'The manager is a nice guy - one of those you want to do well for'

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Seems like an attempt to wind up and ridicule a view on football that nobody on here has advocated. As it so simplistically implies there are two ways of playing football it ususally leads to pointless debates, rather than interesting ones where we can discuss how to keep improving.

Wilson seems a great bloke, and although like most managers he doesn't give too much away in terms of tactical preferences, I enjoy listening to his interviews.

Surprised at these comments Bergen. Ok it is tiresome but there is a serious side to it. Hoof is everything that Blackwell and Adams stood for and it has landed us in the pub league. Lack of pace, lack of ability, fear factor, pathetic rants and lies to the press - that is hoof. We haven't seen Wilson yet after a bad set of results but Quinn is 100% definitely having a pop at Adams and Blackwell in his comments. We now have a proper, sensible football manager (who might fail obviously) - Blackwell and Adams were total and utter jokes, failures and zero entertainment.
 



Surprised at these comments Bergen. Ok it is tiresome but there is a serious side to it. Hoof is everything that Blackwell and Adams stood for and it has landed us in the pub league. Lack of pace, lack of ability, fear factor, pathetic rants and lies to the press - that is hoof. We haven't seen Wilson yet after a bad set of results but Quinn is 100% definitely having a pop at Adams and Blackwell in his comments. We now have a proper, sensible football manager (who might fail obviously) - Blackwell and Adams were total and utter jokes, failures and zero entertainment.

Adams I'll give you, but Blackwell a failure? - what wouldn't we give now to be where we were in May 2009.
 
Adams I'll give you, but Blackwell a failure? - what wouldn't we give now to be where we were in May 2009.

Amen Darren, people seem to forget that Blackwell didn`t just get us to PO final (which we lost) but also got us to within 1 win of automatic promotion (or alternatively to within one loss of automatic promotion. Birmingham lose at Reading rather than win and we go up on GD).

By anyones definition that has to be classed as not a failure, surely...

And FWIW, the game against Burnley wasn`t where we threw auto away, it was the home game against Forest. An extra 2 points there and we'd have been in control of our own destiny...
 
Adams I'll give you, but Blackwell a failure? - what wouldn't we give now to be where we were in May 2009.

As you ask, absolutely nothing! Did you enjoy subjecting Wembley and the nation to the most cowardly, negative retreat since Blackwell last played for penalties there?

I'd rather be right here, right now with DW bringing football to BDTBL for the first time in far too many years, thank you very much.

History will show last year's relegation to be the very epitome of serendipity.
 
As a member of the team that was relegated, you could just as convincingly argue that Quinn is simply passing the buck.

"Wasn't me guys, the boss was crap!"

And it's pretty common to slag off the manager after he's left (see above for absolution from the fans) and praise the new one to ensure you stay in the team/get the transfer you want/obtain the rise/get the fans on your side (delete as required).

I think people are reading into this quote/interview what they want to find.

Don't judge a player after a few games, likewise don't judge a manager after a few games and some supportive quotes from the odd player. If it all goes tits up, Wilson will join Blackwell and Adams in the condemned basket, especially if it lets failing players off the hook!
 
Boo, you've always been an admirer of Quinny. What do you make of Quinny's remarks?

I think we now know why he used to hold his head in his hands. Have you noticed he doesn't do it now he's playing properly?

I have not yet heard the interview. If there's a link it would be appreciated. Quinny held his head in his hands on two occasions before we scored on Saturday. Some of us saw a good player years ago and loved the fact that he gave all he could to forward the club and yet still got slated by certain people.
What I find fascinating is how someone who could see no good in a player and even invented a derogatory name for the Man/Player and Human being can suddenly become one of his biggest fans. Just goes to show that some look deeper for appreciation than others who only see the surface.

PS. Did Quinny actually say 'hoof' in is interview or does that still remain your term?
 
Amen Darren, people seem to forget that Blackwell didn`t just get us to PO final (which we lost) but also got us to within 1 win of automatic promotion (or alternatively to within one loss of automatic promotion. Birmingham lose at Reading rather than win and we go up on GD).

By anyones definition that has to be classed as not a failure, surely...
Depends on whether he think he should have done better given the resources...
 
As you ask, absolutely nothing! Did you enjoy subjecting Wembley and the nation to the most cowardly, negative retreatsince Blackwell last played for penalties there?

I'd rather be right here, right now with DW bringing football to BDTBL for the first time in far too many years, thank you very much.

History will show last years relegation to be the very epitome of serendipity.

