The Unofficial Transfer List Summer 2022

[bonobo]

Unless Forest go up and offer good money I would take Lowe back and ship Stevens out on loan (even if we cannot recoup his whole salary). It does not matter how many players we have who can play LWB, if none of them can cross the ball. By all accounts, Lowe was very effective with his delivery at Forest last season. I also wonder if the coaching staff, may start to work with RND on playing LCB as well as LWB. Defensively he came on leaps and bounds last season, he is 5 '11 and strong enough physically. If we assume JOC wont be back soon, then we still need cover/competition for Robinson.

 

[Old Programme seller]

Bogle will attract interest because of his age and attacking ability as will Lowe theres a player in there Forest have shown I’m suspecting there’ll be a lot of movement in the outgoing transfer market to make room for any incomings

 

[LJBlade]

Surely Osborn would come in as he did this season?

Not ideal though is it. Osborn did OK when asked to fill in but our attacks down the right quite often fizzled out due to his inability to cross the ball with his right foot.

It doesn’t make sense to let a good player in Baldock leave so that your only option is a square peg in a round hole.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Not ideal though is it. Osborn did OK when asked to fill in but our attacks down the right quite often fizzled out due to his inability to cross the ball with his right foot.

It doesn’t make sense to let a good player in Baldock leave so that your only option is a square peg in a round hole.

It does make sense if that fee and salary allows you to bring players in other, more pressing need positions. We can't afford 2 good players for every position and we have too many holes where we don't have 1 on a consistent basis.

Got to be smarter with our allocation of resources now the level of finance available is decreasing

 

[Keen Blade]

Players who spent the last pre-season conditioning themselves to play in a patient system, and then had to train at a higher intensity to accommodate a high energy system midway through the season, will now have a full pre-season being conditioned to play in the system they're going to be playing for the season.

Also, hopefully this pre-season will consist of more than a trip to play Donny Youth and a match against some greengrocers in Gibraltar.

Fitness levels, physicality and resilience to injuries will be markedly improved next season, you can bet your house on it!

If we can mend the walking wounded.

 

[Keen Blade]

Unless Forest go up and offer good money I would take Lowe back and ship Stevens out on loan (even if we cannot recoup his whole salary). It does not matter how many players we have who can play LWB, if none of them can cross the ball. By all accounts, Lowe was very effective with his delivery at Forest last season. I also wonder if the coaching staff, may start to work with RND on playing LCB as well as LWB. Defensively he came on leaps and bounds last season, he is 5 '11 and strong enough physically. If we assume JOC wont be back soon, then we still need cover/competition for Robinson.

5'11 is not CB height these days , unless we want to keep conceding easy goals to Jake Cooper.
Egan is not really tall enough but makes up for it by being excellent at his job (just occasionally getting done over the top).
Bash is 6'4" but the rest of our CBs get bullied in the air.
If Lopata isn't considered ready , we desperately need to recruit a physically dominant CB + stop thinking we can put wingbacks in the middle

 

[Keen Blade]

Is he a RWB? I thought he was more of a CB/RCB

Nowhere near tall or strong enough for CB

 

[Keen Blade]

All these ageing players like Stevens, Fleck etc are on great contracts, noone is going to match those wages so assuming they will leave due to performances is not how it works in afraid

Yep , we are still fucked by the daft contracts Wilder gave out as rewards to aging players + signings like McB.

 

[Keen Blade]

Bogle will attract interest because of his age and attacking ability as will Lowe theres a player in there Forest have shown I’m suspecting there’ll be a lot of movement in the outgoing transfer market to make room for any incomings

No one is going to buy players who are injured.
Like Bogle , Brewster & McB.
I'm praying that for this "default" reason , we'll keep B & B and they'll mend well + return to form.
As for McB , it would be great if he could go to prison + we could sack him or we discover that our medical dept have used super glue on his plastic boot + we can claim on the insurance

 

[LJBlade]

Nowhere near tall or strong enough for CB

Doesn't mean he's a RWB though

 

[LJBlade]

It does make sense if that fee and salary allows you to bring players in other, more pressing need positions. We can't afford 2 good players for every position and we have too many holes where we don't have 1 on a consistent basis.

