Neil Warnock.. Two year deal?

[Bladesince59]

If that's all you remember from the Warnock era you are sadder than you appear.

Agree. \what a twat Finnieston is.

 

[Bladesince59]

at least it was fun

But SUFC in the third should be top two.

NUFC will expect the same next season in div2 if they go down.

WHEN

 

[Bladesince59]

You only have to look at Millwall v Sheff Utd.
Under Warnock we had Morgan and Kenny battling on and off the pitch against Muscat and a 2 nd div Millwall with much better players than now and yet we still win with a Del Geary goal not to be forgotten.
Under Adkins we play a shocking 3rd div Millwall ,by their own recognition concede a pathetic 2nd minute goal ,show zero fight on or off the pitch and meekly surrender to yet another goal we cant respond to in a game which will be forgotten because it is so similar to virtually every other fucking game this season.
And yet still favour Adkins to Warnock ,its beyond me.

ADKINS ISN;T FIT TO LICK HIS BOOTS

 

[Ricky]

Don't know why people keep saying 'it took Warnock 7 years', like we were big spending favourites every season.

Sheffield United in League One is, or at least should be, very different to any Sheffield United in any of the Championship seasons Warnock managed us.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

at least it was fun

WHEN

Whenever either club finds its self at that level.

 

[PeteBlade]

Don't know why people keep saying 'it took Warnock 7 years', like we were big spending favourites every season.

Sheffield United in League One is, or at least should be, very different to any Sheffield United in any of the Championship seasons Warnock managed us.

Because it was a fact that's how long he took. Before the days where the top teams in the championship spend huge amounts.

 

[Ricky]

Because it was a fact that's how long he took. Before the days where the top teams in the championship spend huge amounts.

Even so, the only time we were ever right up there with the favourites was 2005/06. And most of the promoted sides in the other seasons spent more money than us. Being in the top half of the Championship will never be a disgrace for Sheffield United anyway, and that's where we always were under Warnock, by and large making progress every season.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Having read his book, Made in Sheffield, I very much doubt he'd ever want to come back to Bramall Lane except as a spectator or as opposition manager. He was given false promises about his contract when he could have gone to Portsmouth on double the money, Sean Bean swore at his 5 year old son, and he despises the clique of big gob fans that sit behind the dugouts to give the manager stick.

Mandaric stated categorically that NW was never offered the job. Sean Bean swore at Warnock while his wife and son were in the room, not at his son.

I'm no fan of Adkins but I wonder how many of those who want him sacked because he hasn't improved our league position remember the two seasons after the triple assault season when we finished third, when we finished eighth both times and that was after he'd had over three years building "his" side. No improvement there for two years. NA and NC were under fire in a much shorter length of time.

 

[PeteBlade]

Even so, the only time we were ever right up there with the favourites was 2005/06. And most of the promoted sides in the other seasons spent more money than us. Being in the top half of the Championship will never be a disgrace for Sheffield United anyway, and that's where we always were under Warnock, by and large making progress every season.

That's a really rose tinted view of his tenure. One year we'd be in the play offs, the next year fail to make the top 6. Hardly making progress every season at all.

He asked for backing and he received that backing for our promotion season, he says so much in his book. He spent a hefty amount of cash.

He also interviewed for other jobs mid season and almost fucked everything up.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Even so, the only time we were ever right up there with the favourites was 2005/06. And most of the promoted sides in the other seasons spent more money than us. Being in the top half of the Championship will never be a disgrace for Sheffield United anyway, and that's where we always were under Warnock, by and large making progress every season.

After finishing 3rd we finished 8th for the next two seasons. That's not progress.

 

[Bartleby]

Mandaric stated categorically that NW was never offered the job. Sean Bean swore at Warnock while his wife and son were in the room, not at his son.

I'm no fan of Adkins but I wonder how many of those who want him sacked because he hasn't improved our league position remember the two seasons after the triple assault season when we finished third, when we finished eighth both times and that was after he'd had over three years building "his" side. No improvement there for two years. NA and NC were under fire in a much shorter length of time.

I'm just going on what Warnock says in the book. Re the Sean Bean thing he says he was doing the press conference when it happened and Bean had gone when he got to his office, and he started to go looking for him but Paul Evans talked him out of it. But yes I just checked it and he did say his wife was there as well as his son and it was her he said "it's your fucking husband that got us relegated" to. In front of the 5 year old. Doesn't really make it sound any better though to me.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm just going on what Warnock says in the book. Re the Sean Bean thing he says he was doing the press conference when it happened and Bean had gone he got to his office, and he started to go looking for him but Paul Evans talked him out of it. But yes I just checked it and he did say his wife was there as well as his son and it was her he said "it's your fucking husband that got us relegated" to. In front of the 5 year old. Doesn't really make it sound any better though to me.

