worth the risk.

 

[Ricky]

If you do it you could injure our players - but you don’t care.
The club don’t want you to do this - but you don’t care.
The players don’t look comfortable when you do this and have a game to play next week - but you don’t care.
The fans don’t want you to do this - but you don’t care.
It encourages opposition fans to follow suit, antagonising them unnecessarily - but you don’t care.
You could damage the pitch causing replacement cost and wasted expense - but you don’t care.
You would be breaking rules which would give the authorities reason and every excuse to take action against the club including points deduction - but you don’t care.

And to top it all off, you take no responsibility for your actions and believe you shouldn’t be punished for breaking rules set out.

That's an extremely long winded way of saying 'no'.

See what the fans want on Saturday, eh. If we win.

 

[blademark]

Why not save it all for the civic reception?

 

[silverfox]

I look at the circumstances as of today(23/04/19) and say it is morally wrong to enter the playing field at any time. However, as a grown man that’s a father of a 10 year old child who wants to provide him with the best possible childhood memories...this would be up there for him. I want him to turn round and say in 20 years time that ‘dad, I remember when we got promoted to the premier league and how great that Ipswich game was’.
Believe me it’s not something I would do now. It may be stupid and unlawful to invade the pitch should be win Saturday...but at the same time in comparison to the vast majority of teams who have been promoted to the top flight recently, it would be stupid if we didn’t invade the pitch.
All I’m saying is, I don’t know what will happen. Heart says do it, head says no. It’s the spur of the moment and the feeling of invading a pitch after a 13 year absence of the top flight would be inevitable. We’ll see.

And what if your child gets injured or caught up in fighting with the away fans?

And you encourage him in a criminal offence?

Just asking.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

That's an extremely long winded way of saying 'no'.

See what the fans want on Saturday, eh. If we win.

You should have read the first word of my reply as it’s right there for you. But yeah let’s see how many go on and how many stay off, then we’ll have an answer to how many selfish cunts we have.
Either way we’ll know that you’ll do what you want regardless of anyone else or the risk to the club.
But if you want to retain any credibility, I wouldn’t give it the bigger blade bollocks again or doing stuff for the benefit of the club because it’ll sound incredibly hollow and frankly laughable. You do what you want, I just hope the club follow suit and do the same.

 

[Blade56]

It cost that much.....

More than that, they secretly substituted the meat in pies from the detritus from local vets to improve the catering profit margin to make up the shortfall. The Crab industries whistle blower (don't worry I won't name you BV)

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

I look at the circumstances as of today(23/04/19) and say it is morally wrong to enter the playing field at any time. However, as a grown man that’s a father of a 10 year old child who wants to provide him with the best possible childhood memories...this would be up there for him. I want him to turn round and say in 20 years time that ‘dad, I remember when we got promoted to the premier league and how great that Ipswich game was’.
Believe me it’s not something I would do now. It may be stupid and unlawful to invade the pitch should be win Saturday...but at the same time in comparison to the vast majority of teams who have been promoted to the top flight recently, it would be stupid if we didn’t invade the pitch.
All I’m saying is, I don’t know what will happen. Heart says do it, head says no. It’s the spur of the moment and the feeling of invading a pitch after a 13 year absence of the top flight would be inevitable. We’ll see.

You could explain to him how 96 people came to die at Hillsborough, because of fences put up to prevent people going onto the pitch, when they could have been safe if access to the pitch in emergencies had been possible; and make him understand that it is good to learn from the mistakes of the past. Some young people never got the chance to speak to their parents 20 years later.

 

[Ricky]

You should have read the first word of my reply as it’s right there for you. But yeah let’s see how many go on and how many stay off, then we’ll have an answer to how many selfish cunts we have.
Either way we’ll know that you’ll do what you want regardless of anyone else or the risk to the club.
But if you want to retain any credibility, I wouldn’t give it the bigger blade bollocks again or doing stuff for the benefit of the club because it’ll sound incredibly hollow and frankly laughable. You do what you want.

Well whatever happens, you just hold onto your flask.

If there was a genuine reason to avoid a post match pitch invasion, I'd be against it. But realistically, there isn't. Health and safety enthusiasts like you won't convince me otherwise.

