Player contracts

[Deadbat]

As it stands 18 first team players will be leaving, that's not including the under 18s/21s squads.

Loans returning;
Thomas
McAtee
Larouci

Out of contract;
Foderingham
Amissah
Davies
Baldock
Bogle
Norrington-Davies
Lowe
Basham
Egan
Norwood
Coulibaly
Fleck
Osborn
McBurnie
Jebbison

Anyone you'd actually want to keep? Can't say I'd be bothered about many.

The only ones I'd keep assuming as expected we'd be in Champ would be:

Wes - 1 year deal - Champ level is ok
Baldock - 2-3 years - consistent and very good level below
RND - depends on fitness/return but would like to keep if he comes back and is near the level he was
McBurnie - 1 year - no more due to his fitness record


The rest including Egan and Norwood I think it is time to say goodbye.

Fleck and Osborn should have gone this summer.

Bash sorry way to end but he may not play again.

Bogle and Lowe 10 million pounds was it? Both nowhere near good enough. Bogle seemed to be a really good prospect but he looks nowhere near now and seems to be a lower league player like Lowe.

Jebbison for all the hype has done little for me. Not sure I would be concerned if he moves on. We have been waiting 3 years for him to realise some promise. Granted teams seem interested in him?

So at most I'd keep 3 or 4 - but only Baldock is 100%. Wes I think is replacable. The other 2 injury prone.

With the loans going back, I think most of the foreign development players would move on too - Souza, Traore and Slimane - but we'd lose money on them.

It would mean we would effectively be signing a new team.

 

[Rodley]

The only ones I'd keep assuming as expected we'd be in Champ would be:

Wes - 1 year deal - Champ level is ok
Baldock - 2-3 years - consistent and very good level below
RND - depends on fitness/return but would like to keep if he comes back and is near the level he was
McBurnie - 1 year - no more due to his fitness record


The rest including Egan and Norwood I think it is time to say goodbye.

Fleck and Osborn should have gone this summer.

Bash sorry way to end but he may not play again.

Bogle and Lowe 10 million pounds was it? Both nowhere near good enough. Bogle seemed to be a really good prospect but he looks nowhere near now and seems to be a lower league player like Lowe.

Jebbison for all the hype has done little for me. Not sure I would be concerned if he moves on. We have been waiting 3 years for him to realise some promise. Granted teams seem interested in him?

So at most I'd keep 3 or 4 - but only Baldock is 100%. Wes I think is replacable. The other 2 injury prone.

With the loans going back, I think most of the foreign development players would move on too - Souza, Traore and Slimane - but we'd lose money on them.

It would mean we would effectively be signing a new team.

We’re going to go down, we’ll have to sell two valuable (I know!) players to stabilise (one being Archer going back) and then bring in 10-15 players of Championship quality with a tiny budget. It’s not do-able.

Given we seem to subscribe to this laughable strategy of bringing our players in at the end of the transfer window and we have no money whatsoever, I wouldn’t discount another car crash of a start.

Need a change of ownership, now more than ever.

 

[ton-up]

We’re going to go down, we’ll have to sell two valuable (I know!) players to stabilise (one being Archer going back) and then bring in 10-15 players of Championship quality with a tiny budget. It’s not do-able.

Given we seem to subscribe to this laughable strategy of bringing our players in at the end of the transfer window and we have no money whatsoever, I wouldn’t discount another car crash of a start.

Need a change of ownership, now more than ever.

I would have thought that the new signings required will be from free agents, players with one year left, etc, lower leagues, and CW did this the last time it needed doing. The days of Norwood, Egan, Fleck, Osbourne could be over very soon.

 

[HarryHaslam]

We’re going to go down, we’ll have to sell two valuable (I know!) players to stabilise (one being Archer going back) and then bring in 10-15 players of Championship quality with a tiny budget. It’s not do-able.

Agreed, constantly see that we will be strong and have a good chance of coming back up with this side next year, what side? It’s a total rebuild next season which could see us once again languishing in the championship or even league 1 again for years and years.

