Cost of admission 2017/18

[coolhandluke]

Assuming we are promoted and the costs of admission for next season haven't yet been finalised , how about a real statement of intent from Mr McCabe ?

What about a price freeze for next Season ? What about some game leading deals for those renewing ?

With the pricing currently on offer from across the city , how about deals to attract the " floating supporter " in the city ? *

Come on KM , you've a stated aim of us championing fairness in football , how about starting with our own fans ?

* Our highest priced season ticket is currently 441 . Across the city the cheapest is 415 . Our highest single game admission cost is 29 , across the city it's 49 . When an opportunity of this magnitude presents itself only a fool would miss the chance to capitalise on it .

 

[Trafford]

Bit premature?

 

[Tezza1889]

I suggested a while back that the bl upper should be made season ticket only for United fans and that a first time buyer of a season ticket got a percentage reduction as a "new" season ticket holder... attracting new supporters with a one off incentive...

Existing season ticket holders didn't like the idea if I remember rightly...

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Personally (new user here by the way - hi), I would expect an increase in admission prices upon any promotion to a division above. Is it financially viable to freeze tickets in the Championship at a league 1 level when championship players (because we would undoubtedly need some) command championship wages?

I would be willing to pay a 10% increase on my current season ticket.

 

[coolhandluke]

Bit premature?

Not really , no .

The Club will already at least be at the final planning stage of confirming admission prices for next season with contingencies made for whatever Division we are in .

Whether or not prices have been finalised is something of a moot point anyway ..... McCabe can just change them when he wants . *

* He obviously can't do that after they go on sale as aside from piss in a lot of people off who've already bought them he'd have to tear up agreements made between the club and the company we use for the Direct Debit sales of tickets .

 

[coolhandluke]

Personally (new user here by the way - hi), I would expect an increase in admission prices upon any promotion to a division above. Is it financially viable to freeze tickets in the Championship at a league 1 level when championship players (because we would undoubtedly need some) command championship wages?

I would be willing to pay a 10% increase on my current season ticket.

Personally speaking , I'd freeze them . This is too good an opportunity to miss .

Welcome aboard mate .

 

[ashsufc1889]

I agree with CHL. Freeze them for next season, and should we stay up, consider a small increase for the season after that.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Personally speaking , I'd freeze them . This is too good an opportunity to miss .

Welcome aboard mate .

2 ways to look at it. Make it affordable and fill it up. Or raise the price and make the same money on those who don't renew. That's what Wednesday have done. Don't their fans call it the walk up crowd? For those that don't pay on the day it doesn't matter because the advanced purchases cover it?

I'm speaking personally when I say I'd pay an extra 10%. I'd be more than happy with a freeze.

Would you scrap the whole 'new season ticket holders' price bracket? I would.

 

[S64 Blade]

I agree with the OP. If we do go up then there's a massive opportunity to capitalise on our fanbase by the club. We've done it in the past and this has been shown over the past few years, where despite playing badly for the most part, have still had a core fanbase of 18,000+ each home game, more than we were getting 15 years ago when challenging for promotion to the Premier League.

Let's try and add another few thousand to that, whilst rewarding the loyalty of current season ticket holders.

 

[stringjunior]

2 ways to look at it. Make it affordable and fill it up. Or raise the price and make the same money on those who don't renew. That's what Wednesday have done. Don't their fans call it the walk up crowd? For those that don't pay on the day it doesn't matter because the advanced purchases cover it?

I'm speaking personally when I say I'd pay an extra 10%. I'd be more than happy with a freeze.

Would you scrap the whole 'new season ticket holders' price bracket? I would.

Welcome. Have a like.

Good first post. Not too controversial. Good spelling and grammar. No mention of hoof, clapping or knocking, or the Welsh man.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

Personally I would be happy to pay more if the Board responded by investing the sort of money that will be needed to make us competitive if we do go up.

Whilst the pigs charge high prices, most of their fans seem happy because of the big investment in the team.