 

[silverfox]

You should have read the first word of my reply as it’s right there for you. But yeah let’s see how many go on and how many stay off, then we’ll have an answer to how many selfish cunts we have.
Either way we’ll know that you’ll do what you want regardless of anyone else or the risk to the club.
But if you want to retain any credibility, I wouldn’t give it the bigger blade bollocks again or doing stuff for the benefit of the club because it’ll sound incredibly hollow and frankly laughable. You do what you want.

People will indeed do what they want....after all my years watching I just wanted to enjoy a moment...if we do win..without the fear that it will all be snatched away because of the need for people to go on the pitch.

Still can't work it out because the players will do a lap of honour which can be watched by all....the old buggers will have gone home if they have to wait 45 minutes!

 

[silverfox]

Well whatever happens, you just hold onto your flask.

If there was a genuine reason to avoid a post match pitch invasion, I'd be against it. But realistically, there isn't. Health and safety enthusiasts like you won't convince me otherwise.

Genuine reason = criminal offence?

So which are the ones we can ignore?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Well whatever happens, you just hold onto your flask.

If there was a genuine reason to avoid a post match pitch invasion, I'd be against it. But realistically, there isn't. Health and safety enthusiasts like you won't convince me otherwise.

Yeah what a twat I must be, having an desire to keep fans and players healthy and safe while attending a football match.
There isn’t a reason that you would accept as genuine, and that’s because nothing is as important to you as doing what you want hence selfish.
The fact is there isn’t a genuine reason for you to do it either, but that doesn’t hit your radar, hence my other descriptive term for those that can’t stick to the rules.

 

[Ricky]

Genuine reason = criminal offence?

So which are the ones we can ignore?

The prisons are bursting with football fans who've gone on the pitch in their thousands to celebrate promotions aren't they!

Yeah what a twat I must be, having an desire to keep fans and players healthy and safe while attending a football match.
There isn’t a reason that you would accept as genuine, and that’s because nothing is as important to you as doing what you want.
The fact is there isn’t a genuine reason for you to do it either, but that doesn’t hit your radar.

There's nothing as selfish as doing something which has no consequences! What dangerous scum we are! That day at Northampton was forever tarnished wasn't it?

The reason for most people I'd say is to mark the occasion and try to thank/congratulate the players. We clap them off the pitch every week - which is all the fabled 'lap of honour' is.

 

[CharlotteBlade]

Fellow XX'er here...by the time I got down there they'd be turning the lights off and packing up ready for summer!

also XX'er here !

I think after the game it will be unstoppable. Hopefully not during the game, but probably some one will especially considering i cant remember who we was playing when that div who looked like a ball boy ran on for no reason whatsoever - that was so odd.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

There's nothing as selfish as doing something which has no consequences! What dangerous scum we are! That day at Northampton was forever tarnished wasn't it?

The reason for most people I'd say is to mark the occasion and try to thank/congratulate the players. We clap them off the pitch every week - which is all the fabled 'lap of honour' is.

Your first sentence doesn’t make sense, so I can’t answer it. There are however several negative consequences of going on the pitch that you have been made aware of, which you’re ignoring because you want to do what you want above all other things.
If the players wanted this, why don’t they seem to be comfortable and why don’t the club want you to do it? Again this is what you want to do above everything else, totally ignoring the wishes of the players, club and fans.
Let’s just leave this with the fact the club and authorities are fully entitled to take any action against those they go on the pitch and those that do this are wholly responsible for their actions and should accept any punishment given to them or the club.

 

[metalblade]

Grown men acting like a five year old kids. Jesus Wept. Just what is the point of acting like a bell end and running on the pitch, what you going to due when you get on the pitch? Pitch invasions are what small clubs do after a giant killing in the FA cup not when you actually haven't won owt yet, it's embarrassing and cringe worthy, phuckin grow up!

 

[silverfox]

The prisons are bursting with football fans who've gone on the pitch in their thousands to celebrate promotions aren't they!

So many reasons why you should not be on the pitch including legal and the potential ban from the club.

You don't care is what you are saying.

So I might as well give up.

You have fun on the pitch and your so important sefies!