Which is why we have to throw the dice and get a new manager in straight away, it may not work but it might, you never know… let’s try and stay up while we are here instead of accepting relegation and giving it ahh heckys such a nice bloke, not even Pep would get us playing any better etc etc.. absolute bull, let’s throw the dice while there is still some life in us before the shambles that awaits us next season if we are down.

 

[John Cutsbushes]

Defo got to fuck McBurnie off.
His body isn't up to the rigours of pro football.

 

[Pintor75]

Wes, as back up for new keeper
Baldock
Egan
McBurnie
Jebbison
RND, only if he's fit to start,otherwise pension him off
Jebbison I'd sell on January and use the money to get Doyle in on loan with option to buy

 

[Rodley]

I would have thought that the new signings required will be from free agents, players with one year left, etc, lower leagues, and CW did this the last time it needed doing. The days of Norwood, Egan, Fleck, Osbourne could be over very soon.

Even with that, to get decent free transfers you’ll be looking at £250,000+ as a signing on fee per player. Decent players more.

 

[secretchief]

It would be sensible to attempt to extend Bogle/Baldock/Fods/Egan/Mcburnie/Jebbo

It is a big gamble at this point that Bogle and Jebbo will kick on, granted

Maybe RND will return but if not sack off all current left backs anyway.

I am assuming the floorkicker will stay though I can't see him having much of an effect

Assuming Anel is sold and Souza is loaned out/sold you sort of have a team like this:

Fods

Baldock/Bogle - Egan - Trusty/Robinson - (Hopefully) RND

Hamer - Floorkicker - Slimane + presumably Blaster

Then some variety of

Jebbo/mcburnie/Traore/Osula/Brewster

Hopefully whatever happens that's Brewster's last season and you cross your fingers that one or two of the young strikers gets good

This is assuming they don't attempt to extend the contracts of the old guard again.

It's not great but it's not terrible in the league below.

edit: we can assume zero recruitment in January because no-one will want to play in the league below, that ship has already sailed.

 

[ton-up]

Even with that, to get decent free transfers you’ll be looking at £250,000+ as a signing on fee per player. Decent players more.

CW had to move players on last time, that is what is required again, many just let go who are being paid decent contracts and some that should be sellable for fees (we will lose money on these though) and we will have to try and go/build again.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

I'm with Deadbat when it comes to Jebbison. Two seasons ago we sent him to Burton in League One. He did okay. We recalled him due to an injury crisis (no, really, who was in charge then?), where he did nothing. Last season we kept him and he was fit nearly all season despite the front line suffering constant injuries (no, really?). He did nothing. In pre-season he looked bang average. I've seen nothing to suggest he's anything other than a League One striker. If he left we wouldn't miss anything other than overhype from deluded fans who think he's the next big thing because he scored one goal in the Premier League three seasons ago.

I'd retain Wes, A Davies, Baldock, Robinson, Norrington-Davies, Osula, Anel, Brewster, Slimane, Traore, Souza, Trusty and Hamer.

The rest can all go as far as I'm concerned. I've kept Anel, Brewster, Slimane, Traore, Trusty, Hamer and Souza as they're all still under contract beyond next summer.

My concern is how many have one year options to extend which we'll take up again, leaving us stuck with these useless ineffective cretins.

 

[Rudders]

I'm with Deadbat when it comes to Jebbison. Two seasons ago we sent him to Burton in League One. He did okay. We recalled him due to an injury crisis (no, really, who was in charge then?), where he did nothing. Last season we kept him and he was fit nearly all season despite the front line suffering constant injuries (no, really?). He did nothing. In pre-season he looked bang average. I've seen nothing to suggest he's anything other than a League One striker. If he left we wouldn't miss anything other than overhype from deluded fans who think he's the next big thing because he scored one goal in the Premier League three seasons ago.

