Wilder on Ched

[Tunstall Fred]

Doesn't CW state if players were not his decision he'd shake hands and be out of the door?

He does,very clearly say that,however for those with an agenda,it means nothing,the big bad Chairman is behind it all and Chris is telling lies

 

[Hamburg Blade]

By the same token , you could claim that every signing made by CW has had some form of boardroom " inteference " because " ultimately " they say yes or no .

But lets be honest here Hamburg , " inteference " in this instance is all about CW being forced to sign someone whether he likes it or not .

No, you could not claim board interference means them giving an ok to a signing a manager has arranged, organised and completed completely on his own. Nor is it as black and white as your second sentence suggests. There are lots of grey areas in between. I don't know why you are insisting McCabe can't have been anywhere near it for Wilder to have been in control of the final decision.

Because the boardroom have absolutely no say in who CW looks at and the positions hes interested in strengthening in . You could ofcourse very plausibly maintain that Mitchell will have had a big say in CWs move for Ched , but he isnt a Board member .

The only part the Boardroom have played in this transfer and every other one that CW or any other manager have made is in saying a simple yes or no to CW's request .

But Wilder has said nothing of the sort.

 

[FMBlade1]

Some people are determined to believe what they want to believe despite evidence to the contrary, and even if presented to them they question it or try to infer something that isn't there or say 'well it doesn't disprove my theory'. Its like those who questioned Obama's birth certificate FFS

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

O my

Sorry to bring the whole thread to its knees and be the pedant, but that's not Kenneth Williams. That's Charles Hawtry...

Think you need to brush up on your 1970's kitsch cinema in future.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Some people are determined to believe what they want to believe despite evidence to the contrary, and even if presented to them they question it or try to infer something that isn't there or say 'well it doesn't disprove my theory'. Its like those who questioned Obama's birth certificate FFS

He was born in deepest darkest Desso FM.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

That has to end the 'meltdown' now surely.

1. It was his his signing and his alone, if it was a deal forced/pressured on him he would have resigned
2. Ched has passed a medical record and he's happy with his fitness
3. The fees bandied around in the press are no-where near what the deal is actually worth, indeed he says it was very good value for money
4. There were other teams interested in signing him
5. Ched's attitude seems to be spot on and Wilder met him in person

6. Wilders fuckin brilliant.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

" It ultimately is my decision , i know that theres been a few bits and pieces flying round that you know its been pushed on me , i wouldnt be at this football club if i was told to sign certain players , and thats a fact , id shake the owners hand and walk out the front door as i walked in the front door . Ive said that all along , you know , my standing at the football club im not going to be a patsy to anyone i have to work with people but these are my decisions "

Thats a direct quote from CW , which part of that doesnt dispel views about Boardroom interference in his decision to sign Ched ? Or are you simply referring to the fact that at some point the signing of Ched would need ratification by the board just like every signing he makes does ?

Some people can't see the wood for the trees because of the shit they spout.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

No, you didn't explain your thoughts. What do you mean by 'taken one for the team'? There's more than one interpretation of that.

Ched been shaggin Wilder?

Does Nattasha know?

 

[Dkc]

But what if McCabe told Wilder to say it was his decision so it would go down better with the fans? And wil Ched really be able to reproduce his best form? What if his signing disrupts the dressing room? Etc etc

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

But what if McCabe told Wilder to say it was his decision so it would go down better with the fans? And wil Ched really be able to reproduce his best form? What if his signing disrupts the dressing room? Etc etc

What if tha spouting bollocks?

 

[Upton_Blade]

Actually it's nothing like Barkley who still has a year on his contract to go. All Koemans bluster is irrelevant as he can't sell Barkley if he doesn't want to go.

In contrast Wilder can remove OSheas offer as soon as he wants and given he's gonna be a squad player I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of him as Wilder has said many times before he has a value and sticks to it and wants players who want to play for the club not just the wages

Very much doubt that JOS is stalling due to the wage offered. More than likely weighing up whether he would be better looking elsewhere where he will get more game time as obvious he will be a squad player here.

 

[Th!stledo]

Some people are determined to believe what they want to believe despite evidence to the contrary, and even if presented to them they question it or try to infer something that isn't there or say 'well it doesn't disprove my theory'. Its like those who questioned Obama's birth certificate FFS

Unfortunately it just proves a point that, as humans, people make decisions and rationalise everything else to suit their decisions.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Sorry to bring the whole thread to its knees and be the pedant, but that's not Kenneth Williams. That's Charles Hawtry...

