Wilder willing to return?

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

For all the chest beating and saying he wouldn't leave through the back door, everybody supporting him, the chairman breaking the law to fly to the UK while the nation was under lockdown just to reassure him he was "his man" face to face, practically begging him and Wilder still seeking an exit, we still know nothing from CW side of things.. Why? What was so bad you desperately needed to get out..

Wilder never got challenged over any of his dealings (Rodwell - Morrison) we never said owt even though nobody knows why they came - is Rodwell still here? Still wanna go on about not getting backed? Oli Burke for Robinson.. Nobody criticised him "in wilder we trust" was the saying..

During this terrible season he'd accepted his team were getting relegated, we'd accepted it before Xmas, but there wasn't a statement from CW saying that he was here for the long haul, wasn't turning his back, would take what comes and go again.. Lean from it all.. Nope, nothing, silence..

Let's not go backwards for sentiment, the same sentiment he didn't have for the club when we needed it..

Totally. All he needed to say was 'I fucked up this season, but I got us into this mess and by hell I'm going to get us out of this mess'... And 99% of the fan base would have been stood firmly behind him.

He didn't.

 

[Brewster Cost £70 million]

No for a start I wouldn't be able to sing he's one of our own and mean it anymore,spunks muneh and slags players NO

 

[Tezza1889]

Totally. All he needed to say was 'I fucked up this season, but I got us into this mess and by hell I'm going to get us out of this mess'... And 99% of the fan base would have been stood firmly behind him.

He didn't.

I was banging the drum for him, I didn't know anybody who didn't want him to stop and have a few good championship seasons if it cane to it.. I thought he was good enough to win the play off final with united.... That's how high I rated him..

Why go, when everybody was behind you, *everybody had your back..

*Fans.

 

[Maidenhead]

I was banging the drum for him, I didn't know anybody who didn't want him to stop and have a few good championship seasons if it cane to it.. I thought he was good enough to win the play off final with united.... That's how high I rated him..

Why go, when everybody was behind you, *everybody had your back..

*Fans.

Completely agree but unfortunately that ship appears to have sailed with him at the helm.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I was banging the drum for him, I didn't know anybody who didn't want him to stop and have a few good championship seasons if it cane to it.. I thought he was good enough to win the play off final with united.... That's how high I rated him..

Why go, when everybody was behind you, *everybody had your back..

*Fans.

Ego.

After the shit awful season, there needed to be a sacrifice and if it wasn't to be Wilder's job security, he has to throw his ego under the bus. However, he just couldn't do it.

Funnily enough - the best club/job for Chris Wilder to get back on the horse and rebuild his reputation is Sheffield United and the best manager available who has course & distance in the Championship for us is Chris Wilder...

As it is, we'll end up with a carousel of middle of the road foreign managers for the next decade and Wilder will do a Warnock and spend the next decade being the darling of mid table Championship clubs...

 

[AdamSufc1997]

If he was willing to return. Would he change the way he recruits looking abroad etc. Would he have a plan b if things go tits up. We all know how stubborn he is. I'm sorry but he's tried to resign a couple of times so it's best we move on and go for someone else. There's no way he will change any of that

 

[steve26272]

He was supposed to get the new training ground where is it?
He asked to increase the wage bill was it?
He asked for a couple of loan signings a third way through the season to mitigate Sander Berge's injury and JOC's where were they?
That's what I mean by backed.
There is no way on this planet that you can go into the striker market without £40mil and expect success. He did the best with what he was able and got us to nineth. The plan was not to stay up it was to improve the squad, he did this we have a better squad now than when we came up.
Covid killed our season in a few ways. Had we had Bramall Lane rocking we would have got more results (Martin Keone stated this). The long gap then shortened pre season killed us in terms of fitness. It must have been aweful playing in dead stadiums that are the dream of playing in that league.
I wasn't talking about his big ticket signings he did the best he coiuld with the money.
Also like Sir Alex Chris Wilder goes on personality as much as ability. Look at Sander Berge great kid personality and fits in well. So I presume he would have kept the squad personality together and not intorduced "Ego's" into it.

Seriously??!!

What are Berge & Brewster on? £40k? what have all the players who re-signed contracts been put on? £25k? What was average in promotion season? £10k? Our wage bill will have multiplied by 4 fold at least in the last 18 months

You cant have loan signing after a third, and by the time JTW opened, we were down, CW had thrown his toy out on a couple of occasions, what the point?

The thing about CV19 is its a level playing field - all team had a gap, a shorter preseason etc - how come everyone else (poss bar Liverpool) have managed to carry on? Is that not the managers job, to get them fit, and keep focussed in empty stadiums?

