Scary that Tom Cannon....

[SUFCinks]

Didn't it come out at the time that the Cannon signing was one pushed by the owners rather than one Wilder was demanding we spent 10m on? Wilder has a habit of wasting big transfer fees but sure I remember that this one was the owners target to make a statement.

That being said, really have no idea what Cannon offers. People say he doesn't fit the system but I have no idea what system he would fit. Doesn't get involved in play, doesn't seem to make good runs, doesn't win headers, doesn't seem to get in poachers positions and not even sure I have seen that he is a clean striker of the ball that was said of him. Hope I am wrong on all of the above but not sure what has made people see him as a 10+m striker.

I can’t believe that first paragraph. Why on earth would the American owners have their eye on Tom Cannon of all players? Makes no sense to me.

 

[Melbourne Blade]

Interesting (ish) fact. And it's a very basic calc. Stoke have scored more goals (23) than we have (20) since January. In all competitions.

So they're probably not missing him albeit they're still mired in a relegation battle.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

I can’t believe that first paragraph. Why on earth would the American owners have their eye on Tom Cannon of all players? Makes no sense to me.

Surely Wilder could have said no to it

No level of desperation can justify spending that on him at this level. And we weren't even all that desperate. Even at the time it felt like it wouldn't be a disaster waiting for deadline day for a striker and seeing what drops..... in which case it would have been Adam Armstrong.
CB was the urgent signing and we fucked around there, and ended up with an expensive loan without strengthening the first team. But we did get a couple of random foreign kids (I think?). Harry Clarke is obviously a total non entity and BBD is looking poor. So we're in a situation where Choudhury is the best January signing. That shouldn't have been the case

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

The panic tonight was surreal. It was as if we couldn't function mentally with a deficit

Isn't that because we've not been coached what to do?

In the NFL they talk about situational planning all the time. Looks to me we don't do anything like that at all. The subs last night made the unbalance even worse. At least in the old days, Basham off for another striker looked like something we'd practiced.

Last night looked like we were making it up as we go along...

 

[Carlton Blade]

Isn't that because we've not been coached what to do?

In the NFL they talk about situational planning all the time. Looks to me we don't do anything like that at all. The subs last night made the unbalance even worse. At least in the old days, Basham off for another striker looked like something we'd practiced.

Last night looked like we were making it up as we go along...

The team looked like it had no idea how to go about opening up a packed defence that has a lead to hold on to.

I think it's very much a general ethos under Wilder, rather than specific instruction

 

[Not so Slim ane]

Even if

I can’t believe that first paragraph. Why on earth would the American owners have their eye on Tom Cannon of all players? Makes no sense to me.

Agree that's got to be bollocks

I remember listening to an interview with the prince about Wilder, and his main criticism was that wilder had no plan b with transfer targets so clubs were holding us to ransom.

When we signed Brewster the prince had asked wilder to give him a list of 3 or 4 players for the same position but wilder was insistent it was only Brewster and we massively overpaid.... Sounds like the same sort of situation with cannon to me

 

[AnstonBlade1]

£33m on strikers that don’t score only us

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

At least be fair with it, we brought him on to put him up against Cooper with poorly placed balls in the air. He made at least a couple of decent runs, one where we actually played a ball to where he wanted it.

Whilst you’d have expected more of an impact since signing…

There’s a list of folk - playing panic, try and force it desperately when it’s not there, abandon any shape or plan football - to go down before getting anywhere near Cannon tonight.

Aye
And(without in any way denigrating Campbell) :-
Cannon ‘contributed’ more than TC last night (albeit with no ‘end result’): decent strike on target & ‘created’ (half) chance for O’Hare
Our forward (s?) were (mostly) chasing lost causes throughout the game - not especially unheard of & especially not once we went behind to a side that knew / knows how to defend a lead & grind out a win (sound familiar ?)

 

[The Vicar]

Ryan One looked like a much better bet than Cannon. The experience alone would have been an investment for the future without wasting £10 million. I cannot see what Cannon offers playing this style of football (whatever that style is?).

 

[TJ blade]

Wilder bought Cannon. Cannon is shite.

The term scapegoat should be changed to honest opinion.

Bet you think he’s greatso kudos to you.

10 million wasted. That with the 20 million on Brewster. Awesome!

Both of them don't come close to Didzy! Maybe throw Leon in the mix! Total waste of fucking money!