Got to be smarter with our allocation of resources now the level of finance available is decreasing

Having Osborn as a full time option at RWB makes no sense at all.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Having Osborn as a full time option at RWB makes no sense at all.

I didn't say that though. I just said carrying 2 starting level Championship RWB's was a misuse of resources when we have so many holes elsewhere. It's on the club to source a cheaper alternative to Baldock/Bogle that isn't a left footed utility player

 

[LJBlade]

I didn't say that though. I just said carrying 2 starting level Championship RWB's was a misuse of resources when we have so many holes elsewhere. It's on the club to source a cheaper alternative to Baldock/Bogle that isn't a left footed utility player

"It doesn’t make sense to let a good player in Baldock leave so that your only option is a square peg in a round hole"

"It does make sense..."

You never mentioned bringing in a cheaper, right-footed alternative. Apologies if I've read your meaning wrong though.

 

[Carlton Blade]

"It doesn’t make sense to let a good player in Baldock leave so that your only option is a square peg in a round hole"

"It does make sense..."

You never mentioned bringing in a cheaper, right-footed alternative. Apologies if I've read your meaning wrong though.

I was saying that letting Baldock go to strengthen elsewhere made sense rather than agreeing that Osborn was an acceptable back up to Bogle. Wasn't as in depth as what the alternative should be but we have seen both extremes with that position (all attack or all defence) and I do think it would be reasonably simple to find a right footed version of Osborn on a free - A player who could fill in there and potentially cover a couple of other positions.

My main argument is that the argument of "2 players for every position" can't apply to United. We do not have the funds to do it. We have to accept that if Bogle can't play 35+ games we'll probably have an issue creating down the right hand side and adjust how we play accordingly. It's where we have to hope the current management team are flexible and versatile enough to understand that we need multiple ways to attack

 

[Champagneblade]

I love how football seems different to everyday life when we talk about squad building.

I can't wait to go into work tomorrow and get rid of a third of my most senior team members to "freshen things up"

 

[CrookesBlade]

Baldock - Not great at defending, poor at attacking, occasionally angry. Should still have some transfer value.
Stevens - Shit for two seasons, if anyone offered any money for him we should snap their hands off, especially if Lowe stays.
Fleck - Wildly inconsistent and a complete liability when he's not on it.
Egan - A bit hit and miss, if we're ever going to sell him now would be the time and replacing the central centre back is the easiest one to do.

Baldock hasn't had a bad career so far to say he is 'not great at defending, poor at attacking'.

 

[Nedski]

Keepers:
Wes - 1st choice
Davies - Sub
Eastwood - Backup
Amissah - League 2 loan
Dewhurst - League 2 loan

LCB
Robinson - 1st choice
RND - Backup

CB
Egan - 1st choice
New signing - sub
Lopata - League 2 loan

RCB
Bash - 1st choice
Gordon - Backup

LWB
RND - fight for 1st choice
Lowe - fight for 1st choice
Osborn - sub
Stevens - backup/leave

RWB
Bogle - 1st choice
Baldock - sub
Osborn - backup
Seriki - league 1 loan

CM
New signing - 1st choice
Fleck - sub
Coulibaly?

CM
Norwood - 1st choice
Neal - league 2 loan

AMC
Berge - 1st choice

AMC
Ndiaye - 1st choice
Brunt - league 2 loan

ST
Brewster - 1st choice
Sharp - sub
McBurnie - sub
Jebbison - league 1 loan
Osula - league 1 loan

I've tried to include those around the first team or out on loan but might have missed some.

We definitely need another CB although I'd love to think Lopata could pitch in with a few appearances, but he needs a full season somewhere.
Fleck's time in the 1st eleven is up and we badly need a box-to-box replacement. I'm hoping Coulibaly could do this but he's a bit of an unknown entity in terms of ability and work permit. We've also got no one to replace Norwood when he gets injured or inevitably suspended.

Obviously MGW is a HUGE loss, and an injury to Berge or Ndiaye will impact the entire shape of the team if we're going with two behind a main striker (Brewster).

