Outgoing? Stefan Scougall

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It was a direct quote from new Celtic Assistant Manager John Collins that they should be going for more young Scottish players like Scougall. That would be a reasonable statement to make considering that he's just broken into the U21's having only been with us a few months.

Perhaps Celtic will start snapping up more of the local talent and being a rival to us for the Scottish players, but its also a compliment to Clough and what he has done in the few months since he arrived that we are now looking to reject bids from sides playing at a higher level unless they meet the value.

We can't escape the fact that if we develop talented players at the club and progress, then we will undoubtedly get offers to sell those players. If the players (and their agent) want to leave, then the club is in a corner. So the current approach of getting players into reasonable two year (with an optional one plus) contracts is sensible. It allows us to fix a fair asking price for the club.

One thing that Clough was clear about with Harry, we've rejected two bids from Wolves because they didn't meet our valuation. But he was clear that if an offer comes in "which allows us to strengthen in 2-3 positions, then we will consider it".

I think the statement is an extremely strong change in the mentality at the club which we've seen in the past 12 months. It started with KMac. We were able to go and get Baxter (one of the talents of the division before coming to the lane). This is something which hasn't happened for many years before.

I can accept losing the best talent, but as long as we replace them and build the team to progress.

Just look at Southampton, they now want GBP40 million for 18 year old Shaw. If they get it good luck to them, but if I was a Saints fan I'd want to know that they were replacing him with 2-3 players to develop.

At the moment the Scougall rumour is just that, no offer has been made.
 

As people have said, whilever we're in League 1 this is going to happen, the only difference (hopefully) is that we can now afford to turn offers down whereas this hasn't been the case for the last x number of years. As Nige says, if the deal is right for the club (or the player insists he wants to go) then that's a different matter but we don't have to sell for selling's sake.

Scoogs will be as ambitious as anyone and would probably prefer to be plying his trade in the Scottish Prem with European football, same goes for Murphy but I'd like to think they'll stick with us this year but there's no doubt this season has to be promotion.
 
Well if Scougalls latest tweet is anything to go by then this rumour is just another load of rubbish like most news paper rumours. He's staying.
 
Well if Scougalls latest tweet is anything to go by then this rumour is just another load of rubbish like most news paper rumours. He's staying.

Absolutely, there's a feel good factor about the club at the moment and, rose tinteds aside, players like Scoogs, and Harry for that matter, would be mad to leave this season IMO. If it's all about money then fair enough, they can go, but for purely footballing reasons given the team spirit etc Nige has built up, I'd want to be hanging around this season.
 
I think there will be something in this now that John Collins is Celtic manager - I recall an article where John Collins states he has followed Scougs career closely and cannot understand why one of the higher placed clubs had not made an offer for him. Cant be arsed to find it for you lot though.
It makes sense for Collins to look to young Scottish talent and build his team around it. Will make Scotland a stronger international side as well - having a strong domestic group playing together regularly.

Hopefully Scougs will want to keep on going with us for a while as he has a chance to experience something different and the fact that NC showed faith in him when others didn't must have some sway, surely. Appreciate the wages issue and that will dictate what eventually happens because if Collins wants him enough the coin will win.
 

Not being disrespectful to Celtic or owt,but why would Scougs be tempted ?
Gotta be careful here,yes they have Champ lge footy for a few games,but what about the rest of the season ?Playing scotty lge football,result almost guaranteed,or face a real challenge with us,and I think Championship football next season playing proper teams with international players and just one lge away from the prem..and all that offers !
Stop with us Scoogs,you know it makes sense !(probably more than the way i've put it)
 
Not being disrespectful to Celtic or owt,but why would Scougs be tempted ?
Gotta be careful here,yes they have Champ lge footy for a few games,but what about the rest of the season ?Playing scotty lge football,result almost guaranteed,or face a real challenge with us,and I think Championship football next season playing proper teams with international players and just one lge away from the prem..and all that offers !
Stop with us Scoogs,you know it makes sense !(probably more than the way i've put it)

Because they're a bigger club with more fans, they can offer more money, win trophies and offer him a better chance of getting into the Scotland national team.

If I were a young Scot like Scougall and Celtic wanted me, I would probably want to go.
 
Only if we have established the costs of signing Coady and Brayfird should we enter into negotiations and that figure is our absolute bottom line .
 
Because they're a bigger club with more fans, they can offer more money, win trophies and offer him a better chance of getting into the Scotland national team.

If I were a young Scot like Scougall and Celtic wanted me, I would probably want to go.
Yes,but APART from all that,what have Celtic got to offer ?:p
 
Hold on........we've been here before, in fact too many times for my liking.

JL94x9 is a whizz at stirring up a thread, so if you can be bothered to check previous posts you'll see that JL94x9's got a record of precisely nul points!

Anyone in their right mind who thinks we'll sell before appointing a manager has been out in the sun for too long. Scoug's is a SUFC player, and once the new manager see's a fully fit Scougall he'll understand why we signed him in the first place.
 
I never said we were selling the lad. I said Bolton want him. Totally different.

Its JL94x4 btw, not JL94x9 :)

I get so confused mate, the level at which you operate is enough to send anyone around the bend.

Whether we sell or decide to keep the player, interest in better players is always a possibility.
 
I never said we were selling the lad. I said Bolton want him. Totally different.

Its JL94x4 btw, not JL94x9 :)

Or is it Maxtertheblade........we've never seen you both on line at the same time.......
 

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