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becoming Notts County in red and white.
There is still time yet….
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becoming Notts County in red and white.
That side was pathetic as was the Martin Peters shambles.So you would consider this lot worse than a side that conceded 4 at home to Shrewsbury and 3 at home to Bury?,
No. They are worse because they SHOULD be better given their supposed standards and incentives.
This is not a difficult concept.
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That made me think what our biggest drop in league positions in consecutive seasons was, as that gives some measure of underperforming expectations. Theres been 7 seasons where we've dropped 12 or more places.With all respect, it is a difficult concept. You’re positioning the case as though there can be two measurable values:
1. Expected achievement.
2. Actual achievement.
…with ‘worst’ being the team with the greatest negative magnitude of difference between the two.
The second measure can easily be measured by league position. Presumably the first has to measured by subjective opinion? Or were you thinking of an objective measure like a previous league position? Maybe the end of the previous season? If so, your measure would need to be adjusted based on the transfers in and out, available budget and other constrictions. How would you quantify those?
Out of interest, would your definition of ‘best’ be the reverse of this? That would probably make Bob Booker our best ever player.
Interestingly, post relegation we've never finished below halfway the following season.That made me think what our biggest drop in league positions in consecutive seasons was, as that gives some measure of underperforming expectations. Theres been 7 seasons where we've dropped 12 or more places.
1974-76 16 places (6th to 22nd)
1897-99 15 places (1st to16th)
2009-11 15 places (8th to 23rd)
1978-80 14 places (20th D2 to 12th D3)
1906-08 13 places (4th to 17th)
1932-34 12 places (10th to 22nd)
1986-88 12 places (9th to 21st)
And Craig Fenwick or was it Renwick. Can't remember now it was so bad I have tried to delete the memory of it.The one which had John Flood,Mike Guy and Dougie Brown
Crawley and Hartlepool gamesThe team under David Weir.
I think relative to expectations this is definitely the worst side of my time supporting United. It just compounds the fact we are a club that is forever wrong time wrong place.
He had a really awful knack of pulling out a result or two just as it looked like he might be justifiably sacked. Very frustrating times but they weren't as scary as the situation we have right now.If that’s your criteria then it’s without doubt the Robson era.
Not sure about worst team but I do love to think of my worst xi, only since 2003/4 so may be missing some older ones I'm sure, and a new entry just because of how much I detest him!
Steve Simonsen
Darryl Westlake - Mark McGuinness - Nyron Nosworthy - Marcus Williams
Febian Brandy - Dean Hammond - Jonny Ertl - Martyn Woolford
Connor Sammon - Jon Forte
Honourable mentions for John Cofie, Adam Davies, Tony McMahon, Neill Collins, Michael Doyle (personal vendetta), Joe Mattock, Simon Lappin, Aidy White, Jordan Stewart, Andy Taylor - god we've had some shit left backs haven't we
Was there . Nailed on worst . Add that the distance to get there and 3rd degree sunburnGillingham away first game
The last six games were ok though, including a cracking goal from Woody to win at Leeds.I was full of optimism in 1975 76 after narrowly missing out on Europe. Abject season ensued.
I'm pleased that someone has saved me making that argument.With all respect, it is a difficult concept. You’re positioning the case as though there can be two measurable values:
1. Expected achievement.
2. Actual achievement.
…with ‘worst’ being the team with the greatest negative magnitude of difference between the two.
The second measure can easily be measured by league position. Presumably the first has to measured by subjective opinion? Or were you thinking of an objective measure like a previous league position? Maybe the end of the previous season? If so, your measure would need to be adjusted based on the transfers in and out, available budget and other constrictions. How would you quantify those?
Out of interest, would your definition of ‘best’ be the reverse of this? That would probably make Bob Booker our best ever player.
I am experiencing PTSD symptoms reading thisNot sure about worst team but I do love to think of my worst xi, only since 2003/4 so may be missing some older ones I'm sure, and a new entry just because of how much I detest him!
Steve Simonsen
Darryl Westlake - Mark McGuinness - Nyron Nosworthy - Marcus Williams
Febian Brandy - Dean Hammond - Jonny Ertl - Martyn Woolford
Connor Sammon - Jon Forte
Honourable mentions for John Cofie, Adam Davies, Tony McMahon, Neill Collins, Michael Doyle (personal vendetta), Joe Mattock, Simon Lappin, Aidy White, Jordan Stewart, Andy Taylor - god we've had some shit left backs haven't we
id swap McGuinness for Mceveley & Simonsen for Mark BunnNot sure about worst team but I do love to think of my worst xi, only since 2003/4 so may be missing some older ones I'm sure, and a new entry just because of how much I detest him!
Steve Simonsen
Darryl Westlake - Mark McGuinness - Nyron Nosworthy - Marcus Williams
Febian Brandy - Dean Hammond - Jonny Ertl - Martyn Woolford
Connor Sammon - Jon Forte
Honourable mentions for John Cofie, Adam Davies, Tony McMahon, Neill Collins, Michael Doyle (personal vendetta), Joe Mattock, Simon Lappin, Aidy White, Jordan Stewart, Andy Taylor - god we've had some shit left backs haven't we
id swap McGuinness for Mceveley & Simonsen for Mark Bunn
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