Shoreham_Bhoys
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I’m glad we had a not a football guy drawing up the “strategic plan” for a football club.
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I don’t suppose they’re in a position to buy a football club are they?….Going back 40 years, I worked for a small, family owned manufacturing plc that bumbled along profitably and unremarkably, with a turnover of about £10m. The family member chairman seemed to use the company as a bit of a cash cow
Gradually however, he surrounded himself with people who understood the business much better than he did and today, that small company has a turnover of £250m and a market value of more than £1 billion.
There’s no direct comparison, but as you say, if we end up with football people running the football and business people steering the ship, that has at least a fair chance of working.
The issue is this is clearly the second iteration of the plan. The initial iteration involved appointing an expensive manager and you would assume appropriately backing him 4 months later we have a new plan. I’m not necessarily against that as plan a wasn’t working but there’s no guarantee we see year 2 of this plan. Ultimately it’ll be shown in time and it’s all done bar the shouting now hecky has my full support and I hope he and his team do well.I listened to the hour long presentation and my view of Yusev is positive. No nonsense tells it like it is and doesn’t suffer fools.
At no time did I get impression he doesn’t care about the club.
I like his attitude frankly. Also media comments today have dissed the boards treatment of Slav.
The chairman gave praise and called him and team a class act so misleading portrayal.
Bottom line is the boards 5 yr plan means promoting youth year 1 and promotion yr 2 without spending big money. Then if promotion years 3 -5 means premier money bankrolls higher spending and academy.
Slav year 1 in January wanted money for 3 players so prob £30m so immediate fall out and Slav has made his feelings clear.
International respected lawyer criticised by people with even less experience than he has as Chairman of a football club. He may have none whatsoever but has experience of big business. Unlike 99% of the experts on here, some of whom worry about getting a pint at half time.Ask McCabe's lawyers if the present chairman is good at his job . Might be a odious tool but he knows HIS job
So he's failed thus far eh ?A chairman doesn’t need to be an expert in HR or genius R&D engineer. He needs to be a good leader and able to lay the foundations so an organisation can flourish. Far too much stock in football is placed on whether or not someone can recite scores from the 1984 European Cup Quarter Finals. If an organisation has turned over £400m over 4 years, you need someone that knows business principles, and get those in place that know football.
where the fuck have you been for the last 2 years ?I must have watched a different conference then. I saw a discussion about running the club sustainably, investing in facilities and youth, structuring the club correctly and operating to a unified strategic plan. Y’know, like all successful businesses do…
calling Slav a class act is hardly credible after sacking him 4 short months into an expensive 3 year contract !I listened to the hour long presentation and my view of Yusev is positive. No nonsense tells it like it is and doesn’t suffer fools.
At no time did I get impression he doesn’t care about the club.
I like his attitude frankly. Also media comments today have dissed the boards treatment of Slav.
The chairman gave praise and called him and team a class act so misleading portrayal.
Bottom line is the boards 5 yr plan means promoting youth year 1 and promotion yr 2 without spending big money. Then if promotion years 3 -5 means premier money bankrolls higher spending and academy.
Slav year 1 in January wanted money for 3 players so prob £30m so immediate fall out and Slav has made his feelings clear.
This club , amongst its many failings , can't even serve me a pint at half-time , which is nothing to be proud of.International respected lawyer criticised by people with even less experience than he has as Chairman of a football club. He may have none whatsoever but has experience of big business. Unlike 99% of the experts on here, some of whom worry about getting a pint at half time.
He clearly says the strategic plan has been in development for over a year and is now ready to be deployed. I’ve been involved in a few business redevelopment strategies and the good ones:where the fuck have you been for the last 2 years ?
they are supposed to have been doing this since the Prince gained ownership
and in that time the club has fallen off a feckin cliff !!
having not one jot of tangible benefit from the £250m which has slipped through its fingers
I mean, if you listen - he answered a lot of that. Sorry if I’m not outraged enough when I hear a sensible approach to running a business.So he's failed thus far eh ?
Wilder allowed to fuck the club's finances up.
Recruited expensive Slav when no startegic plan in place.
Spent the January money paying off Slav.
Meaning he's promoted the U23 manager (who didn't want the job 6 months ago).
A feckin shambles.
No wonder Le Petit Prince has fucked off out of sight after his Blades Way interview.
Yusuf & Bettis are about the most unimpressive feckers I've ever seen.
What a frighteningly dull & unitelligible press conference.
Almost as bad as the frighteningly dull & unintelligible local journos.
Who couldn't cross-examine their way out of a wet paper bag.
Sheffield United in all its glory.
No one watching that 1hr 9mins of utter bollocks would EVER buy us.
