CONFIRMED Nigel Adkins is gone

[BladeFisher]

Looks like it could be Bolton, he is shortlisted with Steve Cotterill

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36478397

Well if those 'dodgy fixtures' prove to be correct then his first home game will be against......

Sheffield United.

I am sure McCabe will be there.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Wonder how DavidBrentSpeak would go down in the land of Fred Dibnah, Peter Kay, Paddy McGuinness and Mark Radcliffe?

 

[The Crab]

Wonder how DavidBrentSpeak would go down in the land of Fred Dibnah, Peter Kay, Paddy McGuinness and Mark Radcliffe?

 

[Kenilworth]

got to say look at leicesters turn over of managers
14 in the past 10 years
theyve had 2 promotions and won the premier league
we obviously arent sacking enough of em

Liking the new avar, BTL

 

[BeatleBlade]

He'd be a fool to go to Bolton. I think he's a good manager but he's choosing some difficult jobs that are only going to damage his reputation.

 

[I should coco]

Not sure how you work this one out. In the 10 years since we last got a promotion, these 2 have achieved six between them

Just 12 months ago we were quoting similar stats as Adkins set to work to weave his magic.

Fast forward a year and you realise what a complete crock of shit those stats were, given the crap we endured.

Cotteril has plenty of failures as well as the big money backed Bristol City promotion.

I'd have Wilder over both those twats every day of the week. Are you remotely suggesting that you'd like either of them at BDTBL?

 

[Kenilworth]

Thank you. You are very kind. I have missed people like you too. People with whom I can fundamentally and robustly disagree but maintain a dialogue. Sadly we have an influx to whom that does not apply so as the great Muhammed Ali once said "I won't be back for a while..."

Premonition?

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Just 12 months ago we were quoting similar stats as Adkins set to work to weave his magic.

Fast forward a year and you realise what a complete crock of shit those stats were, given the crap we endured.

Cotteril has plenty of failures as well as the big money backed Bristol City promotion.

I'd have Wilder over both those twats every day of the week. Are you remotely suggesting that you'd like either of them at BDTBL?

They've both had ups and downs in a decade where we've only had downs. They've both had success at certain clubs whilst every manager fails here. Suggests to me that the problems at SUFC go much deeper than any manager.

And yes I would have kept NA as I've been very vocal about. That said, I'm pleased that we're looking at overhauling the playing squad and think Wilder brings some qualities that we have lacked of late.

 

[blade too long]

Liking the new avar, BTL

knicked straight off Adidas
then edited to fit

 

[I should coco]

And yes I would have kept NA as I've been very vocal about.

I was with you up until the last game. I thought he deserved a full pre season to change things and knew that we couldn't keep on having one manager per season.

That last game changed everything. Clueless with no discernible pattern of play, we looked at least as bad as at any part of the season. There was no progression or 'building for next season' just a shameful shambolic surrender to a shitty Scunthorpe team.

I lost it big style that day and don't regret it for a minute. He wasn't suited to us and I suspect he felt the same way.

That said, I'm pleased that we're looking at overhauling the playing squad and think Wilder brings some qualities that we have lacked of late.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I was with you up until the last game. I thought he deserved a full pre season to change things and knew that we couldn't keep on having one manager per season.

That last game changed everything. Clueless with no discernible pattern of play, we looked at least as bad as at any part of the season. There was no progression or 'building for next season' just a shameful shambolic surrender to a shitty Scunthorpe team.

I lost it big style that day and don't regret it for a minute. He wasn't suited to us and I suspect he felt the same way.



I couldn't agree more.

Each to their own mate. I can see the merit in the "he wasn't suited to us" comments. What I can't accept is people claiming he's completely useless and that any rival team he manages is doomed, we will finish above them etc. when you consider the actual evidence of his record v ours.

 

[FriethBlade]

The debate above highlights the difference between a board that knows its onions and one that doesn't.

Most including their own fans thought Southampton were mad to get rid of Adkins when they did but the board clearly saw something they didn't like. They then went on to appoint Pochettino who nobody had heard of and was a massive success. When they lost him everyone tipped them to go down but they appointed Koeman who has also done a great job. In the meantime Adkins has been sacked twice at progressively worse gigs !

In contrast our board has stumbled from Wilson to Weir to Clough to Adkins !!

Different levels etc but a board that can appoint the right managers are worth their weight in gold.

 

[Booker4]

Really don't want Cotterill getting the Bolton job. He has shown at Bristol that he can turn things round pretty quickly. Also if Adkins gets the job he might sign Hammond!

 

[Bladesman]

I was with you up until the last game. I thought he deserved a full pre season to change things and knew that we couldn't keep on having one manager per season.

That last game changed everything. Clueless with no discernible pattern of play, we looked at least as bad as at any part of the season. There was no progression or 'building for next season' just a shameful shambolic surrender to a shitty Scunthorpe team.

I lost it big style that day and don't regret it for a minute. He wasn't suited to us and I suspect he felt the same way.



I couldn't agree more.

Probably because prior to that game he had been told he would be going. As it was clear we had Wilder lined up as far back as January or just after (when did sun make his post?). Why would you bother too much if you know your replacement is already waiting for you to leave.

They've both had ups and downs in a decade where we've only had downs. They've both had success at certain clubs whilst every manager fails here. Suggests to me that the problems at SUFC go much deeper than any manager.

And yes I would have kept NA as I've been very vocal about. That said, I'm pleased that we're looking at overhauling the playing squad and think Wilder brings some qualities that we have lacked of late.

Exactly, although we have no proper structure at the club and every 12 to 18 months we move the deckchairs around hoping something new will work.

Maybe Wilder is the man to sort and he will tell McCabe where he is going wrong. Explains why Warnock did well as he probably had words with McCabe at times over certain issues.

