Wilder Statement

[AdamSufc1997]

Can't we all just move on

 

[Pedro Verde]

that's only speculation and assumption though......

Thats why I said probably

 

[true99blade]

You accused PA of petty point scoring where it can be argued that CW was doing this whilst he was still employed by the club as his mates were as well. PA was responding to comments made

Fuck me this is going in circles... I don’t know where I’ve said Wilder never complained and moaned whilst he was employed. They parted company, thus should be the end of any squabble. The Prince tried carrying it on publicly. Wilder hasn’t. Simples.

 

[sitwell]

Man-baby resorts to calling other blade a pig. Grow up you child.

Started posting 3 days ago and chucking insults about telling people what to post , just joined or were you previously another alias ?

 

[Maidenhead]

This is all in the past.

Whatever happened it's history, it's gone, it doesn't matter any more, it's no longer relevant.

Right now we are where we are.

It's nearly home time for today so let's say that the future starts tomorrow.

All that matters to us now is what comes next, so let's put the past behind us, cull the negativity,
get behind the board, support the club and be loud and proud Blades.

At the end of the day we all want the same things but the only ones that can have any influence on that are those in charge.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Nice words to reflect on his time here although it feels a little bit like that statement been heavily vetted by the LMA's legal and PR departments before it was released.

Thanks for the memories, for getting us out the shit and getting us somewhere we'd never expect to be but a statement along the lines of "performances and results this season haven't been what we've come to expect over the past 4 years and despite the efforts of myself, the staff and the team, we're sorry that we couldn't emulate the success we've become accustomed to" would have been nice.

He is entitled to legal advice, he’d be daft not to take it.

What’s nice is that he’s not stirred the pot, unless people want to interpret his statement to fit their agenda. He recognises the input of the fans in the ground, which l’d say is totally heartfelt and not some Colinesque PR comment.

l’m disappointed how it ended, sorry he’s not here next season and can’t see where the nastiness from some people comes from.

 

[Maidenhead]

Fuck me this is going in circles... I don’t know where I’ve said Wilder never complained and moaned whilst he was employed. They parted company, thus should be the end of any squabble. The Prince tried carrying it on publicly. Wilder hasn’t. Simples.

Wilder just did it for the last 3 months he was working but as I've said above, it's the past, it doesn't bloody matter, let it go.

The future is tomorrow

 

[Addison]

Why is he bound by an NDA ?

As Pedro Verde says he will have probably signed an NDA as part of his severance terms. Its a common practice in football management jobs when there is parting of the ways before a contract expires. Both parties will have agreed the terms on which CW left, a compromise agreement. Standard confidentiality terms should as a minimum include the manner of leaving and actual amounts due and over what time period. In addition CW's contract of employment would have required commercial confidentiality and reputational clauses that should read across to the NDA if the lawyers are earning their money. For example the Club may want to keep information on players buy out clauses confidential. It has also in the past not been uncommon for Clubs to insist that the departing manager does not return to buy their players for a period of time.

NDA's are always weighted in favour of the employer as they would be to ensure competitors do not gain commercial advantage. If there was a £15 million buy out of CW's contract, as referred to by the Prince, then the Board will have wanted to ensure CW did not walk into another job and the new Club avoid paying the buy out. For that reason the severance is likely to extend over a period of time firstly to prevent the above scenario arising and secondly to provide financial protection in the event of CW finding a new job within the agreed time frame. In essence if he gets a new job within 3 months then the severance payments stop. That doesn't mean to say that other confidentiality clauses would cease on new employment being secured. In my own work I was once tied to an NDA for 12 months before I received my pay off. A clause referring to the Official Secrets Act continued for some time after.

The fact issues appear to have been carrying on 48 hours after the news first broke of CW's departure indicates it was the construction of the terms of the NDA that was the matter being considered.

 

[Chingo]

Fuck me this is going in circles... I don’t know where I’ve said Wilder never complained and moaned whilst he was employed. They parted company, thus should be the end of any squabble. The Prince tried carrying it on publicly. Wilder hasn’t. Simples.

Do you realise how much flak the prince will have taken since wilder walked ?
If you were getting pelters from every direction when you had done nothing wrong wouldn’t you have come out and tried to put the record straight?

