VAR ruled this offside...

[Ainsley Harriott]

That's a fucking joke. Tell you now, if I was a manager and that got disallowed, I'd happily, as the team who benefit, allow the opposition to score unopposed.

So Burnley should allow Villa to walk it in. That's the only way this shit can stop

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

That's a fucking joke. Tell you now, if I was a manager and that got disallowed, I'd happily, as the team who benefit, allow the opposition to score unopposed.

So Burnley should allow Villa to walk it in. That's the only way this shit can stop

It would appear that Dyche is full of festive cheer and allowed just this... twice!

 

[Ridgeway Blade]

So the words from the IFAB representataitive about how VAR should be used has again been totally ignored. When you read their comments, the other day about VAR should be used it is clear that someone, preumably in the PGMOL, has sanctioned the approach used over here and should be held to account but who will do that? IFAB say that pitchside monitors should be used, that the ref on the pitch is the final arbiter and not the VAR referee. They should not be taking minutes to make a decision and should not be using multiple camera angles before deiding. and it should be used for clear and obvious errors only. They say they will re-issue the guidlines in February but don't expect to change much in them until a wider review later. If itt had been used at the guidleimes suggest it would have stopped all this.

 

[TaxiBlade]

I just saw that Villa one, that is absolute nonsense.

 

[Bugboyblade]

I didn't realise that the assistant referees got 98.5 of offsides correct have they tried to mend something that wasn't broken?

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

43 minutes into the premier league restart and VAR strikes again.

Also, this:

 

[CaptainMorgans]

43 minutes into the premier league restart and VAR strikes again.

Also, this:

Whats Sky's excuse for VAR?

 

[Chabuddy G]

Kuruption. The only thing I can put it down to. It’s too often against us to be a coincidence.

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

Reason number 1 why I’m looking forward to Championship football next season - no VAR.

At some point since it’s introduction, they’ve changed the meaning of ‘in-line’ to actually mean ‘offside’. What even is this decision?!?

 

[BettingBlade]

Reason number 1 why I’m looking forward to Championship football next season - no VAR.

At some point since it’s introduction, they’ve changed the meaning of ‘in-line’ to actually mean ‘offside’. What even is this decision?!?

The worst bit about that was the penalty.

It’s never been a penalty in a million years. A slight fanny tap on the shin and he couldn’t wait to go down.

I’ve said all along your feet should determine whether you are offside especially if they are going to piss persist with the current trigonometry bollocks.

That situation in the Arsenal game turns out exactly the same way whether he’s a mm offside or a mm onside.

 

[Varkanoid]

Reason number 1 why I’m looking forward to Championship football next season - no VAR.

At some point since it’s introduction, they’ve changed the meaning of ‘in-line’ to actually mean ‘offside’. What even is this decision?!?

I dont quite get this not seen anything of the game but the Arsenal player on the left is offside dont need VAR to show that. Or are you on about the kicker cant have kicked the ball with his right foot as if he did he would be flat on the floor face down ?

<Ah right I get it now the full image is on twitter shows a player not in your post at the top>

I was beginning to wonder !

Whats funny in the full picture is the red line mysteriously curves towards the Arsenal player !



VAR no longer using straight lines but curved ones !

 

[JPBrods]

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[Champagneblade]

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Since when? If we had a 5cm tolerance then surely the toe of Lundstram’s boot would have been onside. Unless he’s got goes that a T-Rex!

 

[SwissBlade]

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In England surely the tolerance applies in the favour of the side that the VAR official is biased towards?

 

[JPBrods]

Btw I know it looks impotent to get worked up about something that happened six years ago but this is the hill I will die on. I think about it more than the Burrows decision at Wembley (also bollocks).

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

I’ve said this a thousand times since 2019, but if you need technology, lasers and video replays to determine whether someone is 5cm offside or not, then they’re not offside. The whole point of the offside rule was to stop attackers gaining an unfair advantage. There is absolutely nothing advantageous about a sleeve being slightly behind the last defender.

The tech is fine, the way it’s being used is bollocks. ‘Clear and obvious’ should be the way it’s used I.e has the attacker obviously gained an unfair advantage and was missed by the officials. Yes or no. If no, then the on-field decision stands.

 

[bertieblade]

The VAR official should be given 15 seconds to make a decision if not referees opinion stands.
It is supposed to be “clear and obvious”.

