Squad for next season

[Farnboroughblade]

I would think that money is going to be very tight next season, so I'd assume that any monies available to strengthen will be from who we can move out for a fee, or release to save on wages.
I would sell/release:-
Foderingham, Verrips, Moore, Stevens, Norwood, Jags, Robinson, Lunny, Berge (unfortunately), Rodwell, Freeman, Moose.
Money raised from the above circa £25m

Requirements :-
Buy a decent GK to push and compete with Rammers.
A back up and eventual replacement for Bash
The rest to be spent on a two attacking midfielders.(should we manage to keep hold of Fleck)

If any further money is required then we have Coulibaly to sell, who, as reports suggest, has other European clubs keeping an eye on him, should we decide not to bring him back for ourselves.

Try to keep hold of the rest with Lowe, RND, Bryan, Osborne being decent off the bench players for the Championship.

Nurture the younger players which includes:- Amissah, Gordon, Ndiaya, Brunt, Maguire, Ayari, Broadbent, Hackforth, all of whom could possibly break through into the 1st team squad especially now we will be plying our trade in the Championship.

This is before we even consider the loan market we could tap into, should we lose any of our 1st team squad..
I believe the club is in a far better place, squad wise, than what many think.

 

[Bladesince59]

I would think that money is going to be very tight next season, so I'd assume that any monies available to strengthen will be from who we can move out for a fee, or release to save on wages.
I would sell/release:-
Foderingham, Verrips, Moore, Stevens, Norwood, Jags, Robinson, Lunny, Berge (unfortunately), Rodwell, Freeman, Moose.
Money raised from the above circa £25m

Requirements :-
Buy a decent GK to push and compete with Rammers.
A back up and eventual replacement for Bash
The rest to be spent on a two attacking midfielders.(should we manage to keep hold of Fleck)

If any further money is required then we have Coulibaly to sell, who, as reports suggest, has other European clubs keeping an eye on him, should we decide not to bring him back for ourselves.

Try to keep hold of the rest with Lowe, RND, Bryan, Osborne being decent off the bench players for the Championship.

Nurture the younger players which includes:- Amissah, Gordon, Ndiaya, Brunt, Maguire, Ayari, Broadbent, Hackforth, all of whom could possibly break through into the 1st team squad especially now we will be plying our trade in the Championship.

This is before we even consider the loan market we could tap into, should we lose any of our 1st team squad..
I believe the club is in a far better place, squad wise, than what many think.

Can't disagree with the releases/sales - except that whilst I am no fan of Norwood in the PL he will do a job in the Championship- but would hope we raise a bit more than £25m

 

[BladeTillIDie]

Eastwood
Moore
Rodwell
Bryan
Jagielka
Lundstram

All frees in summer and all can go.

 

[robbiez666]

I would think that money is going to be very tight next season, so I'd assume that any monies available to strengthen will be from who we can move out for a fee, or release to save on wages.
I would sell/release:-
Foderingham, Verrips, Moore, Stevens, Norwood, Jags, Robinson, Lunny, Berge (unfortunately), Rodwell, Freeman, Moose.
Money raised from the above circa £25m

Requirements :-
Buy a decent GK to push and compete with Rammers.
A back up and eventual replacement for Bash
The rest to be spent on a two attacking midfielders.(should we manage to keep hold of Fleck)

If any further money is required then we have Coulibaly to sell, who, as reports suggest, has other European clubs keeping an eye on him, should we decide not to bring him back for ourselves.

Try to keep hold of the rest with Lowe, RND, Bryan, Osborne being decent off the bench players for the Championship.

Nurture the younger players which includes:- Amissah, Gordon, Ndiaya, Brunt, Maguire, Ayari, Broadbent, Hackforth, all of whom could possibly break through into the 1st team squad especially now we will be plying our trade in the Championship.

This is before we even consider the loan market we could tap into, should we lose any of our 1st team squad..
I believe the club is in a far better place, squad wise, than what many think.

£25 million for Berge, £0 for the rest?! (probably about right)

The problem with keeping Bryan is the fact you'd have to offer him a new contract and players rarely sign for one year. I'd be tempted to keep Robinson as cover for LWB instead as I can't imagine we'd be able to sell him for actual money. RND/Lowe covering LWB. Probably Stevens as well unless we let him go on a free (and then, not sure who is matching his wages).

I don't think any of the youngsters are ready to break through. This seemed to be the comments from those watching U-23 football regularly. RND would likely be the only one.

I think we need to sign about 8 new players (assuming we can get rid of everyone we want to)

Coulibaly not getting a work permit as things stand, so either sell or wait there. I'm guessing he might push to move as we'll no longer be a PL side.

Assuming we're playing the same formation, I think we need:

1 x GK (depends on Verrips loan for me). If he does well, then Ramsdale/Verrips and maybe Eastwood (if his loan goes well)
1 x Bash replacement/job share, 1 x CB cover for Egan.
1 x DCM, 1 x RCM, 1 x AM (1 x AM loan)

I'd also look at bringing in a young talented striker. Billy and Didzy not with us 2022/23 and I assume Mousset and Burke will be gone. Although, I think we'll struggle to shift the former.

