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He needed time from the first 11 as he hadn't been doing enough, most players do from time to time. But he has come back absolutely on fire, just at the right time as Clarke has hit a barren spell. This is exactly what you need in a successful strike partnership, as the goals dry up for one striker, another steps up and vice versa. Occasionally both will hit form at the same time.

Good management from Wilder.
 
That's as superficial a statistic as I've ever seen.
 
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beatific blade said:
In what way is it superficial? I don't understand where you get that comment from.

Are you suggesting it's made up?
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There's this thing you can use if you don't understand the meaning of words, it's called a dictionary and they even have them on line.
The stat is superficial since it doesn't consider the opposition or the other players around Sharp both of which are big factors in whether a game is won or not.
 
Everyones looking for a championship 20- 30 goal a season striker.
But really what you need is two 15-20 goal strikers, which it looks like what we have. In a particular game Billy and/or Leon can draw a blank or be ineffective, but over a season they will both deliver.
 
8lade said:
There's this thing you can use if you don't understand the meaning of words, it's called a dictionary and they even have them on line.
The stat is superficial since it doesn't consider the opposition or the other players around Sharp both of which are big factors in whether a game is won or not.
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You serious?
 
Stretch said:
He needed time from the first 11 as he hadn't been doing enough, most players do from time to time. But he has come back absolutely on fire, just at the right time as Clarke has hit a barren spell. This is exactly what you need in a successful strike partnership, as the goals dry up for one striker, another steps up and vice versa. Occasionally both will hit form at the same time.

Good management from Wilder.
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I agree he needed a break from the first team but while he was having this break some of our fans were getting ready to pack his bags for the MLS. That is what pissed off the likes of me, Tyler and some others on here.

 
8lade said:
There's this thing you can use if you don't understand the meaning of words, it's called a dictionary and they even have them on line.
The stat is superficial since it doesn't consider the opposition or the other players around Sharp both of which are big factors in whether a game is won or not.
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I'll ignore the cunty first paragraph because the second answers my question. I see what you mean - I agree.
 
The Billy Sharp we had before Christmas was struggling somewhat but the Billy Sharp we replaced him with in the JTW is looking like an astute signing, especially as he was free!
 



8lade said:
There's this thing you can use if you don't understand the meaning of words, it's called a dictionary and they even have them on line.
The stat is superficial since it doesn't consider the opposition or the other players around Sharp both of which are big factors in whether a game is won or not.
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I see your point and u agree that it’s not an exact science, but over a period time, having a quality player or a proven goal scorer in a team will improve a team’s win percentages.

Would anybody question the facts if the guy on Twitter had done thecsame with Harry Kane at Spurs or Messie at Barcelona? I don’t think the fact that it’s ‘just’ Billy Sharp in the Championship affects the gist of the matter which is that all things being equal we’ve had better results with Billy Sharp in the side this season. If somebody wants to dissect it and prove he was playing against poorer teams with better teammates so be it.
 
beatific blade said:
I'll ignore the cunty first paragraph because the second answers my question. I see what you mean - I agree.
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I'm giving you a free education and you're rejecting it. Whose the cunt here then?
 
Esablade said:
Billy has never been fast and that’s more apparent as he gets older but boy can he finish!
Great game last night, hopefully more to come.
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It's true that Billy isn't fast in terms of covering a lot of ground in a short time, and in his second spell with us he was generally seen as a failure because he was told to do just that, with Beattie up front.

But - and it's a big but - Billy has extremely quick reactions, his first goal last night being a prime example. Which makes him a very good striker at this level. A goal that sticks in my mind came during that second spell when he scored a goal against Norwich at the Lane - the ball was pinging about in the six-yard box, with bodies everywhere, and as it somehow ricocheted to him he had a split-second to hit it, with virtually no backlift, and it was in the net. Not a spectacular goal but a great goal nonetheless.

Billy isn't the best Blades striker I've seen in over 60 years of support - in my opinion that honour goes to Mick Jones, with Brian Deane a close second - but he's well up there near the top and has scored some wonderful goals for us.
 
beatific blade said:
In what way is it superficial? I don't understand where you get that comment from.

Are you suggesting it's made up?
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I’ll answer for him...

For a stastic to be meaningful, there has to be a similar set of circumstances each time to be able to draw a definite conclusion.

The more variables there are, the less meaningful the conclusion.

So, allow me to explain further...

If football was played 1 v 1, rather than 11 v 11, the stat above would be 100% conclusive evidence that playing Billy Sharp leads to United winning more than when he’s not playing. (Because Billy’s effort would represent 100% of the team effort).

If it was played 2 v 2, the stat would be highly conclusive (because Billy’s effort would now represent approximately 50% of the team’s effort).

However, in an 11 man team his contribution represents approximately 9% of the team effort. On top of that, you then have different opposition in each game, different players around him on both sides, different officials, different weather conditions, etc., etc.

So, statistically it’s pretty meaningless actually. But at best, it may indicate what we call “a trend”. A trend is when the statistics aren’t strong enough to reach a firm conclusion, but there is a numerical argument in favour of.

I’d support that. But not as a reason why he should be picked every game.
 
grafikhaus said:
Season 2016/17
Starts: 28 W: 21 D: 7 L: 0
On as sub: 2 W: 2 D: 0 L: 0

Season 2017/18 (so far)
Starts: 11 W: 8 D: 1 L: 2
On as sub: 3 W: 1 D: 0 L: 2

'as it stopped snowing yet?
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Huge Jake wright fan but would love to know the stats when he has been taken off. Like at Hillsborough etc.

How many times has the lad been substituted?
 



I’m still baffled as to why he didn’t play against the pigs.. it was made for him to come on that night, shit decision from wilder..
 
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