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The funnies bit of the ref for me was when Norwood nearly decapitated the Milwall player in the last minute then played on

Then didn't even go back and book him
 

We can’t keep blaming referees, yes he was poor, Millwall number 17 should have walked, some bad decisions made, got sending off spot on. But again, we can't play above 90 minutes, chances missed, tackles not made, keeping errors. Endless list that needs sorting before we blame the refs.
 
gavtheblade said:
If refs are gonna yellow card those decisions like gibbs white,then the premier league pussies better watch out.jeezuz wept,get this season finished.
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My thoughts exactly. I can't stand diving so I'm happy for refs to book this blatant cheating. However, we all know that the likes of Salah, Rashford and Aubamayang do this every week and are rarely booked and often get a spot kick. Jack Grealish was actually praised during an England match last week for his ability to "draw contract in the box".
 
They'll continue diving whilst ever they're allowed to get away with it. This was one of the most blatant dives I've ever seen:-

 
FallowfieldBlade said:
The funnies bit of the ref for me was when Norwood nearly decapitated the Milwall player in the last minute then played on

Then didn't even go back and book him
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That is actually the Law now. Was a change this season. Where the referee plays advantage, they do not go back and book. Although I think the ref in the Leicester game at the weekend forgot that. Key point on Fleck is that he did give the foul.
 
MobileBlade said:
That is actually the Law now. Was a change this season. Where the referee plays advantage, they do not go back and book. Although I think the ref in the Leicester game at the weekend forgot that. Key point on Fleck is that he did give the foul.
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Is it ??? That's bonkers nearly as daft as the offside rule where a player has to touch the ball to be offside
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
Is it ??? That's bonkers nearly as daft as the offside rule where a player has to touch the ball to be offside
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International Board Decision:

"If the referee plays ADVANTAGE for an offence which 'interfered with or stopped a promising attack', the caution (yellow card, YC) is NOT issued."
 
MobileBlade said:
International Board Decision:

"If the referee plays ADVANTAGE for an offence which 'interfered with or stopped a promising attack', the caution (yellow card, YC) is NOT issued."
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Does 'advantage' also mean taking the free kick quickly or is that a separate?

(referring to the Saville decision not to book him)
 
Alan Birchenall's hair said:
Ref was shit, but I don't think his decisions cost us anything. MGW cost us by flopping like a cock after 10 pints....
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Fair enough. Although if we are booking for diving then fucking book players every week for it, not just when you feel like booking a player.

I have seen enough players this season fall on their arse in our penalty box but I don't see the man in the middle rushing over to wave a card.
 
FMBlade1 said:
Does 'advantage' also mean taking the free kick quickly or is that a separate?

(referring to the Saville decision not to book him)
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No in that instance, the referee has given the free kick so should have pulled it back and cautioned the player. But he apparently said he didn't book him because he thought there was another defender in the vicinity of the incident.
 
MobileBlade said:
International Board Decision:

"If the referee plays ADVANTAGE for an offence which 'interfered with or stopped a promising attack', the caution (yellow card, YC) is NOT issued."
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Fair enough

That’s pretty crazy though a red card would have had much more advantage than a break
 
We lost not because of the ref
But because we failed to put away our chances
Diddzy twice had chances to start us off first half
Put us in front
That’s where we lost yes the ref was shite
But so were we
 
MobileBlade said:
International Board Decision:

"If the referee plays ADVANTAGE for an offence which 'interfered with or stopped a promising attack', the caution (yellow card, YC) is NOT issued."
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So a player makes a two footed or dangerous tackle, and the ref plays advantage, he cant issue a caution ?
 

The thing is if Grealish/Ronaldo/Salah/Zaha did this, they fundamentally wouldn't have got booked so why would MGW? Literally bias because the are "A-listers"
 
Ref was poor like most Championship refs but he didn't cost us the game. We did that ourselves.

Despite our flaws last night I also thought there was some decent stuff too.

We created some good openings, Osborne messed up the final lay off to Enda, Didzy twice etc.

Slav was quick to react to stuff not working and I actually thought we were quite positive and dictated possession for good spells with 10.

Very frustrated with last night but I can't get the reaction of some.
 
Davalon said:
Ref was poor like most Championship refs but he didn't cost us the game. We did that ourselves.

Despite our flaws last night I also thought there was some decent stuff too.

We created some good openings, Osborne messed up the final lay off to Enda, Didzy twice etc.

Slav was quick to react to stuff not working and I actually thought we were quite positive and dictated possession for good spells with 10.

Very frustrated with last night but I can't get the reaction of some.
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True Conor wasn't in the game and he tried to change that early on. Which did work as we won the penalty and I do think without the sending off we would have won the match last night.

SJ knows our flaws and is doing his best to correct them.
 
I've said it before, so here goes again! Get ex pros up to speed on the laws of the game. They can read the game better, then some bloke who fancied a part time job.
Plus some of them will be able to do 90 mins. Unlike some of these refs who look as if they are about to have a dickie-fit.
 
Our players are a little naive which is surprising after some of them played in the PL.The were up against the best of them tumble roll and hold their ankles after tackles.
There probably would of been a sending off yesterday after Saville took out Fleck instead of staying down Fleck popped back up he made it easy for the ref to say no card for that. That ref Mr Matthew Donohoe this season has given 4 red cards in 9 games. That lad badly needs a refresher course or drop him to League 1.
 
Yes Ref and officials were poor but Utd didn't do much either, the passion isn't there anymore ... we got bullied again by a physical team so we need to recruit a few who can/will put it about UTB
 
Just a thought...why not look at dives after matches, and issue red cards and bans retrospectively? If players know they're going to get a ban, they might think twice about it maybe? MGW was a fucking idiot last night doing that when he was already booked.
 
FMBlade1 said:
What's going to be done about this? Are there any deterrents? Mouth of the South respect your post but whatever they are they aren't enough.

To be clear I don't mind mistakes if they are understandable/reasonable but there was literally no excusing that performance and decision making this evening.

It's like a doctor has a difficult job, but it's not excusable for them to punch you in the face rather than giving you CPR and if they did that they'd rightly get sacked for gross negligence/misconduct, this is something similar.

Yes I'm angry but it's just not good enough.
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I didn't watch last night's game so can't comment on the ref. However my dad who used to be a L2a official i.e. League line / Conference & Central League ref described his performance as attrocious.

Please don't think I automatically defend officials - whilst I think there a some excellent ones out there at all levels inc Prem and League, the overall standard is not good enough.
To your point about what can be done - IMHO there is no quick fix availabl and it will take a huge investment to firstly attract people to the role at all levels and then to develop a pathway for their development. The temptation of promoting too quickly also needs to be avoided.

I must be one of the few people that feel that trying to persuade ex-pros to take it up would be a huge mistake. Some may be decent but just as a good player doesn't necessarily make a good coach/manager, the same would go for players becoming officials as the skillsets are very different.
 
MobileBlade said:
International Board Decision:

"If the referee plays ADVANTAGE for an offence which 'interfered with or stopped a promising attack', the caution (yellow card, YC) is NOT issued."
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That’s a bonkers rule!
 

Not the worst we've had, but a clear and obvious error with the goal.
 
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