On the brink of turning my back for good.

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Leonardo Green said:
If anyone wants to 'turn their back for good' then that's fine, just don't come back when we start doing well again.
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They wouldnt be turning their back for good then would they ?

They would be turning their back for a bit while we are shit

So you really didnt need to bother posting that inflamatory and stupid remark
 



By anybody's standards, mature standards anyway, any manager deserves a full year before we judge his performance. His performance at this stage is almost irrelevant, it's where we are in January that matters. For a start we have so many players on contracts and who nobody wants. We have a very big squad so can't just sign player after player, injuries to our two best players, quite a few more injuries to first teamers and its early days for things to take shape. A lot of contracts end next year.

We had a good pre- season which was misleading.

Keep calm and sensible, it's early days. Frightened of Chesterfield? Tough isn't it!!

Turn your back by all means, sad though. You'll never get over S2 though and you'll feel really bad when you return for the good times, bit of a fraud like.
 
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Woodwardfan said:
By anybody's standards, mature standards anyway, any manager deserves a full year before we judge his performance. His performance at this stage is almost irrelevant, it's where we are in January that matters. For a start we have so many players on contracts and who nobody wants. We have a very big squad so can't just sign player after player, injuries to our two best players, quite a few more injuries to first teamers and its early days for things to take shape. A lot of contracts end next year.

We had a good pre- season which was misleading.

Keep calm and sensible, it's early days. Frightened of Chesterfield? Tough isn't it!!

Turn your back by all means, sad though. You'll never get over S2 though and you'll feel really bad when you return for the good times, bit of a fraud like.
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We should never go on pre-season, different type of matches more for giving players game time, trouble is they took a couple of our best players out, swings and roundabouts I suppose.
 
Baxter is a greedy, lightweight tosser. Bit like Long, Howard and the rest of the backs...oh and the directors.
 
sheffielder said:
I have to believe Adkins knows what he's doing and we will see a vastly different performance next week. I am pretty sure he knows that players like Murphy, Adams and Sharp need a solid platform to work from. If I didn't have this hope I am pretty sure I would be feeling the same way.

By the end of today I will be looking forward to Saturday and can just hope Adkins puts the 'reserves' out in the cup in the week.
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You mean play the same team that lost at Gillingham?
 
Please feel free to enquire politely but loudly when the f**k the Board will actually be indulging the long suffering fans of this Club with some of the regularly promised but rarely delivered financial investment in the playing staff !!!
UTB & FTP
 
judge said:
Got too many players who turn it on when they feel like it
Great in the cup v spurs and southampton
Non existent at yeovil and gillingham

Cant do the fundementals ,wont do the dark side of the game
No leaders ,captains a calamity ,keeper is a loud bang away from being straightjacketed
No heart no fight no fucking pride
Fuck off
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Can I give you 26 "likes" please !! :D
UTB & FTP
 
Deadbat said:
I am sure the OP will get the usual 'don't go then' and some critisicm but many will ask same questions if things do carry on with no potential for any semblance of success.

I still get a season ticket and go away now and again but I cant justify spending £50 on ticket/travel etc for away games anymore. Not on a club/team that is constantly failing/letting you down. You can take that as being not as much of a supporter as others but when you have a young family/money to juggle, there are other priorties in life. I admire those that keep going but when I saw all the tweets and pictures of fans going down along with the respect for going down and still following SUFC...I also thought why do you put yourself through this. Its weird but I used to go away a lot but when you stop going you don't miss it as much. I can see Brownies frustration. I would think it would be once unimaginable I would not get a season ticket or be a regular a few years ago but the constant shite served up by this club means I am not sure I would be that surprised in a few years f I did stop going. I never thought I would say that.

All this #unitedtogether bollox is patronising beyond belief. Hard to remain United when they constantly are such a let down. Sick of all the talking.soundbytes/web site/twitter garbage. Put up or shut up. That is from the chairman, to the manager to the players.

