Wilder Sky Interview

[Bladesman]

5 of the top 6 have spent £37m+. Spending big does not guarantee success but it is extremely difficult to be successful without spending big.

Our budget is pathetic. Thanks Kev.

Game changing.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

£6m for a player that will be of absolutely no use when they go up?

Spending cash for the sake of it. Started on the bench, looked like the daft kid you made sub when you were short and only brought on when someone lapsed into a coma.

I see you point but Madine isn't the best example.

He was the best player on the pitch when we played Bolton at home.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I don't get this theory that just because other clubs have wasted money we will. Are you implying Wilder will 'spunk millions on crap forwards despite his record in the transfer market ?

Please point me to where I even suggested that?

The point is that however much money you have it has to be spent wisely.

I really am at a loss to see where you think the fact I'm critisising Wilder comes from.

 

[snootyfenooty]

£6m for a player that will be of absolutely no use when they go up?

Spending cash for the sake of it. Started on the bench, looked like the daft kid you made sub when you were short and only brought on when someone lapsed into a coma.

I see you point but Madine isn't the best example.

I've come to the conclusion that the only reason Warnock bought Madine was that he could stick him in front of H Block for most of the first half "warming up" just so he could wind the fans up.

 

[Sean Thornton]

He was the best player on the pitch when we played Bolton at home.

He had a good game. Let's not get carried away.

 

[GrayBlade]

Proud of the lads tonight, as good as I’ve seen us in months.

Excellent performances throughout the team but for the most important bit which is taking our chances. We are SO close but the fact is that we’ve not got enough players in the squad (DMF) who expect to score goals on a regular basis. Put Brown circa 2003 and Beattie in this team and we’d be pushing for auto.

Let’s not let the disappointment of their late goal cloud the fact that we’ve got a team and a manger to be proud of and today’s not been a bad day at all for us overall. Wherever we are next season we’ll need some more fire power, but that performance was up there with the first few months of the season, and we might just be coming into our best when it really matters especially if Clarke’s goal gives him a boost. I thought he was excellent tonight. UTB.

 

[spongebobblade]

He was the best player on the pitch when we played Bolton at home.

Clarke was the best striker on the pitch at Swillsboro and has outscored Madine this season. Do you think he’s worth 6m? You can’t judge a player on 1 game

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Wilder was quoted as saying the JTW budget was set back in October.

We were top at the time.

What short-sighted bastard decided that we’d spend fuck all instead of trying to actually make a concerted effort to maintain our position? Or, look towards next season and tell Wilder to get them in now ready for next season if we don’t do it this season?

Fuckin criminal it is.

 

[Sean Thornton]

5 of the top 6 have spent £37m+. Spending big does not guarantee success but it is extremely difficult to be successful without spending big.

Our budget is pathetic. Thanks Kev.

Do a breakdown of where their income comes from compared to ours. Then explain to us the differences in the budgets. You comment on it enough, I presume you know what you're talking about.....

 

[Guesty]

As sickening as tonight's injustice was, both us and Millwall are doing fantastically well. The teams that have spent big and spectacularly under-achieved will be looking for new managers sooner rather than later.

I'm not sure tonight was an injustice. We didn't take our chances, that's our fault, not anybody else's.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

He had a good game. Let's not get carried away.

Clarke was the best striker on the pitch at Swillsboro and has outscored Madine this season. Do you think he’s worth 6m? You can’t judge a player on 1 game

I wasn't, I was countering ST's assertion that based upon tonight Madine is crap. If ST can claim that Madine is shit based solely upon tonight, then I can claim otherwise based upon his performance against us for Bolton. Both positions carry equal weight. It's worth noting that he was so shit against us, he ended CCV's Utd career.

 

[grafikhaus]

I'm not sure tonight was an injustice. We didn't take our chances, that's our fault, not anybody else's.

Yes, we had some 'Big Chances' tonight as we did at Brentford, but no team converts every chance - I'd say one in three or four is about average. At least we're creating the chances now, the rest will follow.

 

[Punk Blade]

Gary Madine cost £6M

That’s the market now we need to get our heads around

And John Fleck cost £0.