His buys were shocking, are you telling me that you think Burke, Brewster, Mousse, Robinson (X2), are good buys? Yet that represents over £50million quid - yes £50mil and they are shite.

Agree on the personality bit, but again, thats the managers job - dont you think Fergie came across one or two in his time managing Beckham, Keane, Ronaldo, Cantona, Giggs, Ferdinand, Hughes etc - he just knew how to manage them, are we suggesting that CW doesnt know how to, so therefore swerves away from buying them? because any young male that has got to the level required to play in the Prem will have an ego, were back to managing.

To suggest that he wasnt backed is crackers mate, we had a net spend last year of £50m, thats more than Tottenham who were in the Champions league final the year before, and only £11m behind the 4th richest club in the world

 

[reedy63]

I don,t think the prince would have Chris Wilder back.
when the tough got going he went.
Who,s to say he wunt do that again.
Great manager who quit his dream job.

 

[WhittingtonBlade]

Agree on the personality bit, but again, thats the managers job - dont you think Fergie came across one or two in his time managing Beckham, Keane, Ronaldo, Cantona, Giggs, Ferdinand, Hughes etc - he just knew how to manage them, are we suggesting that CW doesnt know how to, so therefore swerves away from buying them? because any young male that has got to the level required to play in the Prem will have an ego, were back to managing.

Dean Henderson had a rate ego, Wilder took it down a few pegs after both Villa 3-3 and Liverpool defeats. He knew how to deal with it. Think for me he just couldn't be arsed to struggle with someone who struggles to speak English. Hearing Mousset try to string sentences would put anyone off.

 

[steve26272]

Interesting quote from Talksport today

Speaking to a EPL manager about the difficulties in been in the spotlight - couldnt help think CW could have done with a dose of this

Until you figure out who said it, then you realise he isnt 2 faced, but technically 4 faced.

“I thought the easy thing would be to say I am not enjoying this anymore and I will walk away. That has never been me. I wanted to batten down the hatches and make sure Newcastle are safe this season.”


No Steve, never walked away mate, Im sure fans of the Blades, Palace and the scrubbers bow down to you unswerving loyalty

Steve Bruce uncertain on his Newcastle future as he faces trial by fans

The Newcastle United boss is fresh from an impressive win against Leicester which has secured the club in the Premier League next season. But he is unable to say he will be boss next season with an end of term review set to discuss his future

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

I'd rather he'd held up his hands, said he was mentally worn out, and took a sabbatical.

I think we might have understood that.

The trust in him has surely gone

 

[CPB]

Absolutely have him back. A Wilder whose had time to reflect and get fresh again. Yes please.
Alot forget that 12 months ago he truly was the Messiah here. And an had managed 4 v.good seasons. 1 bad season yes.

That said can't see it at all

 

[CPB]

Also I'm amazed that so many think that because he offered to resign twice this means he isn't a true blade. Also to think the prince interview was meant to tarnish Chris' rep too. That was the point of it, as he had been sent lots of messages for the loss of Chris.

The reason he won't be coming back is the exact reason he tried to resign and it's not just down to the terrible form we have had this season. It's because his trust in the board and prince had become far too thin and like others have said promises that didn't come to fruition.
In the end it was mutual sadly.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Also I'm amazed that so many think that because he offered to resign twice this means he isn't a true blade. Also to think the prince interview was meant to tarnish Chris' rep too. That was the point of it, as he had been sent lots of messages for the loss of Chris.

The reason he won't be coming back is the exact reason he tried to resign and it's not just down to the terrible form we have had this season. It's because his trust in the board and prince had become far too thin and like others have said promises that didn't come to fruition.
In the end it was mutual sadly.

Alright Wit, give it a rest will yer... Don't you have houses to sell??

 

[EddieColquhoun]

He asked to increase the wage bill was it?

Berge and Brewster replaced Coutts and Leon. Do you think their wages are the same?
The Prince said £4m was nearly our manager's salary. Was he on £80k+/week in the Championship?

 

[tincan]

CW, once was a good meal, then bought shit as a dessert, couldn't admit his mistakes, made the team eat it and so now all he has left us with is a season of turds. We have to find a new guy to turn the turds into fertiliser in time for next season.

 

[RedandWhite]

Nope, he gave us an incredible 4.05 years. We wouldnt ask him, he wouldnt want to.

 

[CPB]

Alright Wit, give it a rest will yer... Don't you have houses to sell??

Haha, I've heard of this guy. But no I ain't wit!

I'd have him back though for sure. Not happening though.