 

[BushBlade]

Really don't want Cotterill getting the Bolton job. He has shown at Bristol that he can turn things round pretty quickly. Also if Adkins gets the job he might sign Hammond!

Isn't Cotterill ex Burnley? Can't imagine the Bolton supporters are too impressed.

 

[BushBlade]

Probably because prior to that game he had been told he would be going. As it was clear we had Wilder lined up as far back as January or just after (when did sun make his post?). Why would you bother too much if you know your replacement is already waiting for you to leave.



Exactly, although we have no proper structure the club and every 12 to 18 months we move the deckchairs around hoping something new will work.

Maybe Wilder is the man to sort and he will tell McCabe where he is going wrong. Explains why Warnock did well as he probably had words with McCabe at times over certain issues.

People always say 'what exactly did Derek Dooley do?' And then go on about his job description. I've always suspected that what he did was to tell KM that Warnock was right, when they had a disagreement.
If you're surrounded by sycophants who depend on you for their living, you tend to find you're always 'right'.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Pleeeeeease go for Adkins, Bolton. We need a buyer for Hammond.

Won't it be interesting if he doesn't go for Hammond

 

[The Crab]

Won't it be interesting if he doesn't go for Hammond

Just as long as someone does!

 

[Bladesman]

People always say 'what exactly did Derek Dooley do?' And then go on about his job description. I've always suspected that what he did was to tell KM that Warnock was right, when they had a disagreement.
If you're surrounded by sycophants who depend on you for their living, you tend to find you're always 'right'.

I agree, I think Derek probably had a bigger influence than many of us thought and I can imagine him backing Warnock up over footballing decisions.

 

[TJB.]

Won't it be interesting if he doesn't go for Hammond

It'd be extremely interesting if he got the job and didn't move for him! That'd say to me that he knows Hammond isn't good enough for a side going for promotion, yet still allowed himself to become lumbered with an expensive player by letting him dictate the permanent contract clause.

 

[Barney]

It'd be extremely interesting if he got the job and didn't move for him! That'd say to me that he knows Hammond isn't good enough for a side going for promotion, yet still allowed himself to become lumbered with an expensive player by letting him dictate the permanent contract clause.

That'd say to me that he's an array of naughty words.

 

[The Crab]

That'd say to me that he's an array of naughty words.

He'd be a bit of an idiot to sign the guy that arguably cost him his job, or at least contributed to it.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Not sure how we are going to unload Hammond if not back to Adkins.

Anyone else is going to want to see him run and pass. On either count we screwed.

 

[Barney]

He'd be a bit of an idiot to sign the guy that arguably cost him his job, or at least contributed to it.

See where you're coming from but it depends if he still thinks he was right to sign him. If he does still think he was right, then it'd be quite weird for him to be so desperate to sign a player at one place and not so at a new club the season after. Or it'd just mean that he's realised he made a big mistake in signing Hammond in the first place, in which case he's just an idiot anyway.

 

[The Crab]

See where you're coming from but it depends if he still thinks he was right to sign him. If he does still think he was right, then it'd be quite weird for him to be so desperate to sign a player at one place and not so at a new club the season after. Or it'd just mean that he's realised he made a big mistake in signing Hammond in the first place, in which case he's just an idiot anyway.

Fair comment. It could happen, if anyone has got a worse record than us for signing over the hill overpaid wasters it's Bolton. He'd fit......

 

[BushBlade]

It'd be extremely interesting if he got the job and didn't move for him! That'd say to me that he knows Hammond isn't good enough for a side going for promotion, yet still allowed himself to become lumbered with an expensive player by letting him dictate the permanent contract clause.

Or that the midfielders at Bolton are good enough and he doesn't feel there are issues in the dressing room that need addressing.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Or that the midfielders at Bolton are good enough and he doesn't feel there are issues in the dressing room that need addressing.

If the midfield was good enough they may well have had a better chance of stopping up and not getting relegated.

The off the ball comments about Hammond , Adkins harped on about , was the toxic atmosphere within the dressing room of which Hammond was brought in to add a professional outlook .

Yep Adkins didn't help himself getting the sack , but the club IMO didn't put him in handcuffs and a straight jacket , whilst him doing his job. Ok he fucked up big style , but not one player with the exception of Billy helped him.


Wilder fucked off all the dead wood players , and set himself on the right path and footing .

It will be interesting if he gets the Bolton job , but he does not seem to be able to build from scratch . Spent force Adkins again IMO.

The guys man management is in question to me , as he is not clear or concise of what he wants . Bolton will not appoint him if they have any sense .

UTB

 

[The Crab]

I think if Adkins doesn't get this, the next stop will be punditry land. Nest season, Premier Sports Belgian Football coverage, the waffle will fit in nicely.

 

[wizadry]

Or that the midfielders at Bolton are good enough and he doesn't feel there are issues in the dressing room that need addressing.

That is way, way too logical and it wouldn't fit with Barnsters agenda against Adkins.

No one will ever know what Adkins would've done with Hammond if he'd have stayed and knew he was staying a few months back.

Perhaps Adkins would've used him in a coaching role, who knows?

Barney calls Adkins an idiot for signing Hammond, I'd call it a mistake, I wonder what Adkins would think of Barney for spending all that money on a season ticket only for him to not use the fucking thing after a few months. Maybe he'd just say it's his choice?

 

[Booker4]

Isn't Cotterill ex Burnley? Can't imagine the Bolton supporters are too impressed.

He is, but I think local rivalry is the least of their worries right now! I wouldn't have minded Cotterill here to be honest, although I prefer Wilder by some distance, but Cotterill did really well at Bristol City and Cheltenham.