 

[TJ blade]

£33m on strikers that don’t score only us

Staggering

 

[Iffy Onuora's Shiny Head]

At the moment I just haven't seen any attribute thats made us want to sign him. Not blaming him for us spending £10m, but so far on what I've Seen:

• Isn't quick
• Isn't strong
• Isn't good in the air
• Isn't a high presser
• Doesn't run in behind
• Doesn't come short and link up play
• Isn't a poacher

 

[SUFCinks]

Even if

Agree that's got to be bollocks

I remember listening to an interview with the prince about Wilder, and his main criticism was that wilder had no plan b with transfer targets so clubs were holding us to ransom.

When we signed Brewster the prince had asked wilder to give him a list of 3 or 4 players for the same position but wilder was insistent it was only Brewster and we massively overpaid.... Sounds like the same sort of situation with cannon to me

I think its more likely than an our owners ignoring their own data analytics to sign a guy with average to poor statistics.

 

[Keen Blade]

Maybe Brewster's upturn in form is due to everyone now focussing on Cannon and calling him a useless cunt now thus allowing him to just crack on

Brewster's upturn in form could be down to his previously increasing likelihood of unemployment.

 

[Keen Blade]

I can’t believe that first paragraph. Why on earth would the American owners have their eye on Tom Cannon of all players? Makes no sense to me.

Stats

 

[Not so Slim ane]

£33m on strikers that don’t score only us

Not only don't score but weaken the team by getting picked ahead of better players because of their prices tags

 

[SUFCinks]

Stats

But his stats aren't good. So makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Keen Blade]

Not only don't score but weaken the team by getting picked ahead of better players because of their prices tags

Cannon isn't getting picked ahead of Campbell

 

[Keen Blade]

But his stats aren't good. So makes absolutely no sense.

My Stats should have had a ? mark

 

[Not so Slim ane]

Cannon isn't getting picked ahead of Campbell

No but he's coming off the bench over Moore and One

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Given the Lazarus like resurrection of (opinion surrounding) the ability of Moore & Brewster surely the solution to ‘improving’ Cannon is to sign someone ‘worse’ (if possible?) for 15 million.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

He'd probably do alright in their team, but then again he might not, if he didn't fit into Oxfords style of play they and no other club, except one would have fucking bought him

My point entirely, I find it bizarre Wilder bought Cannon knowing he didn’t really fit into our style of play. In a golf analogy, we’ve got a driver in our bag, when we’re playing a par 3 course.

 

[Tom Bott]

In the NFL they talk about situational planning all the time. Looks to me we don't do anything like that at all.

In every NFL game one team looses.

I've supported the 49ers, from the days of Joe Montana, Jerry Rice and Roger Craig, those three were so magnificent they raised the performance of the rest of the team and were unstoppable.

Where have the 49ers been since then.

Sport is a team game, including the fans.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

But that’s more to do with Campbell’s good form than Cannon’s inability to make an impression.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

£33m on strikers that don’t score only us

Callum Robinson
Oli Burke
Brewster
McBurnie
Cannon
Pieman Mousset.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Whilst on the not scoring topic: by my count it's now about 534 Jacky 'long throws' since we scored from one. No plan b as with many other aspects of our game.
Mentioned earlier: there was no need to replace Campbell/Brewster with 2 out of form players who haven't scored this year. Love Vinnie but he's not a match winner, O'hare or Davis would have been better choice. Putting Raksaki onis a gamble as wingers are either on or off. Putting Alfie on & Seriki further forward would have been my choice.
Peck made himself 4 or 5 chances & looked as likely to score as anyone, why take him off???

530 of them have landed in the opposition goalkeeper’s hands about a foot above his head inside the 6 yard box.

 

[Keen Blade]

My point entirely, I find it bizarre Wilder bought Cannon knowing he didn’t really fit into our style of play. In a golf analogy, we’ve got a driver in our bag, when we’re playing a par 3 course.

But Wilder could leave the driver in his bag ....
And chooses to use it coz it was expensive

 

[Nick Jansky]

Cometh the hour, cometh the man…

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Callum Robinson
Oli Burke
Brewster
McBurnie
Cannon
Pieman Mousset.

In fairness to Robinson/Burke, that was a swap deal. Robinson was also an experiment. We didn't have any pace up top and Robinson scored and created lots of goals from the wing in the Championship. Wilder tried to turn him into a striker to give us pace up top. It didn't work.