VAR ruled this offside...

[Roygbiv]

More great work by the VAR decision makers. You have to wonder if they are genuinely cheating

 

[tincan]

Two other things which make that decision ridiculous.

1 Where they’ve frozen the picture. Is that the exact instant the ball is played or is it a frame or two later? When they’re cutting it to such fine margins they have to be exact as to when the ball is actually played.

2 Apparently there was about 20 seconds from when it happened to the goal. Just how far back in play are they going to go back to find a so-called infringement. 20 seconds, a minute, 2 minutes?

its a complete and utter farce and at the end of the day it all comes down to one mans decision, except it’s not the ref actually on the pitch but some chuff sat in front of a screen rewinding and playing then rewinding again, just looking for a reason not to give a goal.

That wasn’t the idea of VAR.

Having reviewed the PL's official pictures more carefully I can now at least see why that fecking clown gave it offside

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It omits the micro second the ball was played though. If they want to be objective. Also an objective call that is proven to be inaccurate, can get often get challenged in civil law, for mr McCabe to note.

 

[Houston_Blade]

I guess not. I’m trying to accept that they know the rules and they know when they take it to VAR. I’d like to think they’re right in what they decide, I’m not looking to controversy...

However, I think the implementation of VAR hasn’t worked.

it takes too long and it removes the almost human part of the game.

I think I’ve appreciated refs and linesmen more this season. Yes they get things wrong and it will always be contentious. But I like that about football.

Interestingly Son had a chance later and he stopped as he thought he was offside. If he’d carried on, slotted home and let VAR decide after 4 mins he might’ve had a winner as the comms reckoned it was played back by a united player...

It wasn’t played by a Blades player.

 

[Tazzy]

We need ex players to use var this is killing the game we love .if you cant decide in 1 min you have to give the advantage to the attacking team

 

[A Storm of Blades]

More great work by the VAR decision makers. You have to wonder if they are genuinely cheating

I’m longing for the days when we could convince ourselves the ref didn’t see it. The injustice seems more pronounced when you know someone has seen it in slow motion, from multiple angles, and still doesn’t give it.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

So 99.9% of his body was onside. Not level with last player then. Crazy

 

[ucandomagic]

Big shout out for Harry Kane.

He could have gone down for a pen that would definitely have been given. He tried desperately and stayed on his feet.

Proper baller, worthy captain of England,

 

[A Storm of Blades]

WTF??

Get this shit out of my game.

I’m that enraged I need to comment twice. Can someone handy with a protractor explain the path of the VAR line in comparison to the 18 yard line?? It looks to me like official head-shed hobnobbery at its absolute finest.

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

So 99.9% of his body was onside. Not level with last player then. Crazy

That is the best argument for a VAR rethink. Please get it to the smug suits at Premier League HQ. (Send drawings and small words)

 

[gordoncharles]

That is a perfect explanation

 

[Roygbiv]

The guy who gave the decision should have to do an interview on TV to explain himself

 

[ZoneManWilf]

Blue line is supposed to represent Dier's position...

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

More great work by the VAR decision makers. You have to wonder if they are genuinely cheating

It's not a clear and obvious error though surely?........ Oh hang on a minute!

 

[Chief14]

Can’t help but feel premier league bosses are in the video refs ears saying “rule it offside it’ll make get tv and get us more coverage”.

There is to many awful decision every week for there not to be something else going on.

Controversy creates cash

 

[Mumbo]

WTF??

Get this shit out of my game.

It’s making a fkn mockery of a beautiful game.The exact moment the ball is played will never be determined unless targeted pitch side mics are used to record the impact sound of the foot hitting the ball,you would then have to factor in sound travelling at at 748miles an hour taking relative age to reach the mics and then sink the beginning of the isolated sound wave with the visuals and even then frame rates would still make it an in exact science.

 

[PokerBlade]

They are using it consistently, so I don’t have a problem with it.

It’s wank when it goes against you, but great when it goes for you. If it was the other way round we’d all be saying “an offside toe is still offside”.

The paradox is that it's consistently arbitrary. The point about this is that there's no way to determine exactly when the pass is played, and the frame rate of the camera is going to mean that if you'd chosen a frame earlier then it would be very clearly onside, and a frame later could be clearly offside. The picture that VAR has used to make this call is arbitrary and therefore so is the decision.

Literally all that's been added to the game is a three minute delay that is utterly unattached to the fans in the stadium. Meanwhile, there's no more clarity or accuracy than the linesman at the time would have given you.

