Takeover

[Roygbiv]

I don't think it was naive. With benefit of hindsight, we invested in youth too soon into our journey. Our pros weren't as comfortable and solid at PL level as our lofty first season suggested.

But, at the time, with the facts in front of him I think he made the right choice to back Wilder like he did.
I'm still shocked at how we went from 9th to 20th so quickly.

I get why he did it. Wilders record gave him every reason to believe he would keep us up. I think the fact he and the club couldn't actually afford the deal was the naive part. There was always a chance a club like ours could have been relegated despite our brilliant previous season.

 

[Wards]

Burnley are absolutely fucked if they go down and don't get straight back up. Forever grateful for PA wrangling us away from KMc in that regard and on the whole I think he has done a prett good job with us, only halted by his own financial limitations. If he sells us then I just hope it's to another person who clearly loves the game as much as he does (even if it does mean a few bumps in the road along the way)

Hope YorkBlade does get his second interview with PA in due course, albeit they did say we wouldn't hear from him again. The first one was fantastic.

 

[JayGreen17]

The Prince has met with a number of people who could be potential investors all over the world, at time of writing none of them have (yet) committed or been announced but let's hope that changes. I've asked him to do another interview with us, watch this space.

Thanks!

 

[georgebernardshaw]

When he joined, we were in League 1 with probably the worst squad we've had in living memory and only going one way.

If we're in a worse position now then we really are fucked.

Miss Jones, would you file this under “bollocks” please…

 

[Harry's Game]

 

[Sean Thornton]

No one will buy us while we are being asset stripped and all our munneh is going to fund United World.

So l’ve read.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

I really don’t mind the prince at all. We’ve only really invested in strengthening the team since his arrival & we’ve never sold our bigger name players. He’s regained control of the clubs assets so we don’t end up in a Derby type situation when we’re ‘for sale’.

The problem for the prince is while ever you’re a championship team you’re losing money and I don’t think that’s something that sustainable for him long term so he will need to sell up or gain investment asap.

 

[Rob86]

I really don’t mind the prince at all. We’ve only really invested in strengthening the team since his arrival & we’ve never sold our bigger name players. He’s regained control of the clubs assets so we don’t end up in a Derby type situation when we’re ‘for sale’.

The problem for the prince is while ever you’re a championship team you’re losing money and I don’t think that’s something that sustainable for him long term so he will need to sell up or gain investment asap.

I think the Prince has done alright as well to be fair. He just hasn’t got the resources to give it a real good go.

But what big name players have we rejected offers for ?

 

[bertieblade]

I think the Prince has done alright as well to be fair. He just hasn’t got the resources to give it a real good go.

But what big name players have we rejected offers for ?

We turned down £5m from Everton for Jebbison.
compare that to the deal that McCabe did for Walker and Naughton

 

[Rob86]

We turned down £5m from Everton for Jebbison.
compare that to the deal that McCabe did for Walker and Naughton

I wasn’t aware of that ! Only transfer activity I could think of was Ramsdale (well played) and Berge, was that 10m ish from Napoli (jury still out on that one)

 

[bertieblade]

I wasn’t aware of that ! Only transfer activity I could think of was Ramsdale (well played) and Berge, was that 10m ish from Napoli (jury still out on that one)

we have as far as I am aware not turned down many offers for our better players as most have reduced in value and we want to hold on in the hope that their value increases.
we have however broken our transfer record on numerous occasions in the past three years.
freeman, moose, mcburnie Berge, Brewster

 

[Blade56]

consortium

consortium

consortium

That’s the word that sends shivers down one’s spine

 

[Blade56]

broken our transfer record on numerous occasions in the past three years.
freeman, moose, mcburnie Berge, Brewster

Cruel world why doth thee mock me

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

I think the Prince has done alright as well to be fair. He just hasn’t got the resources to give it a real good go.

But what big name players have we rejected offers for ?

Berge / Jebbison (not big name yet but potential) - this season
Fleck/ Egan in the Premiership
I'm sure there's a few others, that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Cruel world why doth thee mock me

3 of the 5 are set to leave on free transfers. Thanks for ruining my day

 

[Blade56]

3 of the 5 are set to leave on free transfers. Thanks for ruining my day

its my job according to some of our posters

 

[CaptainMorgans]

We turned down £5m from Everton for Jebbison.
compare that to the deal that McCabe did for Walker and Naughton

In fairness we turned down offers for Jebbison (Everton), Egan (?) & Berge (Arsenal) in the Summer.
As well as multiple offers for Ramsdale before eventually giving in.
We also turned down bids for Fleck (West Ham) one January.
And I'm nearly sure we turned down approaches for Jack O'Connell (Brighton) before we were promoted.

 

[GrunkyPeep]

In fairness we turned down offers for Jebbison (Everton), Egan (?) & Berge (Arsenal) in the Summer.
As well as multiple offers for Ramsdale before eventually giving in.
We also turned down bids for Fleck (West Ham) one January.
And I'm nearly sure we turned down approaches for Jack O'Connell (Brighton) before we were promoted.

Coulibaly too I believe

 

[Sean Thornton]

Is Tekkover today Dad?

 

[ATL Recs]

I've said before on other threads, at least the Prince is a football man.

I think he's always put the clubs best interests at heart, apparently it was him who had to fund the McBurnie deal as it sounded like McCabe wanted to give Wilder about £10 million to spend in the first PL season, and appointed the number 1 choice manager last summer. We've broken our own transfer record about 5 times in the last 3 years and showed some ambition for the first time in a generation. He gave Wilder an eye watering contract and said he could have a contract for life and wanted him to be our Sir Alex.

