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Well the game should have been buried after 30 mins so CW is right to make the point at a time where it will stick in the players minds better to make point after a win than a defeat. a good point about the diving and cheating from Leeds who I thought were a set of dirty cunts in the end, they tried every trick in the book to get the win but were beaten by a better side. That said I thought they offered more than the pigs.
Nothing about Leeds has changed. They were. They are. And more likely than not. They will always be the dirtiest scumies
 
How refreshing and how far have we have come in such an unbelievable short time. Yep we got sloppy for 25 mins, v unlike us...but we we looked pretty comfy, yes they hit the post but we are unlike any other blades team, we re grouped and had the ace up our sleeve...Brooks. I get wilders comments, but boy how far we’ve come in 14 months! This is great!
 
Great win,can't fault them for effort,but agree with Chris we uncharacteristically gave the ball away and invited pressure and gave needless free kicks away...Even Coutts lost the ball once or twice.
Having said that,we deserved the win..What a team Leon and Duffy were class.
 
Who the hell does Wilder think he is? I remember an old Aberdeen manager doing the same thing after winning the cup in 1983 v rangers. It's disgraceful all this mind games stuff. After all what did Alex Ferguson ever achieve after leaving Scotland? Him and Wilder are about the same when it comes to football management.
 
The passing was certainly below standard and we gave the ball up far too easily, often because the faulty pass was overambitious and poorly played.
However the character of the players was spot on and everyone kept going with positive passing, even if unsuccessful.
Even after Brooks scored there was no dropping back and trying to shut up shop.
This team IS the best we've ever had in terms of individual skill, attitude, positive intent, character and sheer bloody mindedness.
A great team on the pitch and great management in the dug-out :)
 
Thought he was a bit harsh to be fair.
Think he was spot on a actually we got a bit sloppy in 2ND half great win but Wilder knows we can do a lot better ,no better time to clamp down on any slacking when top of the league.
What's Leon Clarke on he worked his socks off again tonight.I used to think he was a waster ,that's history his work ethic is tremendous
 
Don't think it's psychological at all. We did give the ball away too much second half. Coutts ridiculous pass straight to their midfielder nearly cost us a goal.


Agree entirely. It was nothing to do with psychology but simply telling it like it was , and how any Blades fan being honest with them self should also have seen it.

For him to do that, in these circumstances, takes my admiration for him to an even higher level.

What a guy, and what a time to be a Blade.
 
It didn't help having such an out of touch ,joke of a ref.
6 players playing on yellows clearly frustrating and left those 6 unable to make a strong tackle.
While they pushed off the ball, elbowed , got away with diving.
Not to mention shortly after Coutts was given a yellow for a shirt pull they got away with an obvious red card challenge.
Whoever chose him to ref a derby should be sacked.
 
This daft twat IS EVEN MORE UPSET:

"Cmon leeds 5-1 will do me"

My boss (a devout pig) sent me an email yesterday titled ‘Marching on together’

Now I am not sure about anyone else but I always thought there were two types of Sheffield fans.

Those who don’t give a fuck who wins between the other half and Leeds and those who said they don’t give a fuck but want leeds to win but never said anything.

When the pigs beat Leeds I didn’t like it, but they beat Leeds.

I may be wrong.

Testing testing 1-2 1-2
 
Well the game should have been buried after 30 mins so CW is right to make the point at a time where it will stick in the players minds better to make point after a win than a defeat. a good point about the diving and cheating from Leeds who I thought were a set of dirty cunts in the end, they tried every trick in the book to get the win but were beaten by a better side. That said I thought they offered more than the pigs.
We got six bookings. They got two.
 
I think CW got it spot on. Coutts and others gave the ballaway too many times .O`Connell chose the wrong option a few times. Baldock was on his heels ball watching when they scored. These mistakes will cost us when we play better teams than Leeds. However lots to like as well. Keep going you wonderful, mighty Blades.

Good job there's only 3 teams better than Leeds then...and one of thems us :D
 
In his interview post match, Wilder says he thinks we were poor today. Second half maybe but first half we played some excellent football. A little bit tactical of Wilder to stop the players getting carried away at going top?
I can see why he was annoyed, we gave the ball away a lot, BUT we ground out a result from a poor performance... which is what champions do
 
In his interview post match, Wilder says he thinks we were poor today. Second half maybe but first half we played some excellent football. A little bit tactical of Wilder to stop the players getting carried away at going top?

