Blades v Saints v Disney – Season Endgame Graphs

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As many will have read, I posted a set of results for the remainder of our games that would lead to a 75-point final total, which is likely to be the minimum for 6th place this season. This led to the usual assault from the doomsayers, who seem to regard any level of optimism as a capital offence! I have always tried to emphasise that these are not predictions, but simply a benchmark against which we can compare our progress.

One thing that is true, is that our progress is irrelevant if it isn’t compared to that of our closest rivals. I have, therefore, created a similar set of benchmark results (Table 1) for Wrexham and Southampton, which also lead to a 75 point finish for them. Again, I would emphasise that these are not predictions, just something against which to monitor progress. 75 points is a highly optimistic goal for us - and a fairly pessimistic goal for Wrexham and Southampton – but by monitoring the forecast change in final totals, as the actual results replace the benchmark results, we will see clearly how our chances are developing.

Table 1:
Pre Matchday 36 Playoff Benchmark Points.webp


Graph 1
shows the full season, with actual results and benchmark forecasts for all 3 of us. It is interesting that, despite our bad start to the season, we were within 2 points of Wrexham after our Birmingham game, and just 1 point behind Saints from games 25 to 30 for both of us. (Remember that the graph shows points after the same number of games – not at the same moment in time.)

Graph 1:
Matchday 35 Blades v Saints v Wrexham Graph.webp


Graph 2
is the one that I will continue to post each week, as the actual results replace the benchmarks. This will then show our progress against the benchmarks, and the resulting changes in the forecast totals for the 3 teams. (Should Hull drop down to be level or below 6th place, I will bring them into the comparison).

Graph 2:
Matchday 35 Onwards Playoff Forecasts.webp


Incidentally, in the unlikely event that we did all finish on 75 points, we would probably still only be 8th – as our goal difference is unlikely to close the gap, unless we deliver a thrashing or two to somebody!

UTB & Slava Ukraini!
 



I only just noticed Wrexham have 8 away and just 4 at home left
last 2 games v coventry and boro and a big swansea derby away

Blades have 6 at home 5 away
Saints, the same as weve got
 
I only just noticed Wrexham have 8 away and just 4 at home left
last 2 games v coventry and boro and a big swansea derby away

Blades have 6 at home 5 away
Saints, the same as weve got
It’s wrong Wrexham have 5 at home & 6 away

Home
Hull , Swansea , Southampton, Stoke & Boro

Away
Watford , Blades , West Brom , Brum , Oxford , Coventry
 
You've got Wrexham away at Swansea GraphMan, and it’s a Wrexham home game. You’ve got Wrexham winning it anyway, though!

Otherwise 9 out of 10!

Looking forward to seeing Graph 2 progressing.

UTB & FTP!
 
As many will have read, I posted a set of results for the remainder of our games that would lead to a 75-point final total, which is likely to be the minimum for 6th place this season. This led to the usual assault from the doomsayers, who seem to regard any level of optimism as a capital offence! I have always tried to emphasise that these are not predictions, but simply a benchmark against which we can compare our progress.

One thing that is true, is that our progress is irrelevant if it isn’t compared to that of our closest rivals. I have, therefore, created a similar set of benchmark results (Table 1) for Wrexham and Southampton, which also lead to a 75 point finish for them. Again, I would emphasise that these are not predictions, just something against which to monitor progress. 75 points is a highly optimistic goal for us - and a fairly pessimistic goal for Wrexham and Southampton – but by monitoring the forecast change in final totals, as the actual results replace the benchmark results, we will see clearly how our chances are developing.

Table 1:
View attachment 232464


Graph 1
shows the full season, with actual results and benchmark forecasts for all 3 of us. It is interesting that, despite our bad start to the season, we were within 2 points of Wrexham after our Birmingham game, and just 1 point behind Saints from games 25 to 30 for both of us. (Remember that the graph shows points after the same number of games – not at the same moment in time.)

Graph 1:
View attachment 232465


Graph 2
is the one that I will continue to post each week, as the actual results replace the benchmarks. This will then show our progress against the benchmarks, and the resulting changes in the forecast totals for the 3 teams. (Should Hull drop down to be level or below 6th place, I will bring them into the comparison).

Graph 2:
View attachment 232466


Incidentally, in the unlikely event that we did all finish on 75 points, we would probably still only be 8th – as our goal difference is unlikely to close the gap, unless we deliver a thrashing or two to somebody!

UTB & Slava Ukraini!

Love your predictions 👍
 
As many will have read, I posted a set of results for the remainder of our games that would lead to a 75-point final total, which is likely to be the minimum for 6th place this season. This led to the usual assault from the doomsayers, who seem to regard any level of optimism as a capital offence! I have always tried to emphasise that these are not predictions, but simply a benchmark against which we can compare our progress.

One thing that is true, is that our progress is irrelevant if it isn’t compared to that of our closest rivals. I have, therefore, created a similar set of benchmark results (Table 1) for Wrexham and Southampton, which also lead to a 75 point finish for them. Again, I would emphasise that these are not predictions, just something against which to monitor progress. 75 points is a highly optimistic goal for us - and a fairly pessimistic goal for Wrexham and Southampton – but by monitoring the forecast change in final totals, as the actual results replace the benchmark results, we will see clearly how our chances are developing.