Not defending Bean but Warnock changed his story from a Star article at the time to when he published his book. He also said at the time that if that incident hadn't happened he could still have been manager, although later changing tack again saying he knew some time before that his contract wasn't being renewed.

 

[PeteBlade]

Not defending Bean but Warnock changed his story from a Star article at the time to when he published his book. He also said at the time that if that incident hadn't happened he could still have been manager, although later changing tack again saying he knew some time before that his contract wasn't being renewed.

At one point he also suggested the fans were the reason he left as he reckoned everyone would be on his back if we lost a few.

 

[Sean Thornton]

At one point he also suggested the fans were the reason he left as he reckoned everyone would be on his back if we lost a few.

If there's a fee he'll give a sound bite.

 

[Ricky]

We lost Michael Brown after the 02/03 season and McCall was getting on. 8th those two seasons was no disgrace. Warnock always kept us in the mix, which isn't an easy thing to do, and to me at least it felt like we weren't far away and we'd soon get it right, and we did in 05/06.

 

[PeteBlade]

We lost Michael Brown after the 02/03 season and McCall was getting on. 8th those two seasons was no disgrace. Warnock always kept us in the mix, which isn't an easy thing to do, and to me at least it felt like we weren't far away and we'd soon get it right, and we did in 05/06.

We've gone from making progress every season to not being a disgrace in about 5 minutes here.

 

[Bartleby]

Not defending Bean but Warnock changed his story from a Star article at the time to when he published his book. He also said at the time that if that incident hadn't happened he could still have been manager, although later changing tack again saying he knew some time before that his contract wasn't being renewed.

Yeah well I'm not saying I believe it all. He definitely puts a biased spin on a lot of it I think, and blames too much on outrageous fortune at times. An interesting read though I thought.

 

[Sean Thornton]

We lost Michael Brown after the 02/03 season and McCall was getting on. 8th those two seasons was no disgrace. Warnock always kept us in the mix, which isn't an easy thing to do, and to me at least it felt like we weren't far away and we'd soon get it right, and we did in 05/06.

Clough "kept us in the mix" didn't he?

 

[PeteBlade]

Clough "kept us in the mix" didn't he?

Wilson similarly kept us in the mix.

 

[Ricky]

In League One. Probably the equivalent of Warnock keeping us 18th in the Championship.

 

[Bartleby]

although later changing tack again saying he knew some time before that his contract wasn't being renewed.

At one point he also suggested the fans were the reason he left as he reckoned everyone would be on his back if we lost a few.

Yeah, I found all that part a bit confusing and was left feeling not sure why he did go in the end. Made a change from Stephen King though

 

[Silent Blade]

Not defending Bean but Warnock changed his story from a Star article at the time to when he published his book. He also said at the time that if that incident hadn't happened he could still have been manager, although later changing tack again saying he knew some time before that his contract wasn't being renewed.

I havent forgiven Warnock for being an idiot and moaning to the media about the lack of contract offer in the eve of the Wigan match

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

I think he'd take it if Match Of The Day covered L1 matches as comprehensively as the do the PL.

 

[Sean Thornton]

In League One. Probably the equivalent of Warnock keeping us 18th in the Championship.

Based on what?

 

[Ricky]

Based on what?

Bare minimum standards.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

I havent forgiven Warnock for being an idiot and moaning to the media about the lack of contract offer in the eve of the Wigan match

This could also apply to SUFC...

"A group of passionate yet amateur directors, lacking vision and funding, steering a catastrophic and sometimes comical charade into non league football."

Talking about Portsmouth, another great episode in The Life And Times Of.....

 

[Sean Thornton]

Bare minimum standards.

It's a nonsense statement with nothing to back it up.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Back in the days of one substitute, David Fairclough earned the term "Super Sub" ...
Nowadays, we have "Impact Players"...

Neil Warnock is the managerial equivalent.

 

[Ricky]

It's a nonsense statement with nothing to back it up.

What would you say being 6th in League One is the equivalent of then, for the 2004 Warnock team in the Championship for example?

 

[PeteBlade]

What would you say being 6th in League One is the equivalent of then, for the 2004 Warnock team in the Championship for example?

There is no correct answer to that question.
There's no right or wrong.
It's entirely dependant on your personal opinion.