 

[Heely bottoms underpants]

CW, once was a good meal, then bought shit as a dessert, couldn't admit his mistakes, made the team eat it and so now all he has left us with is a season of turds. We have to find a new guy to turn the turds into fertiliser in time for next season.

That's deep brother!

 

[Large Mendonca]

Not for me. Would be like a trophy wife going mental, shagging half the premier league, then coming back to the doorstep saying "sorry about that, not sure what happened there".

 

[Tezza1889]

That's deep brother!

He had me at turds.......

 

[billyblademan]

Wages were agreed with maupay then at the very last minute the agent demanded an additional personal bung
Wilder told him to do one

don’t ask how I know I just do

I know he's probably sat smug now, but I wonder how Maupay felt last season seeing us challenging for Europe knowing that he'd agreed to join us, but his agent got greedy...

 

[Blade58]

I was listening to Talksport last night whilst driving.

They were talking about West Brom being relegated and they think Sam Alladyce might stay because they would be the main favourites for promotion next season.
They highlighted that Fulham have too many loanees and Sheffield United are in turmoil and need to get out of the habit of losing.

However they mentioned the huge gap between the PL and Championship.
They said next season the Championship doesn’t look particularly strong....so all 3 relegated clubs have a good chance of being promoted at the first attempt.

One of the presenters...not sure if it was Darren Ambrose or Darren Bent.
He said he was talking to Alan Biggs who said that “if Sheff Utd offer an olive branch then according to him, Chris Wilder is prepared to return”

I’m surprised this hasn’t been mentioned before or is it old news?
Would you take Wilder back? I suppose it depends on what alternatives we have...but it would certainly give the club a boost.

"He said he was talking to Alan Biggs who said that “if Sheff Utd offer an olive branch then according to him, Chris Wilder is prepared to return”

Sorry, don't get that? What olive branch would that be? What have the board done to be in a position to have to offer an olive branch?
Wilder resigned didn't he?

Just find it bit strange without knowing all the facts

 

[Varkanoid]

Absolutely have him back. A Wilder whose had time to reflect and get fresh again. Yes please.
Alot forget that 12 months ago he truly was the Messiah here. And an had managed 4 v.good seasons. 1 bad season yes.

That said can't see it at all

but then again judging on the above you could say 1 bad season and he did a runner shows when the going gets tough......the heat was too much in the kitchen.

.

 

[Grey Blade]

I'd rather he'd held up his hands, said he was mentally worn out, and took a sabbatical.

If this had been the case I would have been more than happy to see him back. In the macho world of football has a manager ever taken a sabbatical? I can't think of one.

Personally I don't think it would be possible to come back now - there would always be the niggling doubt that he wouldn't be able to cope with the pressure again unless that is he could swallow his pride and accept a technical/director of football - but I doubt that would be realistic

 

[bakeblade]

I can't wait for him to get a new job. He will surely swoop for Burke to lead his forward line.

And McBurnie, moose, Brewster hopefully

 

[ForgeBlade]

Dean Henderson had a rate ego, Wilder took it down a few pegs after both Villa 3-3 and Liverpool defeats. He knew how to deal with it. Think for me he just couldn't be arsed to struggle with someone who struggles to speak English. Hearing Mousset try to string sentences would put anyone off.

Surely that's a huge mark against him? If he "can't be arsed" to deal with players for who English is not their first language, then surely that is something he needs to work on? I don't remember Fergie having a problem like this, or Pep (for example) not getting on with English players, or players who don't speak fluent Spanish.

Football is a global game. Dealing with language barriers is part of the job. If a club/manager limit themselves to English/British players for whatever reason, then that club and manager are going to be at a disadvantage.

Should players who come to live and "work" in the UK be expected to learn English? Yes.

Should players who, for whatever reason, struggle with this (and let's remember, footballers traditionally aren't always MENSA candidates) be excluded from consideration? Absolutely no.

 

[Chilttheblade]

I know a lot of people on this forum are very grateful that the club returned to the EPL and happy to go to these big clubs and get beaten and also have the opportunity to sign Chelsea reserves like Ampadu.
However I want more from United then this .
This is the reason I would not want Wilder back.He has shown that he is not up to Premiership standard ,he can't handle tactics ,recruitment,motivation and other managerial qualities expected at that level.
From what we have seen ,Wilder is League 1 level and no more.
We need a manager who can take us up and know how to continually improve the team.

 

[bypassblade]

I'd rather he'd held up his hands, said he was mentally worn out, and took a sabbatical.

I think we might have understood that.

The trust in him has surely gone

I think that is a great description of the situation.

 

[DifferentClass]

I actually heard a rumour along these lines last week.

Dismissed it as bollocks at the time but weirder rumours have come true...