Its Saturday night of the first football season and twitter/facebook/even that crappy new c5 show confirms we are a laughing stock. Again.
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well said deadbat,i have no been enjoying the football serve up for a while now and am at present wishing i had not renewed my season ticket,this is NOT based on one match,have we gone out and signed a 20 goal a season striker ? have we sorted out the defence ? have we got rid of the deadwood ? have we spent money on quality players like bristol did ? do we get the same old bollocks season after season ? we have got a manager
who has a good track record,but are his hands going to be tied again ? i really hope i am proved wrong come the end of this season
 
It's worthy of note for all the flouncers and wrist slashers, that the famous promotion season of 70-71, which us older folk often cream our pants to, started off with a sequence of LWLDD, beginning with a hefty defeat at mighty Orient. The rest, as they say....
Now I'm not comparing this current shower with Woody TC, Badge and the rest of those heroes, but come on, wait just a tad longer before you flounce off into the sunset sobbing unto your Blades hankies :-)
 



Too much is made of people giving up or they are told 'don't come back when times are good.' It is natural for football supporters to feel let down and lost interest when the team does not do as well. Of course it would be great if SUFC had a consistent steady 20-25,000 following every season but that is not how football works. It is the same for every team. The better a team does, the more people go.

However United have been stuck in this division for 5 years now. It is remarkable we still get the crowds that we do and for the most part I think we have been an incredibly loyal bunch.

The mismanagement of the club in recent times has been astonishing even for SUFC. To read the words of Brownie and others have not a surprise. To me it does not make them any less of a fan. Many are sick to the back teeth of the club and its let downs. Fans keep going and keep hoping but keep getting kicked in the guts. I can see why so many are fed up of it all and would rather spend their time and money on other things whether it be other hobbies/family stuff. I would never criticise them for that. I admire those that keep going and admire their passion too (I once was one of them travelling down spending a fortune to go places like Gillingham and getting back at daft o clock etc) but some fans are in a different position in terms of mentality to attending every week or being able to commit emotionally or financially. I remember my Dad telling me about how he stopped going around late 70's (said it was before we crashed down the leagues) and just said he did not feel that connection anymore and had to spend money on other things (me and my sister who would not let him down as much). I was always astonished with that. How could he stop going? This was United. His/Our team. I kind of understand now having a family of my own and seeing SUFC be such a let down year after year.

However, hey still surprise us, even me, with their ineptitude. After all the talk over new manager, new pitch, new dug outs, new kit, all the sound bytes even I swallowed some of the hyperbole over the summer. I was as excited as anyone to start the season. The worst result at this level since we came back down and on opening day and the worst result for a new manager of SUFC on his first game. Many are saying it is only one game and sure we could recover; but it was an absolute disaster and as many Gillingham fans who went said; we looked an awful side; not sure we can suddenly flick on a switch and become a runaway promotion side all of a sudden. We have conceded 9 goals in the last 2 proper games. NINE. To be honest it could have been a lot more too.

It winds me up when people say everyone is overreacting and it one game. We were the favourites for the league. Had the ideal manager we needed to get us out of this league and we it was his first game - the players desperate to impress and lay down a marker in front of 2,000 Blades fans. We lost 4-0 . To Gillingham. All those that say we are in League One deal with it; this is where we are and these things happen also leaves me a little bewildered. I expect more. So much more. I expected us to go and smash the Gills or at least compete. Am I so wrong for lambasting our continued underachievement and expecting us to win yesterday. I think shrugging and accepting yesterday is half the problem. We should expect more but as I have said before there is noting we can do about it. We can stamp our feet and get angry or we can have a reaction like Brownie and many others. I am probably somewhere in the middle in terms of disinterest, acceptance and still yet have those blasts of anger at what is happening to this still great football club that I simply could never turn my back on but can understand levels of interest peaking and troughing somewhat for myself and others.
 
Leonardo Green said:
If anyone wants to 'turn their back for good' then that's fine, just don't come back when we start doing well again.
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I don't think it's that simple Leo. I hate glory hunters. I live in East York's and when I first moved here Hull City shirts had the rarity of the rare white rhinoceros. I was surrounded by Liverpool, Leeds and Arsenal fans. Hull City then defy their history and get to the Prem, lo and fookin behold they are everyone's home town club, 25000 crowds and everywhere I go there are revolting amber and black shirts. You watch their crowds this season and I predict mid to late teens at best. That is a bunch of glory hunters.

