Souza off!?

[LondonBlade89]

This thread is comical.

People complain about going backwards, selling better players and replacing them with inferior.....

Then I see this post littered with :

Souza overrated, unfit, doesn't play enough, now 26, didn't make it in the prem (with one of the worst prem teams on record)....

Replace with

Alzate whos:

a) Older than Souza
b) inferior to Souza
c) Didn't make it in the Prem with a much better team
d) Has played considerably less football than souza over his career.

On some level I hear what you’re saying but I don’t think anyone in this thread has been comparing Souza with Alzate, or suggesting that they’d be happy to let Souza go because we’re getting Alzate. If one person has, I apologise, but it’s not been a narrative throughout. Your logic would make it nearly impossible to comment on anything like this because of all of the caveats. I would raise the negatives you mention about Souza because I think it’s a limiting factor in his valuation. I would be OK with Souza going based on him presumably wanting to leave and us presumably needing to raise fees to sign people. I am presuming if Souza goes he’ll be more than adequately replaced. Of course I wouldn’t be OK with him going if we replaced him with a shithead. Even with all of the negatives raised about Souza - he is often unfit, he didn’t look great in the Prem, he has a habit of going missing when the chips are down - I’d definitely sooner he stayed. But what kind of shitpost it would be if everything we said had to involve some kind of decision tree.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

We just need to keep our squad together and NOT sell our best. Until the people who do this learn we will always be the losers...Currie, Jones, Birchenall, Ndiaye, etc, etc. We have a promotion squad, no doubt. We just need a few in to cover what we have and to make the team stronger, not a lot to ask for and not a great deal needs to be spent. We don't need AI to to this, my cat could!

Aye
“NOT sell our best” said every football fan ever, to no avail - go on any fan site (or in any alehouse) anywhere & see (hear) the exact same greeting & groaning about favourite sons sold (usually on the ‘cheap’) or ‘garbage’ overpaid for &/ or ‘should have signed (when they were ‘cheap’ with ‘obvious’ potential)
The PL champions have just lost (for nowt) a lad with >250 appearances (+ 30 odd @ international level)
Similarly a recent Champions League (+ multiple PL) winning club (sic) with apparently infinite resources couldn’t keep hold of one of the best players in the world.
The ‘no ambition’ narrative is wearisome, & merely a ‘trope’ for (understandable) but inevitable disappointment.
Even then to lump Souza in with “Currie, Jones, Birchenall, Ndiaye” (Salmons?, Deane?, Walker?Maguire? Brooks? Berge?) is, frankly, (little short of) ludicrous.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

If only Vini's second name was Bellingham....

Aye
If only he was as good as Bellingham n’all

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Am I correct in saying that Bettis is quoted that we paid £7m for him?

We can only sell for what people are prepared to pay, the current market value him at an apparent £13m, if others think he worth more they can easily do so, if not we have sold him for market value

Aye
And nigh on doubled our money