SotonBlade
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What's the odds of £1Mill + Add-Ons + Bjorn Helge Riise??
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FirthParkBlade
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I wouldn't be too disappointed if that was the deal.
SotonBlade
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It'd be a good deal in my opinion. Although i have a sneaky feeling Riise might be out of contract anyway
Oreyt
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Riise nearly played in the Europa final a couple of years ago. I doubt if he'd be willing to drop to the 3rd tier.
Bergen Blade
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I can't believe people who'll be happy to see an England youth international striker go for a couple of millions. It won't even be enough to cover the expenses of Nick Montgomery and Richard Cresswell's remaining contracts with us.
SteelCity Blade
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Precisely the point I made Bergen.....I agree completely. £2M might sound like a nice wedge for a young striker but we'll get that £2M and spend it on the wages of a couple of crap players. I might be in the minority but I would much prefer to keep Slew and pay him a handsome salary knowing that we have a player with some potential. No brainer IMO.
Wards
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I'd be pretty pissed off if they let him go.
Learning from your past mistakes anyone?
Learning from your past mistakes anyone?
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Its not that I would be happy to see Slew leave, quite the opposite actually. Its more a recognition of our current circumstances. We are a third tier team Fulham are playing in Europe next season. We are not in a position to do anything but sell our best/most promising players to bigger clubs. Even if we didnt need the money how could we keep the player if he expresses an interest to leave (in my opinion he would be insane not to want the move)?
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Even if we didnt need the money how could we keep the player if he expresses an interest to leave (in my opinion he would be insane not to want the move)?
Show some backbone
rely on your contractual rights
report the agent/interested club for breach of regs, notably tapping up.
Show some backbone
rely on your contractual rights
report the agent/interested club for breach of regs, notably tapping up.
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But that doesnt happen at any club. Ultimately every club is a selling club, even Man Utd. If the player says they want to go the club can do very little other than try and maximise the value of the transfer and ensure they receive a full market price. The player wants to improve their career chances by moving to a better club. Its no different to any other industry from the players' perspectives.
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Only accept the bid if you think the money offered is of more value to us than keeping the player. If the bid is rejected the player stays, and like Beech said, he'd be a fool if he didn't try to do his very best.
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But that doesnt happen at any club. Ultimately every club is a selling club, even Man Utd. If the player says they want to go the club can do very little other than try and maximise the value of the transfer and ensure they receive a full market price.
Whilst I accept that every player has his price, not everyone is supine as United. Is there another team at our level who consistently sells its best player every single season? I can't think of one. There are plenty of players in better than Slew who seemed to manage to do a full season at their respective clubs despite transfer speculation. To pluck just one example out of the air, Blackpool hung on to Charlie Adam for a full season in circumstances where United would definitely have sold him.
those pesky agents make trouble at the Lane because they know we are a soft touch.
Whilst I accept that every player has his price, not everyone is supine as United. Is there another team at our level who consistently sells its best player every single season? I can't think of one. There are plenty of players in better than Slew who seemed to manage to do a full season at their respective clubs despite transfer speculation. To pluck just one example out of the air, Blackpool hung on to Charlie Adam for a full season in circumstances where United would definitely have sold him.
those pesky agents make trouble at the Lane because they know we are a soft touch.
The club should show some balls and tell him he is under contract for the next number of years and he ain't going anyway. What's the point of contracts if you don't inforce them
Jim Chimmerney
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He was supposedly out with Kyle W over the weekend and a few had a chat with him. Apparently he's leaving because the club has 'no direction'. Kyle W was splashing the cash for champers all round
Seems a strange thing for an 18 year old to come out with, but then again he's not going to say, "me bezzy mate's down there and I'll get £7K a week and as many birds as I can eat".
GRUMPY BLADE
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Thats the point I've been making. You still finish up spending the dosh but history shows you will be buying dross instead of 'investing'.
If prem clubs think one of our players are worth a punt then this should be a better yard stick than using our own judgement based on the last six mamagers appointed.
Jim Chimmerney
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True Grumps and exactly what McCabe said t'other week, we've not given the kids a chance but have used journeymen and loans instead. I'm not saying we won't give Slew a chance this season, I'm sure he'd be in the squad but the principle is the same, why spend money on bringing peoplein when they're already in front of you.
Does he want to stay, simple as.
broomhillblade
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Slew has done ok, but he's still to prove himself.
