Neil Warnock.. Two year deal?

[zablade]

Well?

 

[Ricky]

Or a one year deal. Or as long as he wants.

Desperate times, desperate measures.

If we're being honest he's the guy you'd trust the most to drag us out of this slumber.

 

[Jon Bon]

 

[Latters]

It took him six or seven years and a lot of money last time. Time and money are luxuries we cannot afford now. No ta.

 

[Jostein's Bandage]

Serious question... Why would he come back? To work for the guy who sacked him?

Plus, if Rotherham stay up they have to offer him a contract...don't they??

All irrelevant anyway, no way McCabe would go for it.

 

[Bladesman]

Well we like to go back in for former players. May as well go back after former managers as well especially one that ticks all the bladeyness boxes.

Or maybe we stop sacking managers all the fucking time. Perhaps for once we could actually try to put in a place a long term plan rather than assume a new manager will come in and be an instant success.

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

Warnock as director of football and Chris wilder as manager. Simple. That would see us get promotion next season.

It may not be the pretty, tippy, tappy football some have been pining for since Blackwell was given the boot, but it would get us promotion and put back some passion in our club.

Wilder is a hungry manager, with some succes and he knows what makes this club tick. He's straight talking, no nonsense and has done a good job at Oxford and Northampton. Knows the talent in the lower leagues and wont give out contracts to has beens like Hammond.

Warnock is a shrewd, highly experienced football professional with a good eye for a player and faith in young academy talents. He's got a good business head and would never financially put united in trouble, and would not take shit from agents. He would be the perfect man to work above wilder and take care of the off the field business.

All we need is McCabe to beg Warnock to return to the club, sack off Adkins and pay a bit of compo for Wilder.

If we don't do the above we will go nowhere next season under the current regime.

I want my club back, I want a passionate team and manager to fuel the passionate support, I want to look forward to listening to the manager of my club speaking, I want to see young hungry players pulling on the red and white, I want to look forward to a Saturday again and I want no nonsense winning football.

Wilder and Warnock would provide the above and drag us out of this nightmare.

 

[SwissBlade]

Stick with the manager we have, build steadily. Sacking yet another manager will not guarantee success, but adkins will make the progress needed

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

Stick with the manager we have, build steadily. Sacking yet another manager will not guarantee success, but adkins will make the progress needed

Getting so hard to say I agree with that Swiss but I do for the moment, summer alleged rebuild will determine Adkins fate.

 

[SwissBlade]

Getting so hard to say I agree with that Swiss but I do for the moment, summer alleged rebuild will determine Adkins fate.

I think one of the major factors which has led to where we are now is the constant instability with the club.

Danny Wilson Sacked for failing to get promoted in two seasons, Clough sacked for failing to get promoted in two seasons, if we sack Adkins for the same but still have players from Clough and Weir, the next manager inherits yet another unfinished project.

In my mind, Adkins will need at least next season to continue the rebuild, i'm not even sure that he will achieve it all then either, he'll have players coming in and going out, not every position will be filled with the ideal player and the side which starts the season in August will probably not be settled until at least mid September.

Unless we get a flying start next year, then we might be slow to start again

 

[Bladesway]

Stick with the manager we have, build steadily. Sacking yet another manager will not guarantee success, but adkins will make the progress needed

This. As much as Warnock seems the easy solution we have to find our own way by building patiently rather than a sticking plaster. Why? Because Warnock won't come back and because while I understand the clamour since he went to Rotherham we are so broken he couldn't fix us that quickly.

Oh and we would ruin Wilders career.

 

[judge]

This. As much as Warnock seems the easy solution we have to find our own way by building patiently rather than a sticking plaster. Why? Because Warnock won't come back and because while I understand the clamour since he went to Rotherham we are so broken he couldn't fix us that quickly.

Oh and we would ruin Wilders career.

Not advocating him coming back because i dont think he would
But he would get us promoted even if he came in now

 

[SwissBlade]

This. As much as Warnock seems the easy solution we have to find our own way by building patiently rather than a sticking plaster. Why? Because Warnock won't come back and because while I understand the clamour since he went to Rotherham we are so broken he couldn't fix us that quickly.

Oh and we would ruin Wilders career.

The sacking option should always be the last and for a long time with McCabe it was his last option. Ironically, McCabe/ Dooley kept Warnock in a job for a number of years, they could've sacked him on a few occasions before. Perhaps the end of the season before promotion, they could've justifiably sacked Warnock. It was easy. He hadn't taken us forward, he's been with us a while, so lets freshen things up...

McCabe was even extremely reluctant to sack Robson. It was perhaps the fans which persuaded him. Since then, he's been sack happy...

 

[Bladesway]

Not advocating him coming back because i dont think he would
But he would get us promoted even if he came in now

Agree with you on the first bit not on the second. Getting a team like Rotherham out of a relegation fight is utterly different to getting a club like us into a play off position. Don't think enough of the players care enough so no matter how much you motivate them makes no difference.

