JJ Sefton
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Smoking spliffs makes me happy but I doubt I could class the money spent on Moroccan Black as 'investment'.
Watching football in years gone by...
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Smoking spliffs makes me happy but I doubt I could class the money spent on Moroccan Black as 'investment'.
William Henry Foulkes
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Have you seen Dan Pink's talks on the Candle Problem (a TED all-time top 10 hit I think) and the RSA animation of his presentation on Autonomy, Mastery, and Purpose?
JJ Sefton
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I was too stoned.
itsinyerblood
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SEB, refer to Walthy's post #25, so in part he say it does represent investment. If there's a point at which it represents investment, then improving health surely contributes towards better productivity, which must be as good a definition of spending that improves/increases wealth at some future period?
William Henry Foulkes
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Redefining it to the point of meaninglessness is not what is being suggested.
Istm that 'investment' has a particular narrow technical definition. The quotes would indicate that.
I'm trying to keep up with this on an old phone so please excuse any tardiness.
William Henry Foulkes
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So you either accept this definition of 'investment', or question whether it's too narrow.
JJ Sefton
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You should invest in a new phone.
BornOnShorehamStreet
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Excellent, Walthy and thank you
SouthEssexBlade
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Aye, but if you're looking at it in purely academic terms, economists will always look at the motivation for the spending. If the main motivation is to see a return then it's investment. If the spending is to achieve something else and a possible knock-on effect might be some return they will still classify it as consumer spending. Health spending on a public system like ours is never done with the primary aim of creating a return, even though in the long term there may well be financial benefit.
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I started a thread about watching football in years gone by. 32 posts later, it's morphed into:
What a remarkable forum this is!
Anyway, back on topic. In the late 70s, a trip to those Northern shitholes such as Blackburn, Bolton, Burnley and Blackpool (nothing's changed, still shitholes) was scary indeed. The last three had 'shared' kops and the amount of 'hardware' - darts, half-bricks, pool balls etc. - that flew over the dividing barrier was unbelievable. I often wonder why more people weren't killed at football matches.
This reached its nadir in the early Seventies when Man. United were relegated to the second tier. With their travelling hordes let loose on small towns (and constabularies), the results were predictable and frightening.
Old Trafford had the first 'cages' erected around the pitch in England (I think). A pattern that reached its inevitable conclusion at Hillsborough in 1989.
Back to the Candle Problem...
What a remarkable forum this is!
Anyway, back on topic. In the late 70s, a trip to those Northern shitholes such as Blackburn, Bolton, Burnley and Blackpool (nothing's changed, still shitholes) was scary indeed. The last three had 'shared' kops and the amount of 'hardware' - darts, half-bricks, pool balls etc. - that flew over the dividing barrier was unbelievable. I often wonder why more people weren't killed at football matches.
This reached its nadir in the early Seventies when Man. United were relegated to the second tier. With their travelling hordes let loose on small towns (and constabularies), the results were predictable and frightening.
Old Trafford had the first 'cages' erected around the pitch in England (I think). A pattern that reached its inevitable conclusion at Hillsborough in 1989.
Back to the Candle Problem...
Silent Blade
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Don't knock the hole in the road before mobile phones (yes kids you can talk to people on the thing in the hall) I used to meet some of the harem in front or the fish tankAs a direct result of the 'Shoreham Republican Army' thread, I thought it might be an idea to nostagilise
When I read about 'standing areas', 'singing zones', smoke bombs' etc. I can help but think how the game, and society, has changed. Hopefully it'll be similar to Blades Tales. Most of the stories will be in the 'you had to be there' category. So indulge us, young 'uns. Think of it as asking 'What did you do in the war,dad?'
I'm not going to kick off with any specific incident, but to 'paint a picture' of life in the aforementioned years. Although the war had been over for more than 40 years, there were still plenty of 'bomb sites' around Sheffield. The Moor had been bombed and they never got round to properly rebuilding it. Most of the 'shops' were like the dummy towns in Western films - a frontage and fuck all behind it.
Above all, I remember how England in general - and Sheffield in particular - was fucking loppy. The buses stank of stale smoke, everywhere in the city centre resembled the Castle Market area (shitty), the Peace Gardens were the hangout for winos and the 'Hole in the Road' was just grim.
It was against this 'This Is England' atmosphere that we made our way down to Pnd Street bus station (via Cinicenta etc.) to pay a few quid to go on the Sheffield United Tours coach to the next away game...
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Cyprus Blade
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ahh memories
William Henry Foulkes
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Don't knock the hole in the road before mobile phones (yes kids you can talk to people on the thing in the hall) I used to meet some of the harem in front or the fish tank
Weren't they piranhas in there? That's what we believed anyway.
And just behind the best store on the world c & a
Mind you anybody buy their threads from Jonathan silvers? ?
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I think we've all been in situations like that. There seemed to be a lot less respect for the cops back then. United's kop was home to young blokes wearing bush jackets (bought from Wakefield's Army Stores on t'Moor) with 'United' slogans felt-tipped on the back. 'Banners' made of spray-painted bed-sheets and supported by lengths of four bi two wood (!) were often seen. The crowds were much smaller than nowadays (United often got 12-14k even in the top flight) and rucks were 'manufactured' to make the cops steam in.
When this happened, you could usually see the cops' helmets flying in the air and a copper would eventually emerge at the back of the kop dragging some unfortunate out (usually somebody who happened to be in the vicinity). The coppers would be absolutely drenched from head to foot in 'gob'.
Happy days? Certainly not, but probably unbelievable to the younger fan of today.
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That's mint, Walthy. My Great-Grandad was born in 1889 too - I've forwarded the PDF onto my Dad, I'm sure it'll resonate with him. Thanks chief.
JJ Sefton
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I remember the fishtank and wondering if they took the fish out before they filled it in.
SouthEssexBlade
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Don't knock the hole in the road before mobile phones (yes kids you can talk to people on the thing in the hall) I used to meet some of the harem in front or the fish tank
Ah yes. The fishtank, corner door of Rackhams and outside the Penny Black. Where the term 'meat rack' was coined.
Cyprus Blade
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""Half of the fish belonged to the attendant so on the day of reckoning the wild fish were let into the rivers of the keeper's favourite fishing spots and the domestic fish he took back home with him to his own tank. "
JJ Sefton
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Phew!
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JJ Sefton
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We went round Sam Smith's pubs, cheap at £3.40 a pint.
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