He lacks the extra pace to frighten and hasn't shown enough in the air to be considered a strong striker at any level. If he was THAT special he would be a first team regular already and not forcing his way in now. The cold, harsh relality of our situation says that if the price is right then we should be able to replace him with a more rounded and proven performer for less. The only certainty is that whoever replaces him will be paid more. There lies the gamble for me. Our situation dictates that a return to the Champ is more important to revenue than giving him a season of first team football that may not be as successful as a large section of our fans are deluded to think he'll be. Whilst I wouldn't want to see the money spent on a 30+ journey man I also don't think Slew has it in him to be our saviour. £2m fee would be maybe £1m up front. Say £500k to spend and further £500k that finances a salary of the signing for a year. Use his fee to pay a wage to unsettle someone elses startlet who could do the same job or better!?
Jim Chimmerney
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Don't get your logic. You're saying he's shown nothing yet think he should be worth £2M ? Which, 'rounded and proven performer' do you think we should be looking at that will cost us less money than retaining him ?
As an aside, how much did Messi and Villa show 'in the air' on Saturday ?
Balham
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Connor Wickham, he of £7m rating fame, played 41 games for Ipswich last season, scoring 9 goals (0.22 goals/game)
Jordan Slew, he of apparent £500k rating, played 8 games last season, scoring 2 goals (0.25 goals/game).
Slew is also 5 months younger than Wickham and would have played in an age bracket below. I'm not saying that Slew will be as good as Wickham (or, indeed, that Wickham will be as good as the media hype around him) but surely it would be better to try and convince him to stay?
Jordan Slew, he of apparent £500k rating, played 8 games last season, scoring 2 goals (0.25 goals/game).
Slew is also 5 months younger than Wickham and would have played in an age bracket below. I'm not saying that Slew will be as good as Wickham (or, indeed, that Wickham will be as good as the media hype around him) but surely it would be better to try and convince him to stay?
SwissBlade
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Can Wickham be as good as Slew?
SotonBlade
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It'd do Slew no harm to spend at least next season with us. I think Pembo will be working hard with Wilson to convince him to stay, even if it's for the short term!
Oreyt
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On punability alone Slew should be worth well more.
'Wickham Wanders' is all good if he has an off game, but there's little more to work with.
'Blades Slew The Owls ' ' A Slew of Goals'....er.....um...'Blades Never Slews'....loads more.
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If young Connor moves to Wigan and starts to wear a wig made of ham, I may have to concede defeat.
Pretty sure I said £1m upfront and as a fee for a player with potential that is about fair. But Wilson's job is to maximise the squad potential and for me I don't see improvement coming in the areas required at a rate fast enough to help us. To bounce straight back we need a strike partnership of 60 goals and I don't see Slew playing 50 games and scoring 30 times. I firmly believe that he scored those goals because he was under no pressure to perform and had confidence to actually strike on goal. I don't see him giving the return a more seasoned player might bring next season and I won't be pinning my hopes on him should he stay. He shouldn't be one of our main 2 strikers for me until the season after and will he stay and grow but be 2nd fiddle?
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Ah, but he has no beefburger at home. He has a manky old pork scratching, one of the ones with the ink stamped on, all hairy and stale and harder than a Chris Morgan tackle, dropped down the side of the settee some weeks ago and only discovered when he looked for his Nintendo DS stylus.
Jim Chimmerney
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But you did say a fee of £2M
I agree that Slew is nowhere near guaranteed to be a success next season nor guaranteed to even start many games but surely holding onto such a player is key to what we are trying to do at the club, not sell up and bring in a Dele Adebola type as a 'quick fix'.
Again, it all depends who is left from the current squad when DW sets out to build a team but as stated elsewhere, it seems madness to offload Slew IF he wants to stay.
If he wants to stay then I'd give him this season to see what he can do, but he still wouldn't be in my ideal starting 11. If he can force himself forward then I will happily eat my words, but he has a season to show worth and earn a decent deal with us - otherwise I'd say he should be sold on and get in what we can.
But if silly money is offered right now then as an asset of the club it might be in the best interests. I assume DW and the Board have ideas on who is available and at what price in terms of finding additional squad members, but I would like to hear more about us releasing/selling some of the deadwood.
But if silly money is offered right now then as an asset of the club it might be in the best interests. I assume DW and the Board have ideas on who is available and at what price in terms of finding additional squad members, but I would like to hear more about us releasing/selling some of the deadwood.
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