We need to get rid of this shower of shit and start again.

 

[Pierre's PC]

No thanks

 

[spongebobblade]

I'm all for stability and we can't keep sacking managers. However, we have to stick with the man we think is the one to ultimately get us out of this league. Is that man Adkins? We can't just stick with Adkins just because we have sacked others too quickly. In almost a full season he has given us absolutely nothing to think he is the man for the job. At this moment in time for me the jury's out. What a depressing time to be a blade

 

[Ballinpigpubs13]

I'd love the Warnock Wilder combo, couldn't be any worse than NA. How many players has he let go that seem to do ok elsewhere and then keep shit that couldn't pass piss?

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Well?

You should never go back . Warnock seems to be pulling off a miracle at Rotherham and bloody good luck to the guy. We have got to remember managers come in pairs these days and Warnock and Blackwell would be running the show.

Doing a great job at Rotherham but a big no for BDTBL . That's not to say we don't need someone of the Warnock DNA .

I go from sacking Adkins to keeping him , and still get the gut feeling even with the player squad clear out the guy is past his sell by date .

Motivation and tactics is what Warnock has in abundance . Hand on heart can we say the same for Adkins , and also the ability to turn average players in to good players .

UTB

 

[Finnieston]

I'm all for stability and we can't keep sacking managers. However, we have to stick with the man we think is the one to ultimately get us out of this league. Is that man Adkins? We can't just stick with Adkins just because we have sacked others too quickly. In almost a full season he has given us absolutely nothing to think he is the man for the job. At this moment in time for me the jury's out. What a depressing time to be a blade

Big name manager soon to be free to employ..........Ferguson. He,s got a famous dad. Stick with Adkins, you dont get as many promotions as him if your rubbish. Ten months to dismantle a squad of injured players,and create a new squad AND get promotion.....With No Money, selling Murphy.
Thats takes time. .....Whats the fastest promotion on Team Manager?

 

[spongebobblade]

We all expected far more at the start of the season though. Few if any expected us to be this shit. His signings, team selections and tactics have been woeful. Too many managers live on past reputations as to what they did 5-10 years ago. I just don't have the faith in him at present that I wish I had

 

[Finnieston]

It took him six or seven years and a lot of money last time. Time and money are luxuries we cannot afford now. No ta.

Bye Bye Season Ticket if he returns.
Only just getting back to normal from his last visit. Despite being in league1.
Remember Aston Villa away. Still he did buy a player a week,then not play them and so on................Big No From Me.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

I think one of the major factors which has led to where we are now is the constant instability with the club.

Danny Wilson Sacked for failing to get promoted in two seasons, Clough sacked for failing to get promoted in two seasons, if we sack Adkins for the same but still have players from Clough and Weir, the next manager inherits yet another unfinished project.

In my mind, Adkins will need at least next season to continue the rebuild, i'm not even sure that he will achieve it all then either, he'll have players coming in and going out, not every position will be filled with the ideal player and the side which starts the season in August will probably not be settled until at least mid September.

Unless we get a flying start next year, then we might be slow to start again

Swiss , the average life span of a football manager theses days is 7 months, which is no time to build anything . Our biggest problem is that the accumulation of a number of years under different managers , SUFC have lost its DNA and identity .

We don't know how we will play , who will turn up , and who is actually bothered . Even changing the kit from red and white stripes this season compounded the situation , as we even didn't look like SUFC.

I am not for sacking managers for the sake of it , but have lost patience with Adkins , this season as been a failure on all fronts.

The only plus I can give Adkins is that we need someone to build our infrastructure and give us that blood transfusion of bringing back our DNA and identity.

The spot light is definatley on Adkins and the bloke had made the job a lot harder himself , as for the first time for a long time , the board and fans have not loaded him with any great pressure as the PR machine seems to blame Clough and the players for all things poor this season. Adkins has failed to deliver the basic - proud to be a Blade.

Getting our identity back will give us stability , whoever is in charge.

UTB

 

[Bladesway]

Bye Bye Season Ticket if he returns.
Only just getting back to normal from his last visit. Despite being in league1.
Remember Aston Villa away. Still he did buy a player a week,then not play them and so on................Big No From Me.

Bit harsh but it does lay waste to this myth laid down by some that "everyone" wants him back.

I wonder if any manager would get 6 years to get a promotion these days?

 

[Bladesway]

Swiss , the average life span of a football manager theses days is 7 months, which is no time to build anything . Our biggest problem is that the accumulation of a number of years under different managers , SUFC have lost its DNA and identity .

We don't know how we will play , who will turn up , and who is actually bothered . Even changing the kit from red and white stripes this season compounded the situation , as we even didn't look like SUFC.

I am not for sacking managers for the sake of it , but have lost patience with Adkins , this season as been a failure on all fronts.