It's a shame how things turned out, and probably the most Sheffield United thing ever that a global pandemic stopped us in our tracks and undid years of good work. I remember an interview he did after Berge signing saying that the plan was to make a big marquee signing like that every season and build a solid PL team, so it's painful to think where we'd be if COVID hadn't have happened.

People can blame him for Wilder walking out, but a combination of poor recruitment, tactics and injuries attributed to last season's pitiful performance.

I'm sure the Prince would love to splash more money, it's just he hasn't got it. Not his fault, 90% of the football league don't have mega rich owners.

Ahh the old Covid chestnut again

 

[ATL Recs]

We had the largest nett spend of any team in the premiership. The manager chose to buy young unproven players for large fees, it was not that money was not available ( I,e. All / most of what we earned in TV revenue ) it was how the manager and his advisors chose to spend it.

True but I tend to think that what we bought was his C shopping list not A or B those were sabotaged by wage demands - no coincidence that the potential he went for and wanted first are plying their trade still in the premiership and one due to get promoted back there

 

[GrunkyPeep]

True but I tend to think that what we bought was his C shopping list not A or B those were sabotaged by wage demands - no coincidence that the potential he went for and wanted first are plying their trade still in the premiership and one due to get promoted back there

I've always seen that as a bit of a kop-out tbh.

Eze would have still gone to Palace - didn't want to leave London, joined an established prem club
Watkins would have still gone to Villa - joined his old manager and joined a cash-rich team more likely to stay up
Maupay would still have gone to Brighton - got to stay down south and play in a team established in the prem for a few seasons already

Would have felt pretty silly to have looked to break the bank for players very unlikely to join. Means you piss off the team you have and then you have to pay your new signings what you would have paid Watkins.

Imagine missing out on Watkins at £44k-£75k per week and then having to pay McBurnie the same money

 

[bertieblade]

Maupay was all lined up to join us, had agreed terms and visited BDTBL, but at the last minute his agent asked for more money and Wilder told him to do one.
the Prince cannot be criticised for the amount of money he made available, the manager can be for the way he spent it.
it was however always going to be difficult to integrate players who had come through the ranks from the first division on the relevant salaries with any new signing.

but that is in the past we move on and hope that the measures employed by our owner are sufficient to keep us afloat with funds to make another realistic push for the premiership. If he had agreed to all of Wilders demands we would have been right up the shit creek as the likes of lingaard would not have kept us up, but was used as yet another excuse by our manager who had already thrown the towel in.

 

[Torrix1889]

Maupay was all lined up to join us, had agreed terms and visited BDTBL, but at the last minute his agent asked for more money and Wilder told him to do one.
the Prince cannot be criticised for the amount of money he made available, the manager can be for the way he spent it.
it was however always going to be difficult to integrate players who had come through the ranks from the first division on the relevant salaries with any new signing.

but that is in the past we move on and hope that the measures employed by our owner are sufficient to keep us afloat with funds to make another realistic push for the premiership. If he had agreed to all of Wilders demands we would have been right up the shit creek as the likes of lingaard would not have kept us up, but was used as yet another excuse by our manager who had already thrown the towel in.

Completely agree. Was Lingaard ever a realistic possibility though or just a sign of our then Managers marbles not being right?

 

[Harry's Game]

Amazed this thread hasn’t got a green confirmed label

 

[Bill puntin]

I wonder if our new investors will be at the lane today ? That might the reason they have reduced price to get a good crowd to impress ?

 

[Champagneblade]

No one will buy us while we are being asset stripped and all our munneh is going to fund United World.

So l’ve read.

Probably would have signed Gibbs-White permanently by now too but we've gone and spunked the money on training complexes in Antwerp and central France!

 

[Broomhall Blade]

I wonder if our new investors will be at the lane today ? That might the reason they have reduced price to get a good crowd to impress ?

Keep you eyes on the director's box for anybody wearing stetson.
I'll keep my ears open on the kop for anyone asking for Fries just in case they are mixing in the cheap seats.
Also instead of singing the Greasy chip butty before kick off how about the American national anthem, I'm sure Gary Sinclair can arrange for the words to be put up on the biggest screen.


Disclaimer.
I am not for one minute suggesting that all Americans wear stetsons or eat fries.
Just for any Guardian reading snowflakes, no need to get on your high horse(no pun intended).

 

[Blade56]

Keep you eyes on the director's box for anybody wearing stetson.
I'll keep my ears open on the kop for anyone asking for Fries just in case they are mixing in the cheap seats.
Also instead of singing the Greasy chip butty before kick off how about the American national anthem, I'm sure Gary Sinclair can arrange for the words to be put up on the biggest screen.


Disclaimer.
I am not for one minute suggesting that all Americans wear stetsons or eat fries.
Just for any Guardian reading snowflakes, no need to get on your high horse(no pun intended).

You’d be int doodoo if you had said sombreros

Discllaimer for any Guardian reading snowflakes I only use the word sombrero for illustrative purposes only so don’t get prickly like a cactus (no pun intended)

 

[Groucho Blade]

You’d be int doodoo if you had said sombreros

Discllaimer for any Guardian reading snowflakes I only use the word sombrero for illustrative purposes only so don’t get prickly like a cactus (no pun intended)

Disclaimer for anyone attending a funeral…sombrero though only two letters more than sombre will give you a totally different ambience