Well there you go. Call me weird, but I would much rather be going into the last game of the season with a chance of automatic promotion to the premier league than being in the 3rd Division.
 
I'd rather be right here, right now with DW bringing football to BDTBL for the first time in far too many years, thank you very much.

History will show last years relegation to be the very epitome of serendipity.

Then damn that Wilson for getting us in the top two when clearly relegation is what we should be looking for.
 
I think theyre Stephen Quinn's statements. The question is a bit of a non sequitur really.

The question is, as one would expect, simple, precise and unambiguous. Your response is deliberately evasive. One more for the Lodge?
 
Adams I'll give you, but Blackwell a failure? - what wouldn't we give now to be where we were in May 2009.

You're banging your head agaisnt a brick wall. Some people just hate Blackwell because they hate Blackwell.

It's like the people who used to always be on James Beattie's back even though he was the best striker we've had since Deane and Agana.
 



The question is, as one would expect, simple, precise and unambiguous. Your response is deliberately evasive. One more for theLodge?

Its not evasive at all. You asked what I made of Stephen Quinn's statements. I simply said they are Stephen Quinn's statements. He likes playing for Wilson more then Blackwell or Adams. So what? How does that make anyone on here a memeber of some 'Hoof Alliance' or whatever other unamusing terminology there is today.

As I say, its a non sequitur.
 
Its not evasive at all. You asked what I made of Stephen Quinn's statements. I simply said they are Stephen Quinn's statements. He likes playing for Wilson more then Blackwell or Adams. So what? How does that make anyone on here a memeber of some 'Hoof Alliance' or whatever other unamusing terminology there is today.

As I say, its a non sequitur.

I want to know what this Lodge is. Is it something to do with Commpn Purpose?
 
Blackwell and Adams were total and utter jokes, failures and zero entertainment.

I'm glad we've got a definition of hoof at last, none of which appear to be kicking the ball long, and three of which appear to have little to do with the football match. :)

Admittedly it wasn't very good at all under Adams but we were already doomed, (he did well at PV before and strangely is doing OK after, curious for a 'joke'..). However, and I know this will ranckle with you, despite everything you think about Blackwell (and I'm not passing any comment on whether he was or wasn't a complete arsehole) Blackwell was not a 'total and utter joke'. In terms of winning games and grinding out results, he holds one of the highest win percentages of any United manager, under him we had our longest run away from home unbeaten in a century. It might have been 4-5-1 and not attractive, but that was not failure. We lost after freezing at Wembley, but we had to get there in the first place. There were times when we played good football, the best of which was probably the first play-off leg at Preston where we passed the ball as well as anything I'd seen for a long time.

Sadly all of this is lost in the rewrites of the past, now you fallen deeply in love with Danny, but you need to remember that managers don't have to be nice people, warm and cudly, and give good interviews. Every manager has their own style and arseholes get success as much if not more than nice guys. More often than not the successful managers are nasty, driven people who would kick their own granny out of the way to achieve what they are tasked to. They are not widely liked but they don't have to be, just respected. They are employed to get results. Blackwell got results, up to the last yard admittedly, where he couldn't get us over the line and promoted. There is also the backdrop of most of our better players being sold and replaced with lesser cheaper players. The style of football might not have suited Quinn or others that can be named, but the club isn't just here to please them.

I conceed there were lots of negatives about the time that Blackwell spent here, (and KevMc should NOT have talked him out of resigning after the POF either...) his inability to get the best from Billy Sharp being the most glaring, but you are betraying history because of your narrow views of what does and doesn't now constitute 'good football'...

*Duncan retires to a safe distance and waits for the 'BANG!'...
 
I have not yet heard the interview. If there's a link it would be appreciated. Quinny held his head in his hands on two occasions before we scored on Saturday. Some of us saw a good player years ago and loved the fact that he gave all he could to forward the club and yet still got slated by certain people.
What I find fascinating is how someone who could see no good in a player and even invented a derogatory name for the Man/Player and Human being can suddenly become one of his biggest fans. Just goes to show that some look deeper for appreciation than others who only see the surface.

PS. Did Quinny actually say 'hoof' in is interview or does that still remain your term?

You're not seriously suggesting that he us now playing no better and no differently than in his Elpiton days? There's a gulf of Grand Canyon proportions!

He didn't say 'Hoof' but that's nothing to the point, is it? His message was unmistakable. The former Semi-Pro, Non-League, Reserve Goalie and Quickfix Micky played a long ball game that cut out midfield and had him watching the ball sail over his head. He did not like it. He would happily have left the club. DW let's him play the game the right way.

