View From Wilder

[Bartyblade]

If McNulty and others are not doing as they are told it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall behind the scenes to understand how it is explained to them what they are supposed to do and how its extensively practised and put into place.

I've seen many of Wilder's interviews now and they all remind me of some of the not so good teachers at school who would tell you to do something without explaining it properly or practicing it and they would then get angry with me and tell me I'm thick when it didn't work out. After a while I'd just ignore them and do my own thing.

The better teachers at school would explain we are trying to go from A to B, this is the theory you need to understand, these are steps involved and now we are going to practice each step until you are good at them then stick it them all together over and over again. If I got it right there was praise, if not we'd practice the dodgy bits until I got it right. There would be praise to motivate when needed. I loved those teachers and they got the best out of me and I did my best for them.

Take corners for example. Every game we have about 10 corners but how many times do we ever look like scoring from one. What evidence is there of the players have been taken through the good teacher approach, having a plan, learning all the steps each should take, practicing it to death and then doing it on the pitch. None. We just hear the team being criticised by Wilder for not scoring enough goals and not doing as they're told.

My suspicion, and it is only a suspicion, is the players are just being told what to do without the good teacher stuff and enough practice behind the scenes and after a while the players just ignore it and do their own thing.

But won't he have been doing that all season, not just the last few games?

 

[Greenwich Blade]

If McNulty and others are not doing as they are told it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall behind the scenes to understand how it is explained to them what they are supposed to do and how its extensively practised and put into place.

I've seen many of Wilder's interviews now and they all remind me of some of the not so good teachers at school who would tell you to do something without explaining it properly or practicing it and they would then get angry with me and tell me I'm thick when it didn't work out. After a while I'd just ignore them and do my own thing.

The better teachers at school would explain we are trying to go from A to B, this is the theory you need to understand, these are steps involved and now we are going to practice each step until you are good at them then stick it them all together over and over again. If I got it right there was praise, if not we'd practice the dodgy bits until I got it right. There would be praise to motivate when needed. I loved those teachers and they got the best out of me and I did my best for them.

Take corners for example. Every game we have about 10 corners but how many times do we ever look like scoring from one. What evidence is there of the players have been taken through the good teacher approach, having a plan, learning all the steps each should take, practicing it to death and then doing it on the pitch. None. We just hear the team being criticised by Wilder for not scoring enough goals and not doing as they're told.

My suspicion, and it is only a suspicion, is the players are just being told what to do without the good teacher stuff and enough practice behind the scenes and after a while the players just ignore it and do their own thing.

Miss Johnson, my old maths teacher, always came across badly in TV and radio interviews. Fucking rubbish teacher too.

 

[blackydog]

I agree with the bit about giving him an opportunity as once Hanson has trained with us McNulty's chances will be fewer. What I'm curious to know, and we probably never will, is why; did CW see something in training? Did senior players tell him McNulty should be given a chance, that he was harshly treated by the Nigels? Did the board question his handling of McNulty?

As I say, just a thought, whilst trying to fathom out why CW would make such a change. Maybe Chris is wondering today why he did it? We've all had 'what the fuck was I thinking' moments.

His last chance to give McNulty a chance before the end of January. Could go off on loan now somewhere and reduce wage bill a bit.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Roygbiv

Ta.

 

[finlaytheblade]

If McNulty and others are not doing as they are told it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall behind the scenes to understand how it is explained to them what they are supposed to do and how its extensively practised and put into place.

I've seen many of Wilder's interviews now and they all remind me of some of the not so good teachers at school who would tell you to do something without explaining it properly or practicing it and they would then get angry with me and tell me I'm thick when it didn't work out. After a while I'd just ignore them and do my own thing.

The better teachers at school would explain we are trying to go from A to B, this is the theory you need to understand, these are steps involved and now we are going to practice each step until you are good at them then stick it them all together over and over again. If I got it right there was praise, if not we'd practice the dodgy bits until I got it right. There would be praise to motivate when needed. I loved those teachers and they got the best out of me and I did my best for them.

Take corners for example. Every game we have about 10 corners but how many times do we ever look like scoring from one. What evidence is there of the players have been taken through the good teacher approach, having a plan, learning all the steps each should take, practicing it to death and then doing it on the pitch. None. We just hear the team being criticised by Wilder for not scoring enough goals and not doing as they're told.

My suspicion, and it is only a suspicion, is the players are just being told what to do without the good teacher stuff and enough practice behind the scenes and after a while the players just ignore it and do their own thing.

No chance south Bucks Wilder is very strong on preparation just that the opposition are well prepared also.just have to keep doing it right
Waiting for a slip in the opposition ranks it, does happen but infrequently

 

[Woodwardfan]

How fickle some fans, and how quickly they can turn on a manager.

Nothing at all wrong with that interview. The point about the players hearing them cheer is that it should anger his players and make them want to put it right. Wilder has also been critical of players not taking chances and not shooting from outside the box. Hence the return of McNulty, and arrival of others who will.
That lack of taking chances builds pressure on defenders and gives encouragement and confidence to opponents.

Now, grow a fucking pair, back your team, back your manager and get on with supporting this lot to winning the league.

Oh dear, I've lost 3 days, it must be Friday.

 

[Grappler]

Miss Johnson, my old maths teacher, always came across badly in TV and radio interviews. Fucking rubbish teacher too.

Me, Miss Foster, Mistletoe, that's all I will say on the matter........

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Me, Miss Foster, Mistletoe, that's all I will say on the matter........

Trust me, with Miss Johnson the barge pole off of which to hang the mistletoe could never be too long.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

CW didnt get it right last night.

1) He needs to start making better use of Riley. When a team comes to the lane and are difficult to break down- we need players to get beyond - Riley can do this.

2) Thought it was a mistake to go with McNulty - not done anything at Bradford to justify walking back into our first team. Although Lavery missed a chance against Gillingham - he actually played well in that game - and didnt deserve to be dropped.

3) After failing against Walsall and Gillingham - our defence needed Jake Wright back in - to bring leadership and organisation - just like after the first 4 games, to steady the ship. Wright should have started last night - and he didnt appear at all.

I do think CW will sort it though. I was never confident Adkins would.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Regardless of Manager/Club, i'm not too struck on public criticism of individual players.

 

[PeteBlade]

People getting themselves in a tizzy about post match interviews again.

It meant fuck all when Nigel did them and it means fuck all now.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Regardless of Manager/Club, i'm not too struck on public criticism of individual players.

On that, it's noticeable of late that Wilder has referred to missed chances for strikers by name (he even mentioned Clarke in that, who wasn't even in the squad), but hasn't done that for any of the defenders. It's not "that was error by Ethan for the 2nd goal" it's the more removed "it's and individual error for the 2nd".

He'll have his reasons for that, and I suspect it's down to the mentality of the players concerned. I suspect all of the strikers are big personalities have been constantly on at Wilder to be given a chance, and therefore Wilder is fine taking them down a peg if they are wasting the chances he gives them. He's in contrast tried to deflect pressure aimed at the defence, possibly because all three players are confidence players that need a more delicate approach. I don't think he seriously believes that their performances are acceptable, but he'll be going about motivating them to suit their personalities. Fire the strikers up by showing any one of them can get a chance if the others aren't performing, and rebuild the confidence of the defence by showing he's not going to punish their errors.

I speculate this is why. Unfortunately, whatever the reasons are they don't appear to be having the desired effect...

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Wonder if the public criticism after Gillingham had any effect on the players last night?

Guardiola, in my opinion, gets it right when being asked about his players, especially after poor results.

Deflects the pressure off the players and onto him...