No I don't think so. For one, Wilder doesn't do bullshit. For two, I think he's absolutely right.

I know that, for some folks, they don't see past the result. What I mean by that is, we can play crap but if we win then folks soon forget the bad bits. Similarly, we can play brilliant, but if we lose, folks soon forget that as well and just focus on the result.

What I saw last night was some very good football in the first half, but I thought we were not so great in the second half, by our own high standards. In fact, I was watching with the family, and I said at one point in the second half, we need to calm down a bit and get the ball down and start passing it better. Don't get me wrong, we were still very competitive, but I thought it was one of our weaker displays in that second half.

So, totally agree with Wilder on this. I don't think there's any psychology involved. He's just doing what he's done since he arrived here - and is telling it like it is.
 



I can see why he was annoyed, we gave the ball away a lot, BUT we ground out a result from a poor performance... which is what champions do
I was going to say something similar.

We fell some way short of our very high standards in the second half, but we (the fans) can’t expect to be completely playing teams off the park for 90 minutes every week. Also Leeds actually gave us a game. Just as we made them look poor in the first half, they made us look poor for periods of the second.

Biggest test so far. Away from home against a good side and not at our best with the score at 1-1, we had to dig in and battle. Even as we gave the ball away and made poor decisions we continued to fight for the second balls, defended properly and believed we could still find a winner.

Most significant result so far for me. Yet again we should have had the game won by half time, and I’m looking forward to the game when we bury someone in the first 30 minutes by actually taking our chances!
 
Wilder called it spot on. Too many of our players were guilty of giving the ball away cheaply in poor areas. The one by Coutts stands out, although I think that might have been his only one, but two of our most consistent performers this season, Fleck and JOC, gave poor balls away at least 3 or 4 times each. What is pleasing is like Punk Blade says, the teams defending and fight for the second ball meant that we still gave ourselves an opportunity to win the game.

That Lasogga spent all evening in Basham's pocket. I thought Bash overall was immense and Carter-Vickers also had one of his best games for us, both of them doing all that 'dirty' work to keep us in the game. Leon was fantastic too, I don't know what Wilder and Knill have done to him but his work rate at the moment is just phenomenal.
 
I can see why he was annoyed, we gave the ball away a lot, BUT we ground out a result from a poor performance... which is what champions do
That's the key grinding out results when not at your best.In my opinion Coutts and Fleck had poor games by there standards but put in a shift to make up for it .

Wilder takes the credit for preparing the team who give there all
 
Had time to reflect now and this is my take for what it’s worth.

CW called it right but I do think he employed some psychology too. He’s a bright bloke and knows that telling other teams we won at Elland Rd while playing poorly sends out a message to them. Keeps the players heads in the right place too.

We were excellent for thirty minutes and should have buried them but didn’t through some good goalkeeping and poor finishing. Last year that wouldn’t have mattered as we would have gone on to score three in the second half but this year teams are better and managers are better. They adapt quicker and are less likely to produce two poor halves in one game. Even the neighbours changed things and got back into the game at Hillsborough before Duffy pissed on their chips.

I thought for the first time we looked a little leggy. There’s some players that are going to need spelling. The Fleck ban might actually be a good thing and allow him some rest. I would suspect that there will be other players rested on Tuesday.

My overriding feeling though is to reflect how far we have come in such a short period of time that we are disappointed with winning away at Leeds without putting them to the sword. The season may well end up with nothing as the triple assault year did but it’s great fun anyway. I’m like a kid again when it comes to the team. Thinking about them all the time and can’t wait for the next game, whatever happens from here on in CW and AK have given me back my love of the game and I’m always going to be grateful and remember them and this team for that.
 
No I don't think so. For one, Wilder doesn't do bullshit. For two, I think he's absolutely right.

I know that, for some folks, they don't see past the result. What I mean by that is, we can play crap but if we win then folks soon forget the bad bits. Similarly, we can play brilliant, but if we lose, folks soon forget that as well and just focus on the result.

What I saw last night was some very good football in the first half, but I thought we were not so great in the second half, by our own high standards. In fact, I was watching with the family, and I said at one point in the second half, we need to calm down a bit and get the ball down and start passing it better. Don't get me wrong, we were still very competitive, but I thought it was one of our weaker displays in that second half.