 

[Charlieblade]

Look at the retained list. Then consider the manager and the team need two players for each position. We are not too far from a decent side.
I would like to think that the Prince will only consider serious offers for Berge. Any departures will go late in the window, with Hecky left to struggle with free transfers or loans to replace them.
We do have a few young players who could fill gaps, but only one or two who could hold down a first team slot on a regular basis.
Old stagers like Fleck and Norwood will have to fill first choice slots. We don’t have the funds for replacements at that level.
If Berge, Ndiaye or Egan leave, the money is more likely to balance the books than to fund replacements!
Osborn is a good shout for retention as an all rounder. It may sound harsh, uk he will get plenty of game time next season.

Our main hope is that the club can unearth a few gems in free transfers/loans.

The new performance/fitness coach Shirecliffe improvements is a good call too. The side we start the season with needs to stay injury free.

 

[MagnifiqueShorehamStreet]

If Hecky paid any attention to some of the comments on here from our fans, it wouldn’t be long before he was sat in the stands with us.
We finished 5th last season after a bad start, and were unlucky not to get to the play off final.
keep what we’ve got, who are proven Championship players, and add a bit of quality where we can, and we’ll be challenging again.
Follow some of the suggestions on here, and God help us.

 

[Snowflake]

I didn't say that though. I just said carrying 2 starting level Championship RWB's was a misuse of resources when we have so many holes elsewhere. It's on the club to source a cheaper alternative to Baldock/Bogle that isn't a left footed utility player

Don’t we have one already ?

 

[Carlton Blade]

Don’t we have one already ?

Bash?

 

[Snowflake]

Bash?

Striking ? He fits your description of a cheap back up

 

[Carlton Blade]

Striking ? He fits your description of a cheap back up

I just think the Bash utility is overstated now. He's a CB

 

[JT89]

Not ideal though is it. Osborn did OK when asked to fill in but our attacks down the right quite often fizzled out due to his inability to cross the ball with his right foot.

E.g. the one touch cross he put in for MGW's goal of the season contenter with his right foot, is that the inability you're talking about?

 

[Benitachel]

5'11 is not CB height these days , unless we want to keep conceding easy goals to Jake Cooper.
Egan is not really tall enough but makes up for it by being excellent at his job (just occasionally getting done over the top).
Bash is 6'4" but the rest of our CBs get bullied in the air.
If Lopata isn't considered ready , we desperately need to recruit a physically dominant CB + stop thinking we can put wingbacks in the middle

Bash is 6 ft 3 max

 

[LJBlade]

E.g. the one touch cross he put in for MGW's goal of the season contenter with his right foot, is that the inability you're talking about?

Inability was possibly the wrong word. Maybe, lack of confidence in using his right foot to cross the ball, would have been a better way of putting it. Surely you didn’t miss the number of times he decided to turn back instead of crossing it? If you think that’s a good way of playing going forward when we could look for a better option instead then fair enough.

 

[sufcboy95]

Tbf I agree with the Baldock shouts. Not because he’s not good enough but you do not need two RBs on big wages in the championship. And Bogle is far superior as a RWB

 

[LJBlade]

Tbf I agree with the Baldock shouts. Not because he’s not good enough but you do not need two RBs on big wages in the championship. And Bogle is far superior as a RWB

How much are they both getting paid?

I agree that Bogle is superior, when he’s fit…

 

[sufcboy95]

How much are they both getting paid?

I agree that Bogle is superior, when he’s fit…

Baldock is certainly on more, he signed an extension when we were in prem and even if there was a relegation clause he’ll still be on a decent wage compared to other championship RBs. Especially when he’ll be more than likely sat on the bench majority of time

 

[LJBlade]

Baldock is certainly on more, he signed an extension when we were in prem and even if there was a relegation clause he’ll still be on a decent wage compared to other championship RBs. Especially when he’ll be more than likely sat on the bench majority of time

Unless Bogle is out injured for a good while longer and in the meantime Baldock puts in very good performances, thereby keeping Bogle out even when he’s fit?