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I'm absolutely gutted. I once again jumped round the house screaming thinking we scored. Only to have my hopes dashed.

Unfortunately, I suppose they have to give these decisions now, as would be inconsistent with the season so far. I feel they need to go back to the drawing board and rethink this shambles during the January windows.
 
I'm very happy to say I'm a fan of VAR for offsides. Offside is a yes/no call based on trigonometry. You can be four yards offside. You can be four mm offside. You are offside. The technology works it out for you. I know there's a dick swinging contest to prove who is the Biggest Celebrator & it's being ruined. But, I'm outside that game.....
Pukki ... Offside there ... I'd be appalled if he'd scored that against us & it was allowed.
Sorry but a fucking cock hair or a toe end offside?
Get fucked.
 
The problem for me with tiny fraction var offsides is that the attacking player can't tell if their offside or not. It's not like there trying to gain an advantage , the players are trying to be level but have no hope unless they hang well back.
 
Is that 7 chalked off for us? Answers now please as i am having a debate with a snorter.
 
If VAR is here to stay then the offside law will have to change and give the advantage to the defender again. It is no longer possible to be 'level'. As no two human silhouettes are identical, the attacker will always have toenail, nasal hair or genital wart beyond the line.
 
Is that 7 chalked off for us? Answers now please as i am having a debate with a snorter.
I think it’s 6. Didsy @ spurs, 2 @ Brighton, McBurnie against Southampton, that Fleck one against Watford, is there another?
 
VAR is absolute rubbish.....but there's an easy fix if the powers that be insist upon it.

Let it start and end with the referee.

If he and the linesman have given a decision, whistles gone, its made and the game continues. If he's not sure about something, he draws the square in the air and asks to check something. Then and only then does the VAR bunker or whatever the hell it is gets involved, not the other way round.

They should be looking for reasons TO award goals, not reasons to chalk them off because funnily enough, we dont like forking out to watch 0-0 draws
Exactly. The problem is that the Lundstram and Mousset offsides were not only marginal, but the two players were attempting NOT to gain unfair advantage if you watch the replays back.
Even with VAR, the on-pitch ref HAS to be the final arbiter IMO
They are adhering to the absolute letter of the law and not the spirit of the law
 
If VAR was a person, I'd report them for daylight robbery, kidnap and vandalism.

Robbing teams left and right, holding the game hostage and damaging key elements of football like celebrating a brilliant facking goal!
 
If the asst ref had flagged offside would that be the death of football or do you object to var making correct decisions?

I hate it but if it highlights the ridiculous offside laws and leads to changes in them then it will have been worth it

VAR was brought in to stop clear and obvious errors.

You dont need lines and rulers to see a clear or obvious error....
 
20cm is an obvious misquote if you think about it

People who are whining about the Pukki offside - this is nothing to do with "clear and obvious", as Phil says, it's matter of fact. If you want that allowed, do you also want that "goal" that Liverpool had disallowed against City last season that cost them the title to have counted? That's as close, if not closer, as the Pukki offside, but because it's not given by VAR you're fine with it?
Who said anyone is fine with fucking anything?
We're on about wankers sat lording it as fans curse in the rain.
Five minutes before you can celebrate a fucking goal.
A Ponce in a black jacket making window signs like a fucking ballerina then behaving like the officious twat he undoubtedly is to piss on someone's dinner.
The whole thing is an utter fucking joke.
 
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I think the margin for error thing comes with the inadequate 50fps that the cameras run at.
Pukkis goal was an incredible piece of skill exquisitely timed and executed, VAR could well end up costing Norwich a cool £100m.
And some fucking parasite sat somewhere, has caused that.
 

Obvs, I understand that people may disagree with the law/rule. But, the VAR technology is implementing the law/rule. The so called Armpit is the law/rule in Sunday League Pub Football & the FIFA World Cup Final. Sheffield United have one of twenty votes at the Premier League table. And the outcome of that vote is the Premier League agreeing to use VAR. There is no external, it's them over there, Bogeyman. The Premier League is the Clubs. It's "us".

Video decisions are here to stay. You can't turn back time. The referee's whistle didn't used to have a pea in it......
Oh for fucks sake.....
 
Who said anyone is fine with fucking anything?
We're on about wankers sat lording it as fans curse in the rain.
Five minutes before you can celebrate a fucking goal.
A Ponce in a black jacket making window signs like a fucking ballerina then behaving like the officious twat he undoubtedly is to piss on someone's dinner.
The whole thing is an utter fucking joke.

Phil's happy, he's on a hattrick.
 
Timely bump.
First VAR check for referee interference too. Surprise surprise not in our favour.
 
If the asst ref had flagged offside would that be the death of football or do you object to var making correct decisions?

I hate it but if it highlights the ridiculous offside laws and leads to changes in them then it will have been worth it

Like I said elsewhere, horseshit.
 
Overheard as the players were getting off the bus this afternoon:
Mousset: oh f@rk, I’ve forgotten my boots!
Lundstram: Don’t worry, you can borrow mine
 
That’s either an urban myth or it’s been missold

Every goal is checked, if there’s an offside involved however slight it will be disallowed

The core principles of VAR were reiterated. These are minimum interference for maximum benefit, maintaining the pace and tempo of Premier League football and correcting clear and obvious on-field errors.


I'll let you be the judge of if it's a myth or missold...
 
I think it’s 6. Didsy @ spurs, 2 @ Brighton, McBurnie against Southampton, that Fleck one against Watford, is there another?
I thought it was 4 (now 5) given as a goal on-field then ruled out by VAR. The Watford goal was given offside on-field and then confirmed by VAR.
 

When I started watching football and for years a goal was celebrated by the scorer turning back, walking back to his own half and a few handshakes on the way.

The players probably cared more than the current mercenaries, certainly no less.

Goal celebrations are ridiculous these days and should be curtailed.

I mention this because I question this instant and spontaneous joy thing. It is not the be-all and end-all. Three fans on our row in South Stand hardly react to goals, they remain seated, smile and sort of nod approval. They care, they are totally absorbed fans. Personally I jump up and instinctively celebrate with arms in the air and fist pumping etc. but I don't mind a disallowed goal if it is a correct decision, it will become the norm and routine
Fuck off into that home you
 

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