So, totally agree with Wilder on this. I don't think there's any psychology involved. He's just doing what he's done since he arrived here - and is telling it like it is.
Exactly as I saw it cerb, as soon as a manager says something unexpected people say ah mind games, bollocks he just said what he and us saw, the funny thing is I thought it was our poorest display this season, not saying it was a bad performance just not as good as we are now used to and yet we actually created some of the best chances all season, mind you watching in a pub getting pissed is very, very enjoyable but you certainly don't see the game as clearly! Great morning though,better have another cuppa
 
No I don't think so. For one, Wilder doesn't do bullshit. For two, I think he's absolutely right.

I know that, for some folks, they don't see past the result. What I mean by that is, we can play crap but if we win then folks soon forget the bad bits. Similarly, we can play brilliant, but if we lose, folks soon forget that as well and just focus on the result.

What I saw last night was some very good football in the first half, but I thought we were not so great in the second half, by our own high standards. In fact, I was watching with the family, and I said at one point in the second half, we need to calm down a bit and get the ball down and start passing it better. Don't get me wrong, we were still very competitive, but I thought it was one of our weaker displays in that second half.

So, totally agree with Wilder on this. I don't think there's any psychology involved. He's just doing what he's done since he arrived here - and is telling it like it is.


Six bookings to 2 for the Dirties. Having been booked caused the players to be ultra careful. Perhaps putting the hand brake on and reducing the usual intensity
But a great win
 
I agree with Wilder, we were no where near as good as we have been this season. At times we struggled to string 5 passed together and resorted to a lot hoofing.
A lot of 50/50s we lost when usually we would win. Basic passing was bad and often inaccurate.

I thought it was a bad performance from us and Leeds could have won, we did well to win.

Cant understand how some people think that was the best performance of the season. I saw it as one of the worst if not THE worst of the season.

I smell Pork,the worst of the season,a 2-1 away win at Elland Road to send us to the top of the league,hoofing???

Worry about your own shit side languishing in midtable
 
I smell Pork,the worst of the season,a 2-1 away win at Elland Road to send us to the top of the league,hoofing???

Worry about your own shit side languishing in midtable
Maybe a bit harsh but he's not far off.

First 20 minutes was just frenetic and we went long, often losing possession but in areas where Leeds couldn't hurt us.

Then we started to play our game more but we were wasteful in the final third and didn't create anywhere near enough clear chances given the possession we had in dangerous areas. Then we got caught by a sucker punch and went in at 1-1 when we should have more or less closed the game out.

Second half first twenty was a proper rearguard action with Leeds all over us. Very resolute defending. If you saw what they did to Bristol City you could see what they were trying to do to us but we weren't having it. But we gave the ball away a bit too much which created more problems for us.

As the game progressed and we'd weathered the storm legs began to tire on both sides and the game became more open and more suited to our usual style. We started to boss them again and went on to break their hearts.

I've definitely seen us play better than that. But a lot was to do with the opposition being half successful in stopping us from playing. They sat on Coutts and Fleck a lot of the time, making it congested and stopping the pair from getting their passing game going. But that gave Duffy more space to work in. That's why we're hard to set up against, because you stop one 'key' player, or even two, and another couple step up instead, as Clarke and Duffy did.

We were perhaps 'fortunate' to get all three points but on the balance of play, we probably deserved it; all our players were up for it, some of theirs weren't, we had more chances and made their keeper work harder than ours and we had quality to bring off the bench.

All round, given it was a tough away game, a good performance but not the best football we've played by a long way.
 
Maybe a bit harsh but he's not far off.

First 20 minutes was just frenetic and we went long, often losing possession but in areas where Leeds couldn't hurt us.

Then we started to play our game more but we were wasteful in the final third and didn't create anywhere near enough clear chances given the possession we had in dangerous areas. Then we got caught by a sucker punch and went in at 1-1 when we should have more or less closed the game out.

Second half first twenty was a proper rearguard action with Leeds all over us. Very resolute defending. If you saw what they did to Bristol City you could see what they were trying to do to us but we weren't having it. But we gave the ball away a bit too much which created more problems for us.

As the game progressed and we'd weathered the storm legs began to tire on both sides and the game became more open and more suited to our usual style. We started to boss them again and went on to break their hearts.