I think we need 8 new players, in total, next season. Unlikely to happen given COVID and money will be tight. I do think it's worth shelling out more in the Championship because as soon as you're in the PL prices double.

 

[blades14]

Think youngsters will play there part as we will have a 46 game season in a much shorter space of time

 

[Working Class Hero]

The sheer desire, even determination, to get shut of a man with 3x promotions in 3 seasons, from the division United will likely be playing in next season, absolutely staggers me.

Especially when that would leave us with two midfielders, one of which is Ben Osborn. The club would be mental to just ditch a midfielder with his CV, who all of our promotion rivals would love to have on their books, and leave us woefully short in that position. Which Championship club wouldn't want Oliver Norwood at least in their squad anyway? Proper nonsense.

You have to remember though, on a PlayStation it's easy to just go and buy 4/5 new midfielders in the same window who all settle in, gel straight away and perform as required.

 

[robbiez666]

The sheer desire, even determination, to get shut of a man with 3x promotions in 3 seasons, from the division United will likely be playing in next season, absolutely staggers me.

Well, we could try and replace him in summer for under £10 million or, if we did go up, find a Championship midfielder for £25-30 million. That's the issue for me. Our unwillingness to look abroad means we're paying over the odds either way. I think we can probably agree though that were we to go up he's not good enough? I'm not against keeping him in the squad but we need to look for a long-term replacement (assuming Berge is going).

 

[stringer]

Especially when that would leave us with two midfielders, one of which is Ben Osborn. The club would be mental to just ditch a midfielder with his CV, who all of our promotion rivals would love to have on their books, and leave us woefully short in that position. Which Championship club wouldn't want Oliver Norwood at least in their squad anyway? Proper nonsense.

You have to remember though, on a PlayStation it's easy to just go and buy 4/5 new midfielders in the same window who all settle in, gel straight away and perform as required.

FMBlade1 hearing the word PlayStation

 

[stringer]

Have you not been watching the games?

I thought so, but then reading posts on here I do wonder

 

[ancientblade]

There's no way we'd get our money back on Brewster and why would he not stick around anyway? He's no where near a premier league player and on what I've seen so far, he'll struggle in the Championship

no we wont but im hoping we bring in the kind of creative midfielders to supply brewster with more chances and im quite hopeful if we do he will get us 20 plus goals in the championship he wont be up against international centre backs for a start

 

[BanderSerge]

There's no way we'd get our money back on Brewster and why would he not stick around anyway? He's no where near a premier league player and on what I've seen so far, he'll struggle in the Championship

Swansea go up they take both McBurnie and Brewster for more than we paid for them.

 

[bertieblade]

Boyes is the guy I was thinking of
Apparently the best LWB prospect at the club and now training with the first team
We now have
Stevens
Osborn
RND
Boyes

and Lowe, all specialist LWB

why oh why did we waste money on signing Lowe?
the balance of the squad created by Wilder is terrible
We have more LWB, goal keepers and strikers which occupy four positions ( in total ) than the other seven positions put together

minimal LCB and as we all aware minimal midfield

I like Wilder as a man and for the pleasure he has provided me and thousands of Blades when rescuing our club from the abyss of the first division. I want him to stay and take us back up but he must take advice and have help as he cannot do everything on his own. This however could be a problem as he will I believe only stay if he retains full control.
it’s all a bit catch 22, hopefully to be sorted out to mutual benefit but I doubt CW would be given the level of control he has enjoyed at any other premiership or top end championship club.

 

[steveM]

A major chink in CWs armour has been the lack of bringing through some youngsters.
Could some feature next season?
Hackford
Maguire
Gordon
Ndiaye
Brunt

Part of the reason why Hughton was replaced by Potter. Hughton never trusted youngsters despite Bloom spending a fortune on recruiting kids. Bringing on young players are the lifeblood of clubs like ours.
You can throw millions away on senior players and believe me Brighton have wasted a shit load on flops. Very easy done.
The summer window Bloom closed his wallet. We spent just 900k on Veltman. Welbeck and Lallana both freebies.That was it for 1st teamers

 

[stringer]

Boyes is the guy I was thinking of
Apparently the best LWB prospect at the club and now training with the first team
We now have
Stevens
Osborn
RND
Boyes

and Lowe, all specialist LWB

why oh why did we waste money on signing Lowe?
the balance of the squad created by Wilder is terrible
We have more LWB, goal keepers and strikers which occupy four positions ( in total ) than the other seven positions put together

minimal LCB and as we all aware minimal midfield

I like Wilder as a man and for the pleasure he has provided me and thousands of Blades when rescuing our club from the abyss of the first division. I want him to stay and take us back up but he must take advice and have help as he cannot do everything on his own. This however could be a problem as he will I believe only stay if he retains full control.
it’s all a bit catch 22, hopefully to be sorted out to mutual benefit but I doubt CW would be given the level of control he has enjoyed at any other premiership or top end championship club.