Table 1:
View attachment 232464


Graph 1
shows the full season, with actual results and benchmark forecasts for all 3 of us. It is interesting that, despite our bad start to the season, we were within 2 points of Wrexham after our Birmingham game, and just 1 point behind Saints from games 25 to 30 for both of us. (Remember that the graph shows points after the same number of games – not at the same moment in time.)

Graph 1:
View attachment 232465


Graph 2
is the one that I will continue to post each week, as the actual results replace the benchmarks. This will then show our progress against the benchmarks, and the resulting changes in the forecast totals for the 3 teams. (Should Hull drop down to be level or below 6th place, I will bring them into the comparison).

Graph 2:
View attachment 232466


Incidentally, in the unlikely event that we did all finish on 75 points, we would probably still only be 8th – as our goal difference is unlikely to close the gap, unless we deliver a thrashing or two to somebody!

UTB & Slava Ukraini!
We'll lose at Norwich and maybe get 2 or 3 points against Brum and Wrexham
You can let it go then
 
GraphMan -
Hull lost to Ipswich tonight, and are now just 3 points above Wrexham after 35 games.

Hull have quite a tough schedule - so I think you should include them on future Graph 2’s, which will then show the race for both 5th and 6th places.

UTB & FTP!
 



This led to the usual assault from the doomsayers, who seem to regard any level of optimism as a capital offence!

And still they come!!
Well done and thanks for this mate.
I think a fair summary, if I may, would be along the lines of 'It's looking highly unlikely and if I was a betting man would bet against us. It will still be interesting to follow though, if only to see how things unfold in reality, how far we can take it, and at what point it came to an end'
For those negative nellies getting on UCDM's back, give him a break eh?
He's not putting his mortgage on it happening, or predicting that we will.
I'm sure he's as aware as you are of the probability of it happening, just as the Wednesday fans were after losing 4-0 at Peterborough...

Thanks again mate. I will watch with interest.

Still can't believe you think we'll go the rest of the season undefeated though!! 😂 ;)
 
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As many will have read, I posted a set of results for the remainder of our games that would lead to a 75-point final total, which is likely to be the minimum for 6th place this season. This led to the usual assault from the doomsayers, who seem to regard any level of optimism as a capital offence! I have always tried to emphasise that these are not predictions, but simply a benchmark against which we can compare our progress.

One thing that is true, is that our progress is irrelevant if it isn’t compared to that of our closest rivals. I have, therefore, created a similar set of benchmark results (Table 1) for Wrexham and Southampton, which also lead to a 75 point finish for them. Again, I would emphasise that these are not predictions, just something against which to monitor progress. 75 points is a highly optimistic goal for us - and a fairly pessimistic goal for Wrexham and Southampton – but by monitoring the forecast change in final totals, as the actual results replace the benchmark results, we will see clearly how our chances are developing.

Table 1:
View attachment 232464


Graph 1
shows the full season, with actual results and benchmark forecasts for all 3 of us. It is interesting that, despite our bad start to the season, we were within 2 points of Wrexham after our Birmingham game, and just 1 point behind Saints from games 25 to 30 for both of us. (Remember that the graph shows points after the same number of games – not at the same moment in time.)

Graph 1:
View attachment 232465


Graph 2
is the one that I will continue to post each week, as the actual results replace the benchmarks. This will then show our progress against the benchmarks, and the resulting changes in the forecast totals for the 3 teams. (Should Hull drop down to be level or below 6th place, I will bring them into the comparison).

Graph 2:
View attachment 232466


Incidentally, in the unlikely event that we did all finish on 75 points, we would probably still only be 8th – as our goal difference is unlikely to close the gap, unless we deliver a thrashing or two to somebody!

UTB & Slava Ukraini!
Would make May 2nd an interesting day !!
 
Good work on putting it together but it really brings into focus how much brainfarts have cost us this season. Beat Charlton, get a draw against Boro and properly paste Wendy at home and we're breathing right down their necks with a favourable run in.

Red cards have arguably had a bigger impact on our season that Selles.
 
I only just noticed Wrexham have 8 away and just 4 at home left
last 2 games v coventry and boro and a big swansea derby away

Blades have 6 at home 5 away
Saints, the same as weve got

Pushing it a little too far to call Swansea v Wrexham a 'derby'. - 142 miles.

This weekend we've got a 'Battle of Bramall Lane' derby. Only 98 miles separate the two teams.
 
Imo we’ll hit some consistency and form and then the season will have gone and we’ll have run out of games, I can’t see us getting to 75 points though
 
Not going to happen, plan for next season. It will be tough, Wrexham & Birmingham will get stronger. Wolves, Burnley & West Ham/ Forest will all be up there. The best we can realistically hope for is play-offs.

The annoying thing is this season was there for the taking, hence why Coventry & Middlesborough are up there despite not being that great.
 
Not going to happen, plan for next season. It will be tough, Wrexham & Birmingham will get stronger. Wolves, Burnley & West Ham/ Forest will all be up there. The best we can realistically hope for is play-offs.

The annoying thing is this season was there for the taking, hence why Coventry & Middlesborough are up there despite not being that great.

So maybe we should aim for a promotion push the season after next when Coventry and Boro get relegated fron the Prem ;)
 

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