I do think we need a range of prices though to make it affordable for all.

 

[Grizzly blade]

Over the years, one thing we can say about the club is that they have been fair to fans with ticket pricing (compared to many others).
But I would like to see some incentive to try and fill the stadium, and get fans back into the club.

Last time we were up there we were often getting 25k. It would be nice to have that as your base and then look to adding from there with those who pick games, or can't get every week.

Season tickets work out cheaper if you attend every week, and simply making a season ticket very cheap for a new ST holder is unfair on those who have stuck with the club during the shit years.

I say....they adopt the following.
10% rise in ST prices current price structure.
20%reduction for those with ST for last ten seasons.
10%reduction for last 5 years with ST.

For those who cannot go every week, issue a half ST which allows entry to 13 games of their choice over the season. Limit this to 6 cat A games...5 Cat B...and 2 Cat C. Price it so the two cat C games work out free....so cost wise its 6x A price plus 5 x B price. Condition is you must pick the games within 2 weeks of the selected game starting to allow a seat allocation etc.

Also offer a ST gamble....pay £50 extra and you are assured a ticket for EVERY home cup game whether First team or youth team. That could work out quite lucrative, and although a gamble over a few seasons would even itself out with the years the club makes money and loses out. But for those who go to every game they should at least get their money's worth.


I would also add a discount for ST holders in the club facilities....i.e. 25% discount on food/Drink sales in the stadium. (Double discount from 1pm-2pm...like a happy hour) let's have the fans in early spending in the ground. Food and drink price is inflated anyway, so would still make money. And the ST card system should allow all these purchases to attract points which can be used to get freebies and away ticket priority.

 

[cahill]

I hope prices don't go up but assume they will. Qualifying for a Concession has made division one football easily achievable for me


Wondered what happened to you Ainsley, not on TV much these days are you, never into cooking programmes myself

 

[Dkc]

Imagine if the pigs had a few more points and half the threads on Owlstalk were about their plans once in the Premier League. We'd be taking the piss. Stoppit.

 

[ourbob]

Over the years, one thing we can say about the club is that they have been fair to fans with ticket pricing (compared to many others).
But I would like to see some incentive to try and fill the stadium, and get fans back into the club.

Last time we were up there we were often getting 25k. It would be nice to have that as your base and then look to adding from there with those who pick games, or can't get every week.

Season tickets work out cheaper if you attend every week, and simply making a season ticket very cheap for a new ST holder is unfair on those who have stuck with the club during the shit years.

I say....they adopt the following.
10% rise in ST prices current price structure.
20%reduction for those with ST for last ten seasons.
10%reduction for last 5 years with ST.

For those who cannot go every week, issue a half ST which allows entry to 13 games of their choice over the season. Limit this to 6 cat A games...5 Cat B...and 2 Cat C. Price it so the two cat C games work out free....so cost wise its 6x A price plus 5 x B price. Condition is you must pick the games within 2 weeks of the selected game starting to allow a seat allocation etc.

Also offer a ST gamble....pay £50 extra and you are assured a ticket for EVERY home cup game whether First team or youth team. That could work out quite lucrative, and although a gamble over a few seasons would even itself out with the years the club makes money and loses out. But for those who go to every game they should at least get their money's worth.


I would also add a discount for ST holders in the club facilities....i.e. 25% discount on food/Drink sales in the stadium. (Double discount from 1pm-2pm...like a happy hour) let's have the fans in early spending in the ground. Food and drink price is inflated anyway, so would still make money. And the ST card system should allow all these purchases to attract points which can be used to get freebies and away ticket priority.

is this a piss take?

Got to be.

 

[SwissBlade]

I'm not worried about what the pigs charge, i worry about what i feel is the right price to pay. I think we're about right with our pricing now, attendances are proving that. Two games over christmas we got 50,000. In League one.