 

[Ricky]

There are several negative consequences that you have been made aware of, which you’re ignoring because you want to do what you want, above all other things.
If the players wanted this, why don’t they seem to be comfortable and the club don’t want you to do it? Again this is what you want to do above everything else, totally ignoring the wishes of the players, club and fans.

Maybe I'd pay attention if you had examples and evidence of consequences.

Don't waste energy on it though. Save it for trying to get people thrown out for standing up or something.

You have fun on the pitch and your so important sefies!

Don't put me in the 'selfie cunt' bracket!

 

[Bartleby]

The reason for most people I'd say is to mark the occasion and try to thank/congratulate the players.

Is it fuck. It's to say look at me aren't I fucking great.

 

[silverfox]

Maybe I'd pay attention if you had examples and evidence of consequences.

Don't waste energy on it though. Save it for trying to get people thrown out for standing up or something.




Don't put me in the 'selfie cunt' bracket!

You've done that yourself!

 

[hidesbehindapseudonym]

Only total cunts run on the pitch.

 

[Ricky]

You've done that yourself!

Doesn't quite make sense, but go on then, why not...

 

[Gimli]

I look at the circumstances as of today(23/04/19) and say it is morally wrong to enter the playing field at any time. However, as a grown man that’s a father of a 10 year old child who wants to provide him with the best possible childhood memories...this would be up there for him. I want him to turn round and say in 20 years time that ‘dad, I remember when we got promoted to the premier league and how great that Ipswich game was’.
Believe me it’s not something I would do now. It may be stupid and unlawful to invade the pitch should be win Saturday...but at the same time in comparison to the vast majority of teams who have been promoted to the top flight recently, it would be stupid if we didn’t invade the pitch.
All I’m saying is, I don’t know what will happen. Heart says do it, head says no. It’s the spur of the moment and the feeling of invading a pitch after a 13 year absence of the top flight would be inevitable. We’ll see.

IF we win on Saturday, how would running onto the pitch make the experience any better?

I hate pitch invasions for 2 main reasons.

1 - it’s full of people attention seeking and is essentially a distraction from the people we actually want to see - the players, who deserve our applause (regardless of the result on Saturday)

2 - that pitch is hallowed ground, it does not deserved to be blemished by Reebok Dan and Stone Island Kev traipsing across it, we the fans have not earnt the right to go onto that pitch.

 

[Punk Blade]

Ricky are there any other laws you don’t agree with that you plan to break on Saturday, or just this one?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Maybe I'd pay attention if you had examples and evidence of consequences.

Don't waste energy on it though. Save it for trying to get people thrown out for standing up or something.

Oh dear, are you really falling back into strawmen?
You’ve clearly lost this argument and you’re making up something entirely different because you think you reclaim some lost credibility. I think it’s becoming clear why the club didn’t take your initiatives seriously though given your views and debating abilities if that’s where you now are.

You’ve been given the possible consequences as stated by the club and the organisations which run the game. Both myself and others have highlighted them to you multiple times, but you are faining interest. You don’t care, you just want to do what you want regardless of everything else.
I get the feeling you’re the type of guy who has to have the last word, even if you’ve been repeatedly answered so I’ll withdrawal from the discussion as I think everything has been covered and other forum members can come to their own conclusions.
Please stay off the pitch, in line with the wishes of the players and the club. Over to you.

 

[Foxy]

I was on the pitch at Northampton, as something had happened.

I'd hazard a guess, I might be on the pitch at Stoke, if something happens as looks likely (though from previous experience, the locals might not be as accommodating as the Northampton fans were).

At best this Saturday, all we can do is increase the likelihood, so will I be on the Desso? no, I don't wish to peak early.

 

[Ricky]

Hull:

Brighton:

Middlesbrough:

Burnley:

Fucking criminals.

 

[SB_90]

It would be bizarre if we didn't.

just because others do it. doesnt make it right

lets not forget that a few weeks ago that idiot that invaded the pitch. that we all laughed at & ridiculed during the game & after. but now hes a hero i dont get it. but like in anything minority spoils it for majoirty

 

[Foxy]

Hull:

Brighton:

Middlesbrough:

Burnley:

Fucking criminals.

Far from it for me to jump to conclusions, but in each of these cases had anything actually been confirmed?