I think Blades fans are very different. I have watched United sine 1974, through relegation to the 4th div and back. Believe you me I have watched some absolute garbage in my time. This is not about the success of the team on the field. I think I am similar to Brownie and a lot of other fans who feel disenfranchised from our club and football in general.

We have watched as the soul of our club has been gradually destroyed with bad decisions, property speculation / manipulation, player sales and most importantly a lack of integrity at board level that means I would not believe a word that Kevin McCabe says anymore.

The only reason i still go, is my daughter wants to. Last season was the most dispiriting I have ever witnessed as a Blade. My job was under threat, I was worried about finances and I am watching the likes of Baxter go through the motions before they swan out to their Porsche and drive home whilst earning frankly ridiculous amounts of money for playing third tier football.

I won't come back if we start winning, or God forbid get to the dreaded Premier League, I will come back when I believe in the people who are running my club and we have a team of players that I want to support.

Re some of the responses that you received, it is not about right and wrong, clapper or slasher, it is merely just perspective, and you will find perspective changes with age.
 
sheffielder said:
My team would be

Howard or new GK
Freeman Basham Mceverley or new GK - any fit left back or loan
Adams Wallace Reed or new CM Murphy
Sharp Sammon/Higdon
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Maybe...

Howard
Freeman Basham New CB and McEv at left back for now?
 
Bladesman said:
Maybe...

Howard
Freeman Basham New CB and McEv at left back for now?
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Not a bad shout actually. Strangely might add a bit more stability and platform

Edit - Reminds me, didn't Adkins say McEverley was a left back originally?
 
sheffielder said:
Not a bad shout actually. Strangely might add a bit more stability and platform

Edit - Reminds me, didn't Adkins say McEverley was a left back originally?
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McEverley spent all of his career as a left back. That's why I find it so odd to see him playing at centre back.

Even wikipedia thinks it's odd: "At Sheffield United McEveley started to play as a Centre back, instead of his natural Left back position."
 
Wards said:
Thank fuck someone said it. It's akin to our lass having a strop when she's on the blob and I've forgot to do the pots.



And as for that. Well, sort your self out.
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Can I just point out ,the second statement wasn't and never would be made by me.
 
Bladesman said:
McEverley spent all of his career as a left back. That's why I find it so odd to see him playing at centre back.
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It's not odd in the slightest for me, he's lost a yard of pace which is vitally needed at left back, so he's moved into the centre. He's capable of playing well there and we did see it for a while... problem is, a partnership of him and Collins is too slow, needs one of those two plus a younger, quicker centre back.
 
Foxy said:
It's not odd in the slightest for me, he's lost a yard of pace which is vitally needed at left back, so he's moved into the centre. He's capable of playing well there and we did see it for a while... problem is, a partnership of him and Collins is too slow, needs one of those two plus a younger, quicker centre back.
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And a vocal goalkeeper behind them and a midfield protector in front. Doyle and Howard have done this job to a certain extent in the past and it goes unnoticed but is vital at Div 3 level.
 
sitwell said:
And a vocal goalkeeper behind them and a midfield protector in front. Doyle and Howard have done this job to a certain extent in the past and it goes unnoticed but is vital at Div 3 level.
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Absolutely, we've needed more communication throughout the side for a long time, got some of it pre-season, plenty lacking yesterday.
 
Foxy said:
It's not odd in the slightest for me, he's lost a yard of pace which is vitally needed at left back, so he's moved into the centre. He's capable of playing well there and we did see it for a while... problem is, a partnership of him and Collins is too slow, needs one of those two plus a younger, quicker centre back.
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Looking at the highlights, being slow was a very small part of what the problem was yesterday. We're not going to be able to stick a free transfer at this one.
 
sitwell said:
And a vocal goalkeeper behind them and a midfield protector in front. Doyle and Howard have done this job to a certain extent in the past and it goes unnoticed but is vital at Div 3 level.
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Bit confused, as both were in the team when these things happened last season?
 



sitwell said:
Not necessarily those players but those type of players ,and we didn't get rogered 4-0 ever when those 2 played.
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Might not have been 4-0, however losing to Fleetwood at home is still worse than yesterday. I can think of a few results last season which are right up with yesterday.
 
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