I'd retain Wes, A Davies, Baldock, Robinson, Norrington-Davies, Osula, Anel, Brewster, Slimane, Traore, Souza, Trusty and Hamer.

The rest can all go as far as I'm concerned. I've kept Anel, Brewster, Slimane, Traore, Trusty, Hamer and Souza as they're all still under contract beyond next summer.

My concern is how many have one year options to extend which we'll take up again, leaving us stuck with these useless ineffective cretins.

Seems a bit harsh, he's probably a good player technically or have some of the attributes to become a good player BUT - and its a big but (oo er mrs) he seems to be incredibly injury prone so much so that I doubt he can have a decent career. In the last 3 years he's probably only been available for 15 games. Same seems to be true with Osula. Its like they are learning from Brewster and McBurnie how to have legs and bodies made from wet cardboard.

I long for a season where one of our strikers plays about 5 games in a row. Illy was really durable in this respect and also 3 years ago with a 33 year old Billy Sharp.

And don't get me started on a strike duo building up a decent partnership.

We've either got a squad full of crocks or a manager who injures them due to training. Or maybe both.

This is why Hecky's got to go for me. Good at introducing youth to the team but also good at injuring youth and when they get injured they are out for a loonnnnggg time.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Hopefully get shot of all those who have claimed money off the club while been on the treatment table.

The days of Norwood and Fleck weren't good enough in the prem last time why 2 years later some one thought they'd be great this time round?

Osborn, mcburnie, bash, bogle, lowe etc all go for me as well as Norwood fleck brewster

All the crap we have signed this summer from abroad can go, archer waste of money will go back anyway. Hamer will be off as well

We can literally start again

 

[fleckagainagainagain…]

I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion we’ll even be able to renew the ones we do want.

You could see a promoted club or top end championship team taking Baldock on a free. Egan I get the feeling he’s wanted to move on for a while and he seems checked out already (which was why it was a bad idea making him captain).

Even if they end up doing sideways moves to the championship - the players would pick up a good signing on fee so probably would prefer that. After a year getting embarrassed in the PL with us, and their reputations taking a big hit, plus lack of ambition/direction off field, there isn’t much reason to recommend staying with us if they have any other offers.

 

[Newbury Blade]

The only ones I'd keep assuming as expected we'd be in Champ would be:

Wes - 1 year deal - Champ level is ok
Baldock - 2-3 years - consistent and very good level below
RND - depends on fitness/return but would like to keep if he comes back and is near the level he was
McBurnie - 1 year - no more due to his fitness record


The rest including Egan and Norwood I think it is time to say goodbye.

Fleck and Osborn should have gone this summer.

Bash sorry way to end but he may not play again.

Bogle and Lowe 10 million pounds was it? Both nowhere near good enough. Bogle seemed to be a really good prospect but he looks nowhere near now and seems to be a lower league player like Lowe.

Jebbison for all the hype has done little for me. Not sure I would be concerned if he moves on. We have been waiting 3 years for him to realise some promise. Granted teams seem interested in him?

So at most I'd keep 3 or 4 - but only Baldock is 100%. Wes I think is replacable. The other 2 injury prone.

With the loans going back, I think most of the foreign development players would move on too - Souza, Traore and Slimane - but we'd lose money on them.

It would mean we would effectively be signing a new team.

No reason Slimane and Traore would move unless the manager whoever he is then didn’t want them. They’re contracted and would probably do OK in the Championship.

 

[Newbury Blade]

The only ones I'd keep assuming as expected we'd be in Champ would be:

Wes - 1 year deal - Champ level is ok
Baldock - 2-3 years - consistent and very good level below
RND - depends on fitness/return but would like to keep if he comes back and is near the level he was
McBurnie - 1 year - no more due to his fitness record


The rest including Egan and Norwood I think it is time to say goodbye.

Fleck and Osborn should have gone this summer.

Bash sorry way to end but he may not play again.

Bogle and Lowe 10 million pounds was it? Both nowhere near good enough. Bogle seemed to be a really good prospect but he looks nowhere near now and seems to be a lower league player like Lowe.