The only plus I can give Adkins is that we need someone to build our infrastructure and give us that blood transfusion of bringing back our DNA and identity.

The spot light is definatley on Adkins and the bloke had made the job a lot harder himself , as for the first time for a long time , the board and fans have not loaded him with any great pressure as the PR machine seems to blame Clough and the players for all things poor this season. Adkins has failed to deliver the basic - proud to be a Blade.

Getting our identity back will give us stability , whoever is in charge.

UTB

All of the above, kit colour doesnt matter if we win games. We had identity at Wembley and for the games against Spurs. We had identity when we humped QPR and Forest in the cup.

I don't buy it. We win games and the identity comes back. We lose games and slip lower down the table and guess what, we lose our identity.

 

[Blade82]

It took him six or seven years and a lot of money last time. Time and money are luxuries we cannot afford now. No ta.

It's been 5 years soon to be confirmed as 6 in this league and millions spent, we've had money and time just not given it to one particular manager. Instead we've given them one shot and called for their head. Not blaming the fans but i believe we have to look back and learn that chopping and changing has got us in to this mess and won't get us out of it.

 

[Bladesman]

Bit harsh but it does lay waste to this myth laid down by some that "everyone" wants him back.

I wonder if any manager would get 6 years to get a promotion these days?

Adkins looks like he won't get a season with most on here. People forget we had to put up with some shite during the Neil "mr motivator" Warnock years.

The plus for Adkins is he looks to utilise the academy more than any other manager has over recent years. I can see what Adkins is trying to achieve but with the squad the way it is at the moment it looks an up hill challenge.

I think Adkins big mistake this season was not clearing players out sooner. He has to keep what is it 16 players soon to be out of contract happy? Most of them know they won't be getting a new contract. What I expected at the start of the season was these players to show that they wanted to be here regardless of who is in charge. Have some sort of personal pride in themselves and earn a new deal.

I expect the club to get rid of Adkins eventually and keep making the same mistakes especially while McCabe is at the club. Sell the best player, fail to get promoted, sack the manager and repeat. Keep repeating the same pattern even if relegated. Keep the pattern going and keep the deluded hope someone buys the club.

 

[SwissBlade]

Swiss , the average life span of a football manager theses days is 7 months, which is no time to build anything . Our biggest problem is that the accumulation of a number of years under different managers , SUFC have lost its DNA and identity .

We don't know how we will play , who will turn up , and who is actually bothered . Even changing the kit from red and white stripes this season compounded the situation , as we even didn't look like SUFC.

I am not for sacking managers for the sake of it , but have lost patience with Adkins , this season as been a failure on all fronts.

The only plus I can give Adkins is that we need someone to build our infrastructure and give us that blood transfusion of bringing back our DNA and identity.

The spot light is definatley on Adkins and the bloke had made the job a lot harder himself , as for the first time for a long time , the board and fans have not loaded him with any great pressure as the PR machine seems to blame Clough and the players for all things poor this season. Adkins has failed to deliver the basic - proud to be a Blade.

Getting our identity back will give us stability , whoever is in charge.

UTB

I think getting stability will bring back our identity. What we need is to ignore everyone else and worry about what is best for Sheffield United. As we have said many times before, we're sheffield united, we're different, lets do things our way, lets do things better.

The key for me is that if we sack a manager (any manager) then what is the plan? If we sack without a plan we're putting ourselves in a potentially worse situation. If we sack to bring in a short term solution then again, its just moving the problem, it doesn't fix it.

Keep Adkins, let him take us forward this summer. And if things haven't improved by next summer, lets all just spend the season ticket money on a big piss up.

 

[Latters]

Why do people keep suggesting Warnock for a director of football role? I was under the impression that a DoF's main remit was signing players. Warnock signed some right old shit and spent a fortune. He'd be a shocking Director of Football. He'd struggle even more signing players for someone else to manage, considering a fair few of his purchases came with attitude problems.

I think I'd be even more against that than I would him coming back as manager.

To elaborate on my post from last night, if the remit was to keep us up, I could just about understand getting him in as manager on a short term deal, but it isn't. Nowadays he can give players a quick kick up the Arsenal and get some quick results, but they soon tire of his bluster and shite. He'd be no more likely to get us promoted than Clough or Adkins. If people thought Clough went for quantity over quality they definitely view Warnock's time through rose tinted glasses.

 

[Finnieston]

9 Games to go..........Thats 27 points......How many do you think we need ,bearing in mind were 6 points behind 6th place at present.
It could all start from Crewe next week..........Oh no not Crewe again.......
Ever the optimist.

 

[ken shabby]

Some of football under neil was dire. 2002-03 and 2006 -07 were good, the rest were just as agonising as todays stuff... people have bad memories, dare i mention Mark Rankine and mike whitlow, barry hayles, etc. etc. took him 6 years to get us up, one to get us down.