There’s about as much at LCB as anywhere else. JOC, Robinson, Bryan, Ampadu. Arguably Stevens.

Midfield: Berge, Lundstram, Norwood, Osborn, Fleck, Ampadu. Even Basham and Rodwell if needed.

As for your list of ‘Specialist LWBs’? Osborn is a midfielder. And in the summer, RND had never played higher than League One. Boyes was, and still is, just a kid, who I imagine will be earmarked for a senior loan next.
So in the summer, in terms of senior, experienced, specialist LWBs, we had...

Stevens.

Which sort of points to the answer of ‘why did we sign Lowe’. As it happens, as a PL club, I wouldn’t worry about ‘wasting’ the amount that Lowe cost up front. Piffling even by SUFC standards.

 

[ancientblade]

Swansea go up they take both McBurnie and Brewster for more than we paid for them.

i think theres every chance that swansea will be in for one if not both of them if they go up and know neither is worth it but i would put a 20m price tag on both their heads

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Boyes is the guy I was thinking of
Apparently the best LWB prospect at the club and now training with the first team
We now have
Stevens
Osborn
RND
Boyes

and Lowe, all specialist LWB

why oh why did we waste money on signing Lowe?
the balance of the squad created by Wilder is terrible
We have more LWB, goal keepers and strikers which occupy four positions ( in total ) than the other seven positions put together

minimal LCB and as we all aware minimal midfield

I like Wilder as a man and for the pleasure he has provided me and thousands of Blades when rescuing our club from the abyss of the first division. I want him to stay and take us back up but he must take advice and have help as he cannot do everything on his own. This however could be a problem as he will I believe only stay if he retains full control.
it’s all a bit catch 22, hopefully to be sorted out to mutual benefit but I doubt CW would be given the level of control he has enjoyed at any other premiership or top end championship club.

Yeah, Boyes.

 

[blade67]

The sheer desire, even determination, to get shut of a man with 3x promotions in 3 seasons, from the division United will likely be playing in next season, absolutely staggers me.

That and a key role in a 9th place premier league team as well.

He's had a terrible year, but to assume he's finished is ridiculous

 

[BladeTillIDie]

So this is our current squad.. (not including youngsters)

Ramsdale/Verrips/Wes

Baldock/Bogle
Basham/
Egan/
O'Connell/Robinson
Stevens/RND/Lowe

Berge/
Norwood/Freeman
Fleck/Osborn

McGoldrick/Sharp
McBurnie/Burke
Brewster/Mousset


You see there's 3 position's were short on and probably be 4 when Berge leaves. We really don't need to keep Bryan though..

 

[Come from away]

So this is our current squad.. (not including youngsters)

Ramsdale/Verrips/Wes

Baldock/Bogle
Basham/
Egan/
O'Connell/Robinson
Stevens/RND/Lowe

Berge/
Norwood/Freeman
Fleck/Osborn

McGoldrick/Sharp
McBurnie/Burke
Brewster/Mousset


You see there's 3 position's were short on and probably be 4 when Berge leaves. We really don't need to keep Bryan though..

Baldock did fill in for Basham

 

[BladeTillIDie]

Baldock did fill in for Basham

2 for every position lad.

 

[Mouth of the South]

Baldock did fill in for Basham

Poorly!

There is no way a player of his size and build will ever become en effect CB

 

[ancientblade]

Poorly!

There is no way a player of his size and build will ever become en effect CB

still think baldock is a better player at right back in a back 4 than wing back even more so weve got rid of that useless lump lundstram who played in front of him get bogle right side of a midfield 3 in a 433 set up

 

[Working Class Hero]

2 for every position lad.

That depends what formation the new manager wants to play though. If it's 442 then we've got everything we need in those positions, and would only need to buy wingers.

 

[LudlamBlade]

Slav also had a pretty good record of bringing academy players through at Fulham, let's hope that's something he can continue to do at the lane

 

[ancientblade]

That depends what formation the new manager wants to play though. If it's 442 then we've got everything we need in those positions, and would only need to buy wingers.

cant see slav playing 442 most of his teams have played 433 or 4231

 

[Working Class Hero]

cant see slav playing 442 most of his teams have played 433 or 4231

The point still stands though, CBs would no longer be a priority if we're only playing with two. At the end of the day no one knows whether we've got two players for each position until we know what those positions are.

 

[blade67]

So this is our current squad.. (not including youngsters)

Ramsdale/Verrips/Wes

Baldock/Bogle
Basham/
Egan/
O'Connell/Robinson
Stevens/RND/Lowe

Berge/
Norwood/Freeman
Fleck/Osborn

McGoldrick/Sharp
McBurnie/Burke
Brewster/Mousset


You see there's 3 position's were short on and probably be 4 when Berge leaves. We really don't need to keep Bryan though..

On the basis of the season just gone Jebbison should be in the forwards. He looked as effective as any of the others

 

[ancientblade]

The point still stands though, CBs would no longer be a priority if we're only playing with two. At the end of the day no one knows whether we've got two players for each position until we know what those positions are.

if we sell egan it is whether its 4 at the back or 3