 

[gordoncharles]

Since when? If we had a 5cm tolerance then surely the toe of Lundstram’s boot would have been onside. Unless he’s got goes that a T-Rex!

If there's a 5cm tolerance level then it still has to be calculated to the mm at the extreme of the tolerance

Just like Wenger's marvellous new idea. These people understand nothing about geometry.

Euclid will be turning in his grave.

 

[SRBlade]

I’ve said this a thousand times since 2019, but if you need technology, lasers and video replays to determine whether someone is 5cm offside or not, then they’re not offside. The whole point of the offside rule was to stop attackers gaining an unfair advantage. There is absolutely nothing advantageous about a sleeve being slightly behind the last defender.

The tech is fine, the way it’s being used is bollocks. ‘Clear and obvious’ should be the way it’s used I.e has the attacker obviously gained an unfair advantage and was missed by the officials. Yes or no. If no, then the on-field decision stands.

100% absolutely this.

I recall watching the Man Utd v Cov semi final a few years ago. Coventry came from 3 goals down and actually scored a 4th goal, this could have been the greatest semi final upset you've ever seen.

If not for VAR ruling that the Coventry player gained an unfair advantage because half his foot was offside 50 yards from goal.

Of course, if half of his foot was 5cm further back then the Man Utd defender would have caught up with him and stopped the cross.

Just leave the VAR to clear and obvious errors. The ball brushing someone's little finger isnt a clear and obvious handball.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Unless it's been updated since it was first introduced (old example below), VAR still uses a frame rate of 50 frames/sec, which is not up to the job.
It is pitifully slow, given how quickly the players are moving. It's like trying to measure the speed of light using a torch and a stopwatch .

 

[S74Blade]

I’ve said this a thousand times since 2019, but if you need technology, lasers and video replays to determine whether someone is 5cm offside or not, then they’re not offside. The whole point of the offside rule was to stop attackers gaining an unfair advantage. There is absolutely nothing advantageous about a sleeve being slightly behind the last defender.

The tech is fine, the way it’s being used is bollocks. ‘Clear and obvious’ should be the way it’s used I.e has the attacker obviously gained an unfair advantage and was missed by the officials. Yes or no. If no, then the on-field decision stands.

The problem with your solution is that it is too much like common sense. People do not use common sense these days unfortunately. What you are saying is bang on!!!

 

[calcalcal]

The VAR official should be given 15 seconds to make a decision if not referees opinion stands.
It is supposed to be “clear and obvious”.

This. Absolutely this. But some situations have 2 or 3 issues so I would say 30 sec

Or a challenge system

Each side gets 2 challenges a game 1 per half and that's it. They choose when to use them

 

[The Fox]

Off side has just become too hard to manage or measure or interpret with any degree of accuracy or consistency.
We should really look at scrapping it , or at least changing it radically .
One thought is that players cant be offside goal side of the 18 yard line . It would stop alot of the nonsense yet still allow teams to push up defensively.

Its probably got flaws but it has now.
One rule that works on the local park as it does at the highest level would be better .


Just a thought.

 

[jt64]

I’ve said this a thousand times since 2019, but if you need technology, lasers and video replays to determine whether someone is 5cm offside or not, then they’re not offside. The whole point of the offside rule was to stop attackers gaining an unfair advantage. There is absolutely nothing advantageous about a sleeve being slightly behind the last defender.

Ok, tell me at what point someone does become offside then.

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

Ok, tell me at what point someone does become offside then.

When they’ve gained an unfair advantage. If you have to draw lines using lasers and computers to figure it out, it’s reasonable to assume that there hasn’t been an unfair advantage gained.

 

[Caveblade]

They used to say, "if you didn't notice the ref, he was a great ref". The problem with VAR is, it's made the whole bloody game about the ref.

In the modern game you have the kid who was shit at football and not good enough to play, siting in a feckin portakabin making subjective crap decisions that ruin the game.

The other problem is, the TV companies love it, because they can get a knob like Dermot Gallagher and some illiterate ex footballer to endlessly chew over why the crap decision was made.

It's all utter bollocks. As was said above, offside was bought in to stop goal hangers getting an unfair advantage. Someone being ahead of a defender by mm's is not an unfair advantage.

Never mind banning var, ban referees, they are killing the game. I detest VAR, it sucks all of the joy out of going to a match.

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

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The worst thing about this one is that when they showed the virtual VAR image, they moved Wirtz back so that he was just onside!