CONFIRMED Nigel Adkins is gone

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Thing is, you have to go into convoluted reasons as to why Adkins failed even to reach the level Clough did. As well as the "bad luck" stories, you can equally pick "good luck" stories (the daylight robbery of 3 points at home to Coventry springs to mind). Most people also seem to think the division was weaker this season, so getting last points than Clough is even more of a failure. On the plus side, Clough had no 20 goal a season striker, Adkins did.

I would be pretty sure Adkins was told at the start of the season that the minimum expected was a play off place. As I say, he failed and can have no complaints. You can say the sacking was a bit harsh and that he could well have been given the start of next season and I would agree with that. What I don't think you can say is that the sacking was not deserved given the serious underachievement last season.

As I have said 20,000 times, it was finely balanced decision; not obviously right as the Weir and Robson sackings were or obviously insane as the Wilson and Blackwell sackings were. I don't criticise the Board for sacking him and wouldn't have criticised them for keeping him on.


My point re Clough was that the difference in performance was negligible.

For me it's not about harshness or fairness of the sacking. It's about the lack of foresight, not learning from past mistakes, buck-passing and the elimination of about the only proven quality we have at our club in any capacity before he's even had a chance to do the job. I can't see that we can possibly be in a better position with Wilder going forward than if we had stuck with Adkins. It just reaks of reactionary buck-passing on McCabe's part to keep the angry crowds off his back.
 

My point re Clough was that the difference in performance was negligible.

For me it's not about harshness or fairness of the sacking. It's about the lack of foresight, not learning from past mistakes, buck-passing and the elimination of about the only proven quality we have at our club in any capacity before he's even had a chance to do the job. I can't see that we can possibly be in a better position with Wilder going forward than if we had stuck with Adkins. It just reaks of reactionary buck-passing on McCabe's part to keep the angry crowds off his back.
no foresight?? we've appointed a new guy on the same day! i don't see how you can say that we won't be in a better position.. can i borrow your crystal ball?? i have a big meeting next week ;)
 
My point re Clough was that the difference in performance was negligible.

For me it's not about harshness or fairness of the sacking. It's about the lack of foresight, not learning from past mistakes, buck-passing and the elimination of about the only proven quality we have at our club in any capacity before he's even had a chance to do the job. I can't see that we can possibly be in a better position with Wilder going forward than if we had stuck with Adkins. It just reaks of reactionary buck-passing on McCabe's part to keep the angry crowds off his back.

He has performed worst in terms of league position of any SUFC manager over the last 30 years. Had he not been sacked, he would have been a lucky man. I am not particularly inspired by Wilder though, but who knows, maybe he has suddenly hit his peak after 15 years of mediocrity. We can but hope.
 
He also didn’t have the advantage of them being his players signed to play his way. Yet despite all of that, he was only six points worse off.

A good manager doesn't have one way of playing, and can adapt his style to the resources he has available, something which Adkins failed to do both in terms of recruitment and during games
 
Shame. I was totally supportive of him until the weekend. I could have accepted him staying if the clear out would have happened. Best of luck with your endeavours Nigel.
 
Thing is, you have to go into convoluted reasons as to why Adkins failed even to reach the level Clough did. As well as the "bad luck" stories, you can equally pick "good luck" stories (the daylight robbery of 3 points at home to Coventry springs to mind). Most people also seem to think the division was weaker this season, so getting last points than Clough is even more of a failure. On the plus side, Clough had no 20 goal a season striker, Adkins did.

I would be pretty sure Adkins was told at the start of the season that the minimum expected was a play off place. As I say, he failed and can have no complaints. You can say the sacking was a bit harsh and that he could well have been given the start of next season and I would agree with that. What I don't think you can say is that the sacking was not deserved given the serious underachievement last season.

As I have said 20,000 times, it was finely balanced decision; not obviously right as the Weir and Robson sackings were or obviously insane as the Wilson and Blackwell sackings were. I don't criticise the Board for sacking him and wouldn't have criticised them for keeping him on.
You don't have to go into convoluted reasons. Our squad isn't good enough. Clough got 6 more points with his own players, finishing 20 points off automatic promotion- is that really the case for the prosecution?

I suspect you've not seen a lot of Clough's signings.