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Do you realise how much flak the prince will have taken since wilder walked ?
If you were getting peters from every direction when you had done nothing wrong wouldn’t you have come out and tried to put the record straight?

At the risk of perpetuating this futile argument - how do you know he did nothing wrong?

 

[Varkanoid]

A clause referring to the Official Secrets Act continued for some time after.

Geez thats brought back memories, believe it or not I had to sign that when I joined Royal Mail in the late 80's I remember it because it was on navy blue paper so it could not be photocopied. Still dont understand why I had to sign it.

 

[Maidenhead]

At the risk of perpetuating this futile argument - how do you know he did nothing wrong?

Because it's his business and he can do what he likes (within legal boundaries)?

 

[Maidenhead]

Geez thats brought back memories, believe it or not I had to sign that when I joined Royal Mail in the late 80's I remember it because it was on navy blue paper so it could not be photocopied. Still dont understandf why I had to sign it.

So you couldn't disclose where the Queen was sending the 100th birthday and 60th Anniversary cards to?

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Because it's his business and he can do what he likes (within legal boundaries)?

Well I don’t know where to start with that tripe - so I won’t.

 

[BushBlade]

Do you realise how much flak the prince will have taken since wilder walked ?
If you were getting pelters from every direction when you had done nothing wrong wouldn’t you have come out and tried to put the record straight?

Talk’s cheap Chingo, didn’t you learn that with McCabe? If he’s getting pelters now, it’s going to nowt compared with what he’ll get if we don’t get back up.

 

[true99blade]

Wilder just did it for the last 3 months he was working but as I've said above, it's the past, it doesn't bloody matter, let it go.

The future is tomorrow

Let what go?

 

[Chingo]

As Pedro Verde says he will have probably signed an NDA as part of his severance terms. Its a common practice in football management jobs when there is parting of the ways before a contract expires. Both parties will have agreed the terms on which CW left, a compromise agreement. Standard confidentiality terms should as a minimum include the manner of leaving and actual amounts due and over what time period. In addition CW's contract of employment would have required commercial confidentiality and reputational clauses that should read across to the NDA if the lawyers are earning their money. For example the Club may want to keep information on players buy out clauses confidential. It has also in the past not been uncommon for Clubs to insist that the departing manager does not return to buy their players for a period of time.

NDA's are always weighted in favour of the employer as they would be to ensure competitors do not gain commercial advantage. If there was a £15 million buy out of CW's contract, as referred to by the Prince, then the Board will have wanted to ensure CW did not walk into another job and the new Club avoid paying the buy out. For that reason the severance is likely to extend over a period of time firstly to prevent the above scenario arising and secondly to provide financial protection in the event of CW finding a new job within the agreed time frame. In essence if he gets a new job within 3 months then the severance payments stop. That doesn't mean to say that other confidentiality clauses would cease on new employment being secured. In my own work I was once tied to an NDA for 12 months before I received my pay off. A clause referring to the Official Secrets Act continued for some time after.

The fact issues appear to have been carrying on 48 hours after the news first broke of CW's departure indicates it was the construction of the terms of the NDA that was the matter being considered.

But if the prince had said something untrue or something liable to harm wilders future employment anywhere in his statement would wilder be allowed to then speak out ?

 

[true99blade]

Do you realise how much flak the prince will have taken since wilder walked ?
If you were getting pelters from every direction when you had done nothing wrong wouldn’t you have come out and tried to put the record straight?

You don’t like him, I get it.

 

[cahill]

Geez thats brought back memories, believe it or not I had to sign that when I joined Royal Mail in the late 80's I remember it because it was on navy blue paper so it could not be photocopied. Still dont understand why I had to sign it.

when I left the RAF in 1973, I had to sign summat like that. I think they thought I was a Commy spy

 

[BushBlade]

He is entitled to legal advice, he’d be daft not to take it.

What’s nice is that he’s not stirred the pot, unless people want to interpret his statement to fit their agenda. He recognises the input of the fans in the ground, which l’d say is totally heartfelt and not some Colinesque PR comment.

l’m disappointed how it ended, sorry he’s not here next season and can’t see where the nastiness from some people comes from.

It’s a wishful narrative. The idea that Wilder is a twat who jumped ship supports the idea that PA is a good guy who knows what he’s doing. The alternative is that Wilder may have had good reasons for walking and that PA may be an egotist who thinks he knows more about football than he really does, which indicates we could be in the shit again.
We don’t know the full story, we don’t know the full truth so it’s easier just to believe in what makes you feel comfortable.