I have, of course, enrolled Stephen in RAPFA.

Is there to be a car park amoeba demonstration?
 
Christ, dont let ghandi hear you say 'Lodge' around a souper like me, he'll have me banned from Croke Park for life!

I have to say I was thinking of masons, not bowler hat sash wearing middle age men with grating accents.
 
I have to say I was thinking of masons, not bowler hat sash wearing middle age men with grating accents.

Id rather have coven as a collective noun anyway. A coven of hoof lovers.

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You're not seriously suggesting that he us now playing no better and no differently than in his Elpiton days? There's a gulf of Grand Canyon proportions!

He didn't say 'Hoof' but that's nothing to the point, is it? His message was unmistakable. The former Semi-Pro, Non-League, Reserve Goalie and Quickfix Micky played a long ball game that cut out midfield and had him watching the ball sail over his head. He did not like it. He would happily have left the club. DW let's him play the game the right way.

I have, of course, enrolled Stephen in RAPFA.

Is there to be a car park amoeba demonstration?

Im not sure anyone actually is arguing that the football was better under Blackwell or Adams than it is now.
 
Its not evasive at all. You asked what I made of Stephen Quinn's statements. I simply said they are Stephen Quinn's statements. He likes playing for Wilson more then Blackwell or Adams. So what? How does that make anyone on here a memeber of some 'Hoof Alliance' or whatever other unamusing terminology there is today.

As I say, its a non sequitur.

I can assure you, with a degree of modest authority, that the question I asked you was not, as a matter of grammatical construction, a non-sequitur. Such must be apparent on its face and not deduced from context or by inference.

Anyway, you :heart: hoof, don't you?
 
I can assure you, with a degree of modest authority, that the question I asked you was not, as a matter of grammatical construction, a non-sequitur. Such must be apparent on its face and not deduced from context or by inference.

Anyway, you :heart: hoof, don't you?

Not neccessarily.

And youre wrong, it was a non sequitur. It didnt follow logically from the previous point.
 
I can assure you, with a degree of modest authority, that the question I asked you was not, as a matter of grammatical construction, a non-sequitur. Such must be apparent on its face and not deduced from context or by inference.

Anyway, you :heart: hoof, don't you?

A question can't be a non-sequitur anyway. A non sequitur is a conclusion that does not follow from its premises.
 
You're not seriously suggesting that he us now playing no better and no differently than in his Elpiton days? There's a gulf of Grand Canyon proportions!

He didn't say 'Hoof' but that's nothing to the point, is it? His message was unmistakable. The former Semi-Pro, Non-League, Reserve Goalie and Quickfix Micky played a long ball game that cut out midfield and had him watching the ball sail over his head. He did not like it. He would happily have left the club. DW let's him play the game the right way.

I have, of course, enrolled Stephen in RAPFA.

Is there to be a car park amoeba demonstration?

Stop trying to put words in to other poster mouths. We all know he is playing better. You however slagged him off almost everyweek and could see no good in the player where as a lot of other saw the player below your derisory comments - now you love him. Well good on ye for actually not being overly stubborn and stuck to one position. I wonder if you'll now start to look below the surface at other players.
 
I have to say I was thinking of masons, not bowler hat sash wearing middle age men with grating accents.

You were thinking correctly Darren. The We :heart: Hoof Brigade has many similarities with The Worshipful Company.

We at RAPFA have been working tirelessly to expose their clandestine shirt-ripping, dagger-brandishing and trouser rolling and can now reveal the S2 Freehoofer Lodge:

Worshipful Hoofmaster: Judge

Senior Warden: Swiss Blade

Grand Pursuivant: Sitwell

Deacon: AlcoBlade

Great Standard Bearer: Dunc Disorderly

Tyler: Boo Radley

Steward: Klanger

Sorry if I've missed any Freehoofer out. Please feel free to bear your chests.
 
You were thinking correctly Darren. The We :heart: Hoof Brigade has many similarities with The Worshipful Company.

We at RAPFA have been working tirelessly to expose their clandestine shirt-ripping, dagger-brandishing and trouser rolling and can now reveal the S2 Freehoofer Lodge:

Worshipful Hoofmaster: Judge

Senior Warden: Swiss Blade

Grand Pursuivant: Sitwell

Deacon: AlcoBlade

Great Standard Bearer: Dunc Disorderly

Tyler: Boo Radley

Steward: Klanger

Sorry if I've missed any Freehoofer out. Please feel free to bear your chests.

Wow, youve actually put some thought into this.
 



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