VAR VAR

[Woodwardfan]

It looks like it to me.....

Why does that matter?

 

[SwissBlade]

That’s either an urban myth or it’s been missold

Every goal is checked, if there’s an offside involved however slight it will be disallowed

Clear and obvious seems to be applicable to stockley Park when they see fit... Van Dyks handball?

 

[SwissBlade]

Said this earlier in Shoutbox.

VAR official sponsor : The big six.

Cant be coincidence now. Can it ??

Well played boys today.

UTB

Am I thick, but what is the big 6?

 

[ThatJa]

Each goal is reviewed, on review they think it is clearly and obviously offside, even though it is close and would have been allowed last year.

So they disallow it

As I said above, if you are doing CLEAR and OBVIOUS decisions, you don't need a fucking ruler and some lines.

If you do, its NOT clear and obvious.

 

[Bladesman]

VAR pretty much gifted Liverpool and City their wins today.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Why does that matter?

Great ball from deep..... Loved it......

 

[Carlton Blade]

It's made the best game I the world embarrassing to watch.

 

[Headshrinker]

Mousset was not in his own half which is what matters in this instance.

 

[ThatJa]

Let's put our own house in order before bemoaning our bad luck again. If Mousset isn't scared of getting kicked in the face for his header then uses his left foot in the one on one we get a different result. I abhor VAR as much as the next person but it's the same end result for all teams. Disappointing end result but thought we gave it a real go and played to a plan that nearly worked.

This is a joke right?

 

[riselikeasalmon]

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Flecky not hit that from our half???

might be wrong but I thought it is the receiving player who isn't offside if they are in their own half, don't think it makes a diff if the passer is, that was the original point I guess to stop long balls up to goal hangers, not players who have long toes

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

That’s either an urban myth or it’s been missold

Every goal is checked, if there’s an offside involved however slight it will be disallowed

That's the problem - the offside law was designed to stop players gaining unfair advantage and if you're level with the last defender, you're onside. The interpretation of what is level is this issue and I'm afraid the fact we have dangly bits (arms, feet etc) means that there has to be a better definition of what is deemed to be level with play. Position of feet and/or position of torso relevant to other player, maybe? And finally, the final decision has to made by the ref on he field of play who can see (Lundstram) if, in a very tight decision, the offside player has attempted to NOT gain unfair advantage

 

[Antonb]

VAR is the worse thing thats ever happened to the game of football

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Am I thick, but what is the big 6?

Keep tellin ar lass it's the big 6.

 

[gordoncharles]

The core principles of VAR were reiterated. These are minimum interference for maximum benefit, maintaining the pace and tempo of Premier League football and correcting clear and obvious on-field errors.

Premier League statement on VAR

Implementation of VAR discussed at Shareholders' meeting where League and PGMOL commit to improvements

www.premierleague.com

I'll let you be the judge of if it's a myth or missold...

From the press release you've quoted

"Last season match officials achieved 82 per cent KMI accuracy.With VAR this accuracy has risen to 91 per cent this season"

So, that's an alleged 10% increase in supposed accuracy of whatever the fuck "Key Match Indicators" are.

This is what's known as a Phyrric victory.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

That's the problem - the offside law was designed to stop players gaining unfair advantage and if you're level with the last defender, you're onside. The interpretation of what is level is this issue and I'm afraid the fact we have dangly bits (arms, feet etc) means that there has to be a better definition of what is deemed to be level with play. Position of feet and/or position of torso relevant to other player, maybe? And finally, the final decision has to made by the ref on he field of play who can see (Lundstram) if, in a very tight decision, the offside player has attempted to NOT gain unfair advantage

Like Souness's suggestion, turn it on its head.

If any part is onside then it's not offside.

 

[Cheesebored]

This is a joke right?

No.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

From the press release you've quoted

"Last season match officials achieved 82 per cent KMI accuracy.With VAR this accuracy has risen to 91 per cent this season"

So, that's an alleged 10% increase in supposed accuracy of whatever the fuck "Key Match Indicators" are.