UTB
 
As I keep saying that "crap squad" got us to the play offs last season. It's a mystery how Adkins managed to get even less out of them.
Not that much of a mystery - the squad(s) had key differences. Jamie Murphy single handedly won about 12 points for the Clough team that got in the play offs. With those 12 points in the Adkins team total we would have got in the play offs. Adkins also binned off McNulty who despite being involved in a pastel coloured jumper draping episode (borrowed from McCabe?) also contributed about a dozen goals to that team. McNulty would have been a better sub option at least than Salmon and DCL this year. Easy really Adkins was hamstrung by losing/giving away attacking talent, which the signing of Billy Sharp couldn't counteract and we were massively over-reliant on him, so no surprise we slumped when Sharp lost form and Adams went AWOL. You need 4 proper strikers I reckon...
 
Dear Mr.McCabe

Following today's news, I would like to point out that since May 2007, you have appointed and sacked seven managers, two of which had win percentages of 51.89% and 47.12% - that's seven in nine years, or one every 1.3 years.

Are you seriously suggesting to supporters of SUFC that you know what the fuck you are doing?

More than those backing Adkins, he'd fucked up by the end of August.
 
Oh look, it's happened again. We've had our annual managerial crucifixtion! Now we get another summer of a new man finding his feet, giving average players a clean slate, and undoing all the work done by the previous establishment. Do you wanna know why we never improve the squad in the summer transfer window? It's because we almost always have a new manager. He will assess the players, but he won't know for sure what we need until he sees us play for 5 or 6 games. By which time the window is shut. So he will make educated guesses on what we need. Some will work (Sharp) some will not (Hammond). This would be alright if he was given backing in January. But he won't be. We will once again fail to gain promotion from League 1, we will once again be dangerously below top 2 standard (18 points this year) and once again we will build a big wicker man at the bottom of The Moor and chuck the sorry bastard in it.

Notice how eerily similar that official statement from the club is to the one we got a year ago about Clough? The message is abundantly clear to any new manager: You get one shot at promotion and that's your lot. Oh, but we won't back you in the transfer market, and the fans will think you're a cunt because you've failed to turn around a club instantly that has a culture of failure from top to bottom. Welcome to Bramall Lane, where good managers go to get ritually executed.

I'm really disappointed in the chirpy faced, blind and moronic optimism the board have in this situation. McCabe is fiddling while Sheffield burns. The failings of the club are the fault of the board. If you're blaming the manager, you're not seeing the full picture. Wilson, Weir, Clough and now Adkins. All have failed. Who employed them? And who gave all of them (Weir excepted, of course) far too little time to turn it around? We will not be a Championship club before the board are replaced.


Wilder will have a good idea on who needs to go [he keeps an eye on us] and where he will strengthen from [already will have plans in his head for Northampton].
 

I was so sure Adkins was going to work, but maybe he wasn' as good a fit for us as I expected. Wilder certain;y fits the bill and I think he'll do really well, and his knowledge of the lower leagues means we, hopefully, won't be reliant on has been championship players!
 
1. At least three of those were loans who wouldn't have been there for any manager...and many expected Murphy to go.

2. He clearly spent a large part of his budget on Hammond and Edgar and presided over some diabolical passionless performances which he glossed over every time.

3. A decent manager would have got them motivated. He clearly didn't. Maybe he has become a poor manager or maybe he's a decent manager only with good players? In which case he's not the man for us.


1. All true but none of those facts take away from the fact that they were part of the squad that got us to 5th that weren't there under Adkins.

2. I agree our recruitment was mixed with Hammond, Woolford, Sammon disappointing. But, whilstever we have this culture of "one season or you're gone" managers are more likely to go for experience and familiar faces especially when the restrictions are such that we could bring in less players than any other league 1 team.

3. I disagree. All managers have their own ways and different methods. Some players respond to some managers but not others. Most of these players have shown a lack of response for the last 2 or even 3 managers. Rather than keep changing the manager, we should change the players. I wonder if McNulty, Freeman, Scougall will get another chance to fail under Wilder before he gets the chop.
 
Pleeeeeease go for Adkins, Bolton. We need a buyer for Hammond.

We'll accept a bag of endeavour and a book of motivational quotes. The payment will go towards Wilder's stack of kindling by his fireplace.
 
If Cotterill, we have to be wary of them.

Adkins, we can forget about them altogether.
 

What a dream pairing that would be.

If only they could also somehow franchise-manage the other 22 clubs in the division, then we'd be a shoo-in for automatic.


Not sure how you work this one out. In the 10 years since we last got a promotion, these 2 have achieved six between them. The latter finishing 28 points clear of us winning this league the season before last.
 

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