We need to spend smart, not big.

 

[Guesty]

Yes, we had some 'Big Chances' tonight as we did at Brentford, but no team converts every chance - I'd say one in three or four is about average. At least we're creating the chances now, the rest will follow.

I agree, I'm not saying it was a bad performance at all, but I wouldn't say 'injustice' either because it's our fault we didn't win.

Unfortunately at this stage only points matter and we aren't picking enough up.

 

[spongebobblade]

I wasn't, I was countering ST's assertion that based upon tonight Madine is crap. If ST can claim that Madine is shit based solely upon tonight, then I can claim otherwise based upon his performance against us for Bolton. Both positions carry equal weight. It's worth noting that he was so shit against us, he ended CCV's Utd career.

I think Sean’s assertion was more a point that not now or in a million years will Madine ever be worth 6m. Now that’s how to spunk money

 

[Sean Thornton]

I wasn't, I was countering ST's assertion that based upon tonight Madine is crap. If ST can claim that Madine is shit based solely upon tonight, then I can claim otherwise based upon his performance against us for Bolton. Both positions carry equal weight. It's worth noting that he was so shit against us, he ended CCV's Utd career.

I queried the fee value rather than saying he was "shit" in general. Although he was tonight.

Thanks for pretending otherwise though.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Yes, we had some 'Big Chances' tonight as we did at Brentford, but no team converts every chance - I'd say one in three or four is about average. At least we're creating the chances now, the rest will follow.

With Brentford & Cardiff, we're about 1 in 6 to 1 in 8.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

I queried the fee value rather than saying he was "shit" in general. Although he was tonight.

Thanks for pretending otherwise though.

No worries.

 

[grafikhaus]

I don't get this theory that just because other clubs have wasted money we will. Are you implying Wilder will 'spunk millions on crap forwards despite his record in the transfer market ?

But when other clubs spent big doesn't mean they 'wasted/spunked money'. Based on their past records, players will have been assessed and their possible value to a team gauged. Not every signing will pan out. I said at the time that Chris Wood would be worth every penny when Burnley bought him from Leeds for £15m. For every Matej Vydra (Derby), currently the Championship top scorer with 18 and bought for £8m, there's a Jordan Rhodes. Britt Assombalonga (Middlesbrough) cost £15m and has scored less than Leon Clarke.

Also it's not just the total value of transfers other clubs have spent. Big transfer fees come with big wage bills. What would that do to our dressing room spirit?

 

[Sean Thornton]

No worries.

I'm not worried. Being misquoted is a forum hazard.

 

[EmleyMoorBlade]

Proud of the lads tonight, as good as I’ve seen us in months.

Excellent performances throughout the team but for the most important bit which is taking our chances. We are SO close but the fact is that we’ve not got enough players in the squad (DMF) who expect to score goals on a regular basis. Put Brown circa 2003 and Beattie in this team and we’d be pushing for auto.

Let’s not let the disappointment of their late goal cloud the fact that we’ve got a team and a manger to be proud of and today’s not been a bad day at all for us overall. Wherever we are next season we’ll need some more fire power, but that performance was up there with the first few months of the season, and we might just be coming into our best when it really matters especially if Clarke’s goal gives him a boost. I thought he was excellent tonight. UTB.

Totally agree we were by far the better footballing team tonight and with a bit of luck would have had three points.

Play like that at Barnsley on Saturday and we should come away with a win and will be right back in the mix. No pressure on us unlike some of the other money spunkers

UTB

 

[blade67]

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So has spending a fortune benefitted Sunderland? Norwich? Wednesday? Hull? Leeds etc? I ask the question because there will be calls for new striker(s) after tonight. Reality checks> Leon Clarke is the third-highest scorer in The Championship - ahead of Albert Adomah and Ryan Sessegnon.

Donaldson cost £50k but has scored more than Jordan Rhodes.

Cardiff's sub. tonight (Madine) cost £6m - more than United's entire squad.

As sickening as tonight's injustice was, both us and Millwall are doing fantastically well. The teams that have spent big and spectacularly under-achieved will be looking for new managers sooner rather than later.

interesting how different posters see different things in these facts.