Think you need to brush up on your 1970's kitsch cinema in future.

I went for the facial expression more than the accuracy of the picture,which i think Charlie portrayed very well,even if i say so myself,and in reply to your post casting doubt on my knowledge of Carry On stars,i offer the following retort

 

[Grappler]

O my

 

[Pedro's Winger]

Because the boardroom have absolutely no say in who CW looks at and the positions hes interested in strengthening in . You could ofcourse very plausibly maintain that Mitchell will have had a big say in CWs move for Ched , but he isnt a Board member .

The only part the Boardroom have played in this transfer and every other one that CW or any other manager have made is in saying a simple yes or no to CW's request .

Given the close connection with club maintained with Evans since he went down, the promises made etc, etc it's obvious this is far from any old normal transfer and there was been lots of boardroom involvement throughout.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Given the close connection with club maintained with Evans since he went down, the promises made etc, etc it's obvious this is far from any old normal transfer and there was been lots of boardroom involvement throughout.

No it is not obvious,our manager has spoken today and put to bed all the silly rumours peddled by the likes of you and Alfreton14Blade ,but you will just keep banging your head against the brick wall,

 

[Tunstall Fred]

 

[FMBlade1]

It astonishes me that people are going so far as to say Wilder lied to us on public radio just so they can bash McCabe for the signing of Evans

(actually it doesn't astonish me, sadly all too believable)

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Given the close connection with club maintained with Evans since he went down, the promises made etc, etc it's obvious this is far from any old normal transfer and there was been lots of boardroom involvement throughout.

No shananigans, get over it.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

No it is not obvious,our manager has spoken today and put to bed all the silly rumours peddled by the likes of you and Alfreton14Blade ,but you will just keep banging your head against the brick wall,

Evans is here. Wilder's happy with it. Don't see anyone taking any issue with that.

But the interview doesn't clear up McCabe's level of involvement in the deal, because the matter wasn't addressed.

It remains ambiguous. And people have different views on it. Big deal.

 

[FMBlade1]

Evans is here. Wilder's happy with it. Don't see anyone taking any issue with that.

But the interview doesn't clear up McCabe's level of involvement in the deal, because it wasn't addressed. The issue remains ambiguous. People have different views on it. Big deal.

The interview doesn't clear up the issue of the spaghetti monster on the moon, because it wasn't addressed. The issue remains ambiguous. People have different views on it. Big deal?

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

The interview doesn't clear up the issue of the spaghetti monster on the moon, because it wasn't addressed. The issue remains ambiguous. People have different views on it. Big deal?

You were much better when you did the court reporting, FM.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Evans is here. Wilder's happy with it. Don't see anyone taking any issue with that.

But the interview doesn't clear up McCabe's level of involvement in the deal, because the matter wasn't addressed.

It remains ambiguous. And people have different views on it. Big deal.

Suck it up.

 

[FMBlade1]

You were much better when you did the court reporting, FM.

We know thanks to scientific evidence provided by NASA (and others) that there is no spaghetti monster on the moon. We also know thanks to the evidence provided by Wilder that McCabe had no involvement/interference in the Ched Evans deal. If you doubt the evidence that Wilder gave, you may as well doubt the evidence that NASA gave

(FMBlade doesn't just do court side reporting, scientific journals are available on request xd)

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

NorthKoreaTalk, thattaway >

 

[FMBlade1]

NorthKoreaTalk, thattaway >

So anyone who takes what Wilder says as truthful evidence over the signing of Ched Evans should move off to SWFC forums? Come on you're better than this, believe what you want but don't expect not to be challenged on it

 

[coolhandluke]

NorthKoreaTalk, thattaway >

Accept my apologies here Alfreton , but I clearly have seen previous posts about the Ched Evans signing you've made . But what is it exactly that you are hinting at here about the deal that you don't agree with .

 

[Pierre's PC]

NorthKoreaTalk, thattaway >

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

So anyone who takes what Wilder says as truthful evidence over the signing of Ched Evans should move off to SWFC forums? Come on you're better than this, believe what you want but don't expect not to be challenged on it

Nah, I'm saying that this insistence on taking the "party line" smacks of NorthKoreaTalkism, that's all.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Accept my apologies here Alfreton , but I clearly have seen previous posts about the Ched Evans signing you've made . But what is it exactly that you are hinting at here about the deal that you don't agree with .

Mate, it's clear. It's been brought up by others too. Is it worth dragging this out?