This is what's known as a Phyrric victory.

Horseshit in these parts.

 

[IMABLADE]

This is a step too far.
It’s a joke.
We can’t just stand and watch it ruin the sport
Start booong the premier league anthem.
Sing fuck var through out
Time to make a stand, because it’s gone too far.
Time to get rid of VAR

 

[brownie4583]

Var is a joke,your body and feet can be behind the defender but if your hand is in front of the defender you’re offside???
It’s killing the game it’s ridiculous

 

[NotTheSharpest]

So this VAR thing was brought in to please the media types as it would help sell the entertainment across the world....hmmmm?

I have lived overseas for 20 years and I and a like minded group have religiously got together to watch United games as well as Premier League games over a beer or two for all of that time. But not any more.....

At the start of this season there were 8 of us, by the last weekend just 2.

The reason for the decline is VAR. it is just not the enjoyable experience it used to be. Not being able to celebrate a goal for your team or even as a neutral in a game you don’t have a stake in. We just wait for VAR to get involved, pop to the bar or use the facilities knowing we have a few minutes to kill. All engagement in the game is lost!

Better now to just look at the results in the morning and then decide if we want to watch the highlights.

I really feel for those of you who get to watch the games live. Apart from the joy of watching the Blades go toe to toe with the Premier League heavyweights you don’t have the replays or commentators to let you know what is happening during the reviews and have to suffer through the silence.

The VAR show is not working!!

 

[Tickhillblade]

VAR - reffing a billion pound industry with equipment from the 90s.

 

[Roygbiv]

I'm finished with it. I want to be able to celebrate a goal again. There are no positives to it as our officials aren't good enough to use it to good effect. We need a proper protest now. Things have gone too far. The fans, players and managers hate it and The Premier League should be embarrassed at how much if a fuck up they've made of it.

 

[Chicken with no head]

Some great posts on this thread and probably put into context all the incidents in today's games.

There is work to be done on the offside rule and that's generally accepted but I do have a feeling that defenders are a bit exposed by the current rule which is far more generous than the previous rule it replaced - previously the forward was ifoffside if level and that means the controversial armpits and toenails are actually a body and a bit beyond where they previously were allowed. The game was great before and after the rule change and it made the games more open






The Liverpool incidents were well handled and correct and so were ours.

Yes I am happy and proud but a little disappointed that we didn't score today, like we deserved to.

if VAR IS correct I need to see the length of the players toenails and a clear 1/2 mm line across the pitch to be exact to be sure it’s the correct decision

 

[SwissBlade]

This is a step too far.
It’s a joke.
We can’t just stand and watch it ruin the sport
Start booong the premier league anthem.
Sing fuck var through out
Time to make a stand, because it’s gone too far.
Time to get rid of VAR

There’s a premier league anthem????

 

[cahill]

The most bonkers one of the season so far (and that's a fierce competition):

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Pukki's second against Spurs, ruled out for the recently introduced offence of being NEARLY BUT NOT QUITE offside. Even when we're not playing VAR is conspiring against us by helping our Champions League rivals.

That is just effin bonkers

 

[Game_of_Throw-Ins]

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Like Souness's suggestion, turn it on its head.

If any part is onside then it's not offside.

Well that's true!

 

[Stretch]

might be wrong but I thought it is the receiving player who isn't offside if they are in their own half, don't think it makes a diff if the passer is, that was the original point I guess to stop long balls up to goal hangers, not players who have long toes

That was my understanding of it too, but like you happy to be told otherwise.

 

[Game_of_Throw-Ins]

Did VAR check this ?

 

[Chicken with no head]

if VAR IS correct I need to see the length of the players toenails and a clear 1/2 mm line across the pitch to be exact to be sure it’s the correct decision

Actually not 1/2 mm it’s got to be 1/1000000000 if it’s correctly implemented