Jebbison for all the hype has done little for me. Not sure I would be concerned if he moves on. We have been waiting 3 years for him to realise some promise. Granted teams seem interested in him?

So at most I'd keep 3 or 4 - but only Baldock is 100%. Wes I think is replacable. The other 2 injury prone.

With the loans going back, I think most of the foreign development players would move on too - Souza, Traore and Slimane - but we'd lose money on them.

It would mean we would effectively be signing a new team.

No mention of Osula for some reason, signed new contract and could do very well in the Championship.

 

[Rudders]

No mention of Osula for some reason, signed new contract and could do very well in the Championship.

But also injury prone and never scored a goal for us or looked like scoring, so yeah will boss the championship as its quite an easy league?!

 

[chesblade]

Wes, as back up for new keeper
Baldock
Egan
McBurnie
Jebbison
RND, only if he's fit to start,otherwise pension him off
Jebbison I'd sell on January and use the money to get Doyle in on loan with option to buy

I think wolves will buy Doyle at the price they were given

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Out of contract;
Foderingham
Amissah
Davies
Baldock
Bogle
Norrington-Davies
Lowe
Basham
Egan
Norwood
Coulibaly
Fleck
Osborn
McBurnie
Jebbison

14/15 were players under last time CW was here. Please dont be giving old pals who aren't good enough new deals!

 

[jt64]

14/15 were players under last time CW was here. Please dont be giving old pals who aren't good enough new deals!

If the club has any sense it won't be anything to do with him in the first place

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

If the club has any sense it won't be anything to do with him in the first place

True.. but with him here for "18 months" surely he's got the biggest say? It's a tough one.

Wouldn't lose sleep on any leaving apart from maybe Baldock.

 

[jt64]

True.. but with him here for "18 months" surely he's got the biggest say?

That is my biggest worry tbh

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Be interesting to see who CW wants to stay. I'd only be looking at Baldock right now as an immediate new deal.

 

[Rudders]

Be interesting to see who CW wants to stay. I'd only be looking at Baldock right now as an immediate new deal.

Baldock is a great player and has that feisty way but gets injured a lot now and is at the stage of his career where this will get worse. With the international stuff as well it’s probably a bit more nuanced than the absolute banker of a new deal it was a couple of years ago

 

[John Cutsbushes]

Baldock is a great player and has that feisty way but gets injured a lot now and is at the stage of his career where this will get worse. With the international stuff as well it’s probably a bit more nuanced than the absolute banker of a new deal it was a couple of years ago

Plays 4 games then gets injured, his body isn't up to the rigours of football.
Great player, can't rely on him, get shut.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

A 1 year deal in the championship is fair enough for Baldock surely

 

[LBA_Blade]

Out of contract;
Foderingham
Amissah
Davies
Baldock
Bogle
Norrington-Davies
Lowe
Basham
Egan
Norwood
Coulibaly
Fleck
Osborn
McBurnie
Jebbison

14/15 were players under last time CW was here. Please dont be giving old pals who aren't good enough new deals!

For me even division dependent, I would have 18 month deals at least for Wes (only contracted keeper come summer) be at least a good backup option if not first choice in the Championship. Baldock definitely worth another deal. I would be offering our terms out to Jebbo on a 18 month but looking to loan him out till end of season. The rest to be honest, we can do without/find replacements for either in loan market or in academy players.

 

[Nedski]

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Thought it was 15 but not arsed if any sign on or not. Time for a change.

 

[8lade]

Can't see much getting done early as
1. It's unsure which league United will be in - you'd look daft jumping ship only for United to be saved on the last day.
2. Every player will want to look around for the best deal and some will think they'll have a chance at a newly promoted team.
3. United are still skint, promotion saved the prince's skin but not much more.

 

[Weasel]

Bogle, McBurnie, Baldock, Wes and Egan can stay. The others can go for me. Time to freshen things up in the summer irrespective if where we land.