I'm sure more incentives could be improved, but the Chris Wilder revolution is helping to give that incentive

 

[metalblade]

I would also add a discount for ST holders in the club facilities....i.e. 25% discount on food/Drink sales in the stadium. (Double discount from 1pm-2pm...like a happy hour) let's have the fans in early spending in the ground. Food and drink price is inflated anyway, so would still make money. And the ST card system should allow all these purchases to attract points which can be used to get freebies and away ticket priority.

Really? kin hell the dummies on refreshments find it difficult to add up the price of a drink and a pie without the complication of 25% off and half of them don't know what day it is never mind the time of day.

 

[Boxer Blade]

If I was a member of the board I would always be looking at how to attract more fans to the lane, from the actual cost of a ticket through to the match day experience, as others have said, tge higher you go the more it costs the club to attract and keep better players however fans will always try and afford a ticket if they are watching good attacking football, like this season, the fans are finding the money, however I would be looking at the younger end and students at our two universities and offering deals you cannot refuse, get em hooked early, keep up the standards on the pitch and off the pitch and keep listening to what the fans want, I may aply for a job, sounds easy ;-)

 

[Sean Thornton]

Over the years, one thing we can say about the club is that they have been fair to fans with ticket pricing (compared to many others).
But I would like to see some incentive to try and fill the stadium, and get fans back into the club.

Last time we were up there we were often getting 25k. It would be nice to have that as your base and then look to adding from there with those who pick games, or can't get every week.

Season tickets work out cheaper if you attend every week, and simply making a season ticket very cheap for a new ST holder is unfair on those who have stuck with the club during the shit years.

I say....they adopt the following.
10% rise in ST prices current price structure.
20%reduction for those with ST for last ten seasons.
10%reduction for last 5 years with ST.

For those who cannot go every week, issue a half ST which allows entry to 13 games of their choice over the season. Limit this to 6 cat A games...5 Cat B...and 2 Cat C. Price it so the two cat C games work out free....so cost wise its 6x A price plus 5 x B price. Condition is you must pick the games within 2 weeks of the selected game starting to allow a seat allocation etc.

Also offer a ST gamble....pay £50 extra and you are assured a ticket for EVERY home cup game whether First team or youth team. That could work out quite lucrative, and although a gamble over a few seasons would even itself out with the years the club makes money and loses out. But for those who go to every game they should at least get their money's worth.


I would also add a discount for ST holders in the club facilities....i.e. 25% discount on food/Drink sales in the stadium. (Double discount from 1pm-2pm...like a happy hour) let's have the fans in early spending in the ground. Food and drink price is inflated anyway, so would still make money. And the ST card system should allow all these purchases to attract points which can be used to get freebies and away ticket priority.

The club sells the catering rights to third parties.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Statement of intent?

McCabe could use the Tuna mans tactics and release a statement.

We are going to show full ambition with a serious push to get into the PL within 3 years.
Therefore we want the supporters to show their ambition too.
So from next season it's £30 on the Kop and £35 in the other stands

Wonder how many fans would be happy at this massive show of AMBITION?

 

[Tyler Durden]

There won't be a second consecutive price freeze on season tickets, especially if promotion is achieved.

I'm currently paying around £12 per match with my season ticket. I won't get away with that much longer, especially with the board seemingly releasing more money for transfers this year.

 

[Sheffsteel]

This thread brings a smile.

Seems most of our fans want McCabe to show ambition but aren't willing to show similiar ambition themselves.

I suppose the plan would be
"Where abouts in the financial league table do Blades want our club to me next season"?
Out of 24 clubs would we be happy having the 18th biggest turnover?

The problem is, with the 18th best finances in a division then
All things being equal expectation levels should be to finish 18th in the table.

A significant strategy of SW's financial plan is
To persuade all fans to pay early and buy season tickets.
Most PL clubs do this and this does appear to be the future.
Then the club knows exactly what budget it had and can plan accordingly.
Also gates remain high throughout the season as non attending season ticket holders are still counted.

So how do you persuade 80% of Blades to buy season tickets?