We are truly fucked.
Does the CEO of Netflix need to be a Dr Who nerd or be able to recite every line of Star Wars? Or, is it likely that their job is to get great people into post and give them resources to utilise their talents?Don't buy this at all. You've got people who know FA about football deciding who should be the manager. And they're deciding what his reach should be, what the first team needs. You've had 2 managers call them out for getting it wrong and damaging the football side in turn.
If the football side isn't right the turnover drops very very quickly.
I mean, if you listen - he answered a lot of that. Sorry if I’m not outraged enough when I hear a sensible approach to running a business.
He provided almost direct answers addressing that, which you seem to have omitted. Ok, you’ve decided to be outraged and shape the narrative to justify it.We’ll I watched a different one to you in which I heard the following statements….
“SJ was appointed before they had a written a strategic plan. When they'd written it he wasn't part of the plan!!”
And
“The new manager won't be judged on results on the pitch” And even if that could make any sense, Bettis had said in the official statement that results weren't good enough and that's why Slav was sacked.
Sounds like a really successfully run business -
I don’t disagree with that. From memory, his Chambers entry said something like “Clients say he’s a very good technical lawyer” which to me carries the unspoken subtext “…but it’s a shame he’s a bit of a prick”I don’t know how good a lawyer he is (Jones Day certainly out manoeuvred McCabe) but he strikes me as utterly unsuited to doing the job he’s doing now.
Lawyers shouldn’t dabble like this IMHO.
He came across appallingly today. This guy, a relatively unknown solicitor in the Middle East, who by his own admission "isn't a football guy" is head of Board at our club. Imagine being Wilder or Slav and having to take direction from that clown?
Well, yes of course. Even mildly complex business strategies that have to be made palliative for the general public, can easily be dismissed as ‘meaningless management waffle’. I’ve been developing a Category Plan this year with Kraljic Matrices, Porters Five Forces, Forcefield Analysis etc. Are they vital tools and models for planning? Yes. Would they seem completely ridiculous in a press conference? Yes.It was meaningless management waffle. The efficacy of the strategy has already been proven not to work on numerous occasions, not least at BDTBL. Not spending on the first team squad and relying on the inconsistent and sporadic flow of youngsters does not lead to success on the pitch. End of.
One thing the punters can recognise at SUFC is a “strategy” ripe for slow, steady decline. You don’t need an MBA to do so.
Well, yes of course. Even mildly complex business strategies that have to be made palliative for the general public, can easily be dismissed as ‘meaningless management waffle’. I’ve been developing a Category Plan this year with Kraljic Matrices, Porters Five Forces, Forcefield Analysis etc. Are they vital tools and models for planning? Yes. Would they seem completely ridiculous in a press conference? Yes.
So, by that logic you wouldn’t want Warren Buffet, Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk buying us then?Don't buy this at all. You've got people who know FA about football deciding who should be the manager. And they're deciding what his reach should be, what the first team needs. You've had 2 managers call them out for getting it wrong and damaging the football side in turn.
If the football side isn't right the turnover drops very very quickly.
He’s very typical of businessmen in the gulf region, his view is right and any weakness can’t be shown. I’ve dealt with a lot of this type of person and it’s a prevalent behavioural trait of the Arabic world.
Whether it’s bullshit and bluster or he actually knows what he’s on about remains to be seen.
With respect, I’m not sure that’s what he said.Not spending transfer money and relying solely on the youngsters doesn’t work. The United World thing hasn’t worked. The efficacy of both strategies is proven to fail. The rest of it was flannel.
I’m not too bothered about him not being a football man. As others have said, it’s not overly relevant for his role as Chairman.
However, I do have an issue with the utter contempt and seeming lack of awareness that he demonstrated. These are not good leadership qualities for someone whose role it is, to hold those to account who are employed to deliver the strategy of the club.
Well I’m going to stick my neck out here and give our “chairman” some credit.As things stand I really do see us on a slippery slope to nothingness. Also potentially sleepwalking into relegation either this season or next. There will be no more investment from PA as he looks to operate us on a shoe string until he finds a buyer for United World.
It then begs the question how the club act when dealing with other clubs on transfers, or with potential investors, or with suppliers etc.It’s largely immaterial whether he’s a football man or not. But the whole thing was a mess.
Our best hope is the Football Regulator is set up quick and fans are given a golden ticket to be involved with the running of the club. Then we will be able to get a timely pie and pint at half time along with the other 1,500 fans at the game.International respected lawyer criticised by people with even less experience than he has as Chairman of a football club. He may have none whatsoever but has experience of big business. Unlike 99% of the experts on here, some of whom worry about getting a pint at half time.
With respect, I’m not sure that’s what he said.
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