I've definitely seen us play better than that. But a lot was to do with the opposition being half successful in stopping us from playing. They sat on Coutts and Fleck a lot of the time, making it congested and stopping the pair from getting their passing game going. But that gave Duffy more space to work in. That's why we're hard to set up against, because you stop one 'key' player, or even two, and another couple step up instead, as Clarke and Duffy did.

We were perhaps 'fortunate' to get all three points but on the balance of play, we probably deserved it; all our players were up for it, some of theirs weren't, we had more chances and made their keeper work harder than ours and we had quality to bring off the bench.

All round, given it was a tough away game, a good performance but not the best football we've played by a long way.
I thought Leeds were incredibly fortunate that they weren't 4-1 down at half time - but what do I know ;)
 
In previous interviews Wilder talks about performances in different THIRDS of the pitch.
He’s often talked about how impressive we are in the middle third (our midfield regularly run the show) but need to up our game in the defensive and particularly the attacking third.

However he did explain that against Leeds, in the defensive and attacking third we were decent
But in the middle third, we lost our way, especially in the 2nd half.
We normally control matches but there was a 20 minute spell in the 2nd half we’re we looked desperate and lost composure in midfield, this rarely happens.

Wilder is correct to criticise, we’ve set high standards, so arguably “it was a very average performance”.
 
Maybe a bit harsh but he's not far off.

First 20 minutes was just frenetic and we went long, often losing possession but in areas where Leeds couldn't hurt us.

Then we started to play our game more but we were wasteful in the final third and didn't create anywhere near enough clear chances given the possession we had in dangerous areas. Then we got caught by a sucker punch and went in at 1-1 when we should have more or less closed the game out.

Second half first twenty was a proper rearguard action with Leeds all over us. Very resolute defending. If you saw what they did to Bristol City you could see what they were trying to do to us but we weren't having it. But we gave the ball away a bit too much which created more problems for us.

As the game progressed and we'd weathered the storm legs began to tire on both sides and the game became more open and more suited to our usual style. We started to boss them again and went on to break their hearts.

I've definitely seen us play better than that. But a lot was to do with the opposition being half successful in stopping us from playing. They sat on Coutts and Fleck a lot of the time, making it congested and stopping the pair from getting their passing game going. But that gave Duffy more space to work in. That's why we're hard to set up against, because you stop one 'key' player, or even two, and another couple step up instead, as Clarke and Duffy did.

We were perhaps 'fortunate' to get all three points but on the balance of play, we probably deserved it; all our players were up for it, some of theirs weren't, we had more chances and made their keeper work harder than ours and we had quality to bring off the bench.

All round, given it was a tough away game, a good performance but not the best football we've played by a long way.

I think that's definitely an area we need to improve on, we have the ball and lots of possession in dangerous areas but are either quite wasteful of the final ball lacks quality,or they want to walk it in, I am being picky here but we must score 1 in every 7-8 really dangerous passages of play, improve that and we'll start to really kill teams off, I'd also like to see more shots outside the box.
 
They sat on Coutts and Fleck a lot of the time, making it congested and stopping the pair from getting their passing game going. But that gave Duffy more space to work in. That's why we're hard to set up against, because you stop one 'key' player, or even two, and another couple step up instead, as Clarke and Duffy did..

Totally agree.
In fact I think Duffy is one of our main weapons. He always seems to pop up finding space between midfield and attack. Also it’s easier said than done to sit on him and mark him out of the game because he has almost a free role (wandering all over the place) AND he’s an excellent dribbler, so even when marked up he can often go past his marker.
 
I think that's definitely an area we need to improve on, we have the ball and lots of possession in dangerous areas but are either quite wasteful of the final ball lacks quality,or they want to walk it in, I am being picky here but we must score 1 in every 7-8 really dangerous passages of play, improve that and we'll start to really kill teams off, I'd also like to see more shots outside the box.

Agree that’s one of our negative points, was the same last season too, we don’t score enough from all the danger we create.

Keep thinking if we had someone like Brian Deane up front we’d win this league with another 100 points tally.
 



I thought Leeds were incredibly fortunate that they weren't 4-1 down at half time - but what do I know ;)
It was very frustrating that we weren't. As I said, we should have more or less closed them out by half time.
 

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