The answer is charge a massive matchday price of £30 to £35,
Then it means we can legitimately charge away fans that price.
Then offer massive discounts for seasonal ticket holders, where it works out at £18 a match.

I'm not saying I agree but this is an alternative pricing strategy.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Statement of intent?

McCabe could use the Tuna mans tactics and release a statement.

We are going to show full ambition with a serious push to get into the PL within 3 years.
Therefore we want the supporters to show their ambition too.
So from next season it's £30 on the Kop and £35 in the other stands

Wonder how many fans would be happy at this massive show of AMBITION?

£30 on the Kop with its state of the art facilities.

 

[JohnDenver]

There won't be a second consecutive price freeze on season tickets, especially if promotion is achieved.

I'm currently paying around £12 per match with my season ticket. I won't get away with that much longer, especially with the board seemingly releasing more money for transfers this year.

Aye we're kidding ourselves if we think there won't be a price hike should we get promoted. Look at the team's we'd play, their resources, and how much more saleable the games are.

 

[Tyler Durden]

The fact that away tickets in the Premiership have now been capped at £30 with little objection from most of the clubs is proof that their previous pricing structure was exploitative.
Likewise for any club in Divisions 2 and 3 to be charging £27-30.

Yes the pricing structure has to corrolate with what the club is spending, but supporters need to be vigilant against unscrupulous pricing as well.

 

[Deleted member 1486]

Bit premature, we don't even know what league we'll be in next year....

.... we're only 34 points outside the relegation zone!

 

[Sheffsteel]

£30 on the Kop with its state of the art facilities.

Personally I'd rather us have cheap tickets but there is a consequence.

That consequence is that we'all not be able to compete with at least 12 clubs in the league.
So we have to lower expectations and if we finish mid table then we've had an excellent season.

However I suspect some fans want the "sugar daddy" scenario where an investor
gambles large sums based on poor odds that we'll be promoted to the PL. No sensible millionaire would do that unless they have a love and links to SU or maybe they crave the attention, have money to burn and want to treat a club like their latest toy.

We also need to consider away day pricing and away team allocation.
There's a rule that away team MUST be charged the same as supporters in equivalent home sections.
Most clubs get round this rule by introducing a membership scheme.
For example it could be £30 next season in the Kop and away end.
But if you pay £50 for an annual membership card then there's a £10 reduction off all match day tickets.

 

[BushBlade]

The fact that away tickets in the Premiership have now been capped at £30 with little objection from most of the clubs is proof that their previous pricing structure was exploitative.
Likewise for any club in Divisions 2 and 3 to be charging £27-30.

Yes the pricing structure has to corrolate with what the club is spending, but supporters need to be vigilant against unscrupulous pricing as well.

PL clubs can easily cap ticket prices due to the vast amounts of other income they receive. Away support money is a small fraction of their overall income.

That just isn't the case in the rest of the league. The reality is, we put ticket prices up to compete with clubs in the championship or we keep the tickets at the same price and are less competitive.

 

[tyke1889]

Welcome. Have a like.

Good first post. Not too controversial. Good spelling and grammar. No mention of hoof, clapping or knocking, or the Welsh man.

Give him a chance, I'm guessing he's sober at the mo

 

[Maidenhead]

Statement of intent?

McCabe could use the Tuna mans tactics and release a statement.

We are going to show full ambition with a serious push to get into the PL within 3 years.
Therefore we want the supporters to show their ambition too.
So from next season it's £30 on the Kop and £35 in the other stands

Wonder how many fans would be happy at this massive show of AMBITION?

Are you Ken Bates in disguise?

He told Leeds fans many years ago that if they wanted Premiership football they would have to pay Premiership prices.

Unfortunately for their fans they're still paying Premiership prices but fortunately for the rest of us they're still not watching Premiership football

Whatever decisions Mr McCabe has got wrong in the past pricing isn't one of them.

I will trust him to come to the right decision for both the fans and the club whatever division we happen to be playing in.