 

[ATL Recs]

Didn't love us enough to finish what he started. He should have put up with the owners until the end of the season then resigned.

Fuck him and his lapdog called Wit.

Fuck me this is going in circles... I don’t know where I’ve said Wilder never complained and moaned whilst he was employed. They parted company, thus should be the end of any squabble. The Prince tried carrying it on publicly. Wilder hasn’t. Simples.

The Prince has carried nothing on he can't legally do that or CW would have him and the same if it was the other way round, I cant see where there is a squabble.
The Prince has given a club statement, one that will have been proofed and probably written by the legal arms of the club and possibly CW and his legal representation will have seen this before it went public.
Surely (and I am a Wilder supporter love the bloke tbh) anything that the Prince put out in the public domain was only giving response to the clubs position and to what CW had said in the public domain over the previous 10 months or so.

 

[cahill]

It’s a wishful narrative. The idea that Wilder is a twat who jumped ship supports the idea that PA is a good guy who knows what he’s doing. The alternative is that Wilder may have had good reasons for walking and that PA may be an egotist who thinks he knows more about football than he really does, which indicates we could be in the shit again.
We don’t know the full story, we don’t know the full truth so it’s easier just to believe in what makes you feel comfortable.

Christ !! Hope your third sentence is inaccurate.

 

[Addison]

Geez thats brought back memories, believe it or not I had to sign that when I joined Royal Mail in the late 80's I remember it because it was on navy blue paper so it could not be photocopied. Still dont understand why I had to sign it.

Still a requirement now to do with the safeguarding of information under the provisions of the Act.

 

[Hartley Hare]

Let it lie.

HH

 

[BushBlade]

Christ !! Hope your third sentence is inaccurate.

So do I mate, so do I.

You commie bastard

 

[Nine Inch Nalis]

l’m disappointed how it ended, sorry he’s not here next season and can’t see where the nastiness from some people comes from.

You haven't met enough of our fans then.

 

[Addison]

But if the prince had said something untrue or something liable to harm wilders future employment anywhere in his statement would wilder be allowed to then speak out ?

It has been inferred CW was taking advice from the LMA on the content of the Princes interview. To-days statement suggests there was an acceptance there was nothing contentious in it that could be challenged. That doesn't mean to say the Princes version is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth simply that his version of events does not breach the NDA or impinge on CW's future employability. The truth from experience I suspect is somewhere in between both versions and is unlikely to ever be known.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

In the almost immediate aftermath of Wilder's departure, I sent a message of support and thanks.

In my 33 years as a Blade, the past 5 years have been the very best. Chris and Knilly arrived at a time when we needed them the most and they transformed our club beyond anything we could’ve hoped for or imagined.

But, it’s the manner in which the club has progressed, that’s mattered the most. Our Blades playing innovative football, dominating possession, attacking teams on the front foot.

We have watched on, bursting with pride, as they took us from languishing in League One, to two automatic promotions, record points tallies, players in the team of the year, LMA manager of the year, runner-up the next, reclaiming the city, THAT Duffy goal at Hillsborough, partying at the Town Hall, overlapping centre backs, Couttsy never giving the ball away – that midfield trio, Basham arriving at Leeds, Billy’s goalscoring records, John Egan’s song. Reaching the Premier League and continuing to take it to the big boys – with a never say die atittude – all of this, on a budget, and whilst winning the adoration of neutrals nationally and internationally. The whole world was looking and admiring our club, this stuff simply does not happen at Sheffield United.

But most of all, to do it with a Blade as a Skipper and a Blade in the dugout – that is what has mattered the most. The magic of that fairytale was second to none. Any club can have success, but to achieve what we achieved and with two of our own leading the way, it matters so much more. After years of nothingness, apathy, they gave us our club back – they reconnected the club with the fans when we needed it the most.

 

[Sean Thornton]

You haven't met enough of our fans then.

Mi Blades?

 

[Chingo]

At the risk of perpetuating this futile argument - how do you know he did nothing wrong?

Because as said elsewhere if anything had been wrong in the princes statement the LMA would have said so instead of today’s copy and paste manager leaving statement