I'm happy to concede that this decision could've been either way and so moaning about it is pointless. The point I'll continue to make is that VAR is complete garbage.

 

[BladeInIreland]

They are using it consistently, so I don’t have a problem with it.

It’s wank when it goes against you, but great when it goes for you. If it was the other way round we’d all be saying “an offside toe is still offside”.

But he wasn't even offside. VAR is consistently terrible for the game.

 

[JackSUFC]

Can’t help but feel premier league bosses are in the video refs ears saying “rule it offside it’ll make get tv and get us more coverage”.

There is to many awful decision every week for there not to be something else going on.

Controversy creates cash

I’ve thought this for a while now. VAR for VAR’s sake. Justify having it. Well it’s a load of bollocks. Stirring up controversy when all we should be talking about is a famous win.

 

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[Barnette]

How long are we going to have to wait this season for a VAR decision to go in our favour?

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

No need to wait lad.

Fair play and well said

 

[YES Blade]

But he wasn't even offside. VAR is consistently terrible for the game.

Refs have been making mistakes since the laws were first written, so how is VAR making that any different?

There is still a bloke in front of computer and clicking on players with a mouse to decide an offside. Had he clicked in a slightly different place it could have been different. Nothing will ever be 100% while ever humans are involved. I don’t get why people have massively high expectations that VAR would be 100% perfect.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

For me.. it’s not the tech, millimetres this way or that, it’s the principle of ruining the game. Players and fans unable to celebrate instantaneously? Eh?

Guess what? Referees and their assistants make good and bad decisions. Why do we now have to sit on our hands while some further official brings out the ruler? Why?

TV, that’s why. The only proponents of this shitshow are TV “fans” and a decreasing amount of media types.

Bollox is what VAR is, I’ve been at least consistent with this subject on the Forum.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

Refs have been making mistakes since the laws were first written, so how is VAR making that any different?

There is still a bloke in front of computer and clicking on players with a mouse to decide an offside. Had he clicked in a slightly different place it could have been different. Nothing will ever be 100% while ever humans are involved. I don’t get why people have massively high expectations that VAR would be 100% perfect.

Without wanting to seem rude...

What’s the fucking point of it? If it’s not 100% accurate?

 

[BladeInIreland]

Refs have been making mistakes since the laws were first written, so how is VAR making that any different?

There is still a bloke in front of computer and clicking on players with a mouse to decide an offside. Had he clicked in a slightly different place it could have been different. Nothing will ever be 100% while ever humans are involved. I don’t get why people have massively high expectations that VAR would be 100% perfect.

I don't mind referees making mistakes. Managers and players make them it was part of the game. It took them 4 minutes to make that mistake. If a referee or linesman made a mistake it is decided in seconds.

I have always been against it but could see people's argument when it was
Stay the same and let it flow vs lose a bit if flow but have 100% correct decisions. I can't understand the benefits if it's not even clear and accurate.

 

[The Hobott]

The original purpose of the offside law wasn't for goals to be offside because of someone's toe being one inch more in front than another mans toe. VAR should be done as it is in cricket and if the goal is given by the officials and is marginally offside than the goal should stand in my view. I think VAR's coming for review this week and hopefully it will be amended. Offside was much better when it had to be clear daylight between players to be offside.

Should introduce a margin of error. i.e. if it requires slide rules and that rubbish give the attacking team the benefit automatically

 

[YES Blade]

Without wanting to seem rude...

What’s the fucking point of it? If it’s not 100% accurate?

Diego Maradona’s hand of god? Henry vs Ireland?

 

[YES Blade]

I don't mind referees making mistakes. Managers and players make them it was part of the game. It took them 4 minutes to make that mistake. If a referee or linesman made a mistake it is decided in seconds.

I have always been against it but could see people's argument when it was
Stay the same and let it flow vs lose a bit if flow but have 100% correct decisions. I can't understand the benefits if it's not even clear and accurate.

To me they should just stop the clock like in Rugby and show the replays in the stadium.

It’s the first season of VAR, it’s bound to evolve and improve over the next few years.

 

[Danetheblade]

I get that if it's offside it's offside. However, the thing I don't agree with, is that VAR was bought in for clear cut offenses that the referee has missed, not to decide if someone's big toe is offside.

 

[oohaah]

Big shout out for Harry Kane.

He could have gone down for a pen that would definitely have been given. He tried desperately and stayed on his feet.

Proper baller, worthy captain of England,

Agree he could have gone down, but the ball was played cleanly by O’Connell. Not a penalty, no chance. Kane would fit into our ethos nicely, but not sure he is that ambitious, happy at Spurs.