What I see is that 5 of the 7 biggest spenders are in the top 6 and that tells me that you either need to spend big or have a really good manager in this league.

Warnock, despite all his flaws knows how to get out of this league. Wilder is showing that he's done a great job and needs a bit of help.

 

[zablade]

Clarke was the best striker on the pitch at Swillsboro and has outscored Madine this season. Do you think he’s worth 6m? You can’t judge a player on 1 game

If Clarke was 27 or 28 then in today’s market he would be Worth around £6m.

 

[ucandomagic]

Just 6 games left and it’s still in our hands - win them all and nobody can stop us getting in the playoffs - and play like tonight and they are all winnable.

Beating Fulham and Villa after that will be a little more challenging - but we’ll face that when we get there.

Who wouldn’t have settled on it still being in our hands with 6 games to go at the start of the season. I will leave it to Tufty to be disappointed and just thank my lucky stars I’m not going to Fleetwood and Port Vale any more - not to mention fucking Walsall.

Magic is Relative not Absolute

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

I'd love a 12" cock & a new Ferrari

Can’t do much about the Italian motor but can help you with the first request. Wots your address again?

 

[Houston_Blade]

The problem in January was that we already had one of the top scorers in the squad and having lost Coutts we were more bothered about midfield signings. The loss of form of 2 strikers and a loan signing of a Man Utd reserve haven’t helped. If Leon and Billy would have doubled their pre Christmas tally and Donaldson would have chipped in with 10 it wouldn’t have been so bad. Hindsight eh.

 

[Revolution]

The problem in January was that we already had one of the top scorers in the squad and having lost Coutts we were more bothered about midfield signings. The loss of form of 2 strikers and a loan signing of a Man Utd reserve haven’t helped. If Leon and Billy would have doubled their pre Christmas tally and Donaldson would have chipped in with 10 it wouldn’t have been so bad. Hindsight eh.

We made 4 signings in the window. One started last night and has done reasonably well. One came on as we were eating up time (ha!) and has not done well. A third started well but showed little since, and is often injured. The fourth, who I had the highest hopes for, has hardly featured and done little when he has played.

It's easy to play captain hindsight but thus far we haven't done very well out of the transfer window.

 

[Woodwardfan]

We made 4 signings in the window. One started last night and has done reasonably well. One came on as we were eating up time (ha!) and has not done well. A third started well but showed little since, and is often injured. The fourth, who I had the highest hopes for, has hardly featured and done little when he has played.

It's easy to play captain hindsight but thus far we haven't done very well out of the transfer window.

We also signed up Brooks on a new contract and his illness has been a major blow.

We could have taken £10m perhaps and spent it on a Jordan Rhodes-type proven striker just to ensure we had enough for that final push, just like Wednesday did last season.

With young lads you get inconsistency but we got illness as well. At least proven strikers like Rhodes are consistent. Mitrovic was a big gamble at a loan and wages cost of about £2m or thereabouts. He was absolutely hopeless for the Toon. Confidence, environment, circumstance, rapport all play a part and momentum plays along positively just as much as poor goal tallies eat away at hearts and minds. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Donaldson started well and got an injury. Sharp and Clarke both went off at the same time, not for lack of effort though. Wilson has not clicked.

Wilder did the right things in January and the new midfielders are proving their worth and will be ready to go next season.

We have Semple and Leonard and Stevens can play at the back but will need another defender. Other than that we just need a striker or two. Unless we go up and how would we cope with that?

 

[Woodwardfan]

Wilder looked and talked like us all last night.

So much given and so little reward. Absolutely gutted with a point we would have taken pre-game.

Sense of injustice - again.

 

[FriethBlade]

Back to the original point. Assuming we don't go up and Wilder is given 6m to spend on one striker who would it be?

This is where is gets very tricky as I've got little idea ! Do we go for a Marriott type who is tearing it up in a lower division or do we try and turn someone's career around who is stagnating or not getting the games at a higher level club ? It definitely wouldn't be Nadine though !