Mcburnie

[Weasel]

It would really rankle if they are wanting a largish fee for him if indeed he is wanted by United (not saying he is of course).

To have offered him a contract, it gets turned down, he leaves, and then United buy him back from another club 6 months after he left.... seems like a total waste of money. I liked McBurnie more so than a lot on here did, and I can still see his merits, but I think we need to forget about this one now unless it's a 'bargain' to bring him back. There are others players out there who will do a decent job for us if we look hard enough. I'm sure we have other targets.

 

[McGrath]

It would really rankle if they are wanting a largish fee for him if indeed he is wanted by United (not saying he is of course).

To have offered him a contract, it gets turned down, he leaves, and then United buy him back from another club 6 months after he left.... seems like a total waste of money. I liked McBurnie more so than a lot on here did, and I can still see his merits, but I think we need to forget about this one now unless it's a 'bargain' to bring him back. There are others players out there who will do a decent job for us if we look hard enough. I'm sure we have other targets.

It doesn't rankle with me and it sounds like one of the reasons he left was us mucking around offering a contract anyway.

Have you looked hard for these other players we could sign?

 

[Frank the tank]

Mcburnie and bbd would cause anal trauma to championship defences

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

Mcburnie and bbd would cause anal trauma to championship defences

Yep. There's no way Wilder won't have watched what they did at times in the PL and thought 'if only I could get these 2 together again next season'. He won't give up on the possibility easily this window

 

[Frank the tank]

Yep. There's no way Wilder won't have watched what they did at times in the PL and thought 'if only I could get these 2 together again next season'. He won't give up on the possibility easily this window

Think most blades were in agreement that they would be far too good at this level
Unfortunately that was when we looked like losing them both and now that we could end up. Getting them. Back they will never admit this

 

[Weasel]

It doesn't rankle with me and it sounds like one of the reasons he left was us mucking around offering a contract anyway.

Have you looked hard for these other players we could sign?

No. Because it's not my job.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

It doesn't rankle with me and it sounds like one of the reasons he left was us mucking around offering a contract anyway.

Have you looked hard for these other players we could sign?

I would only take him back on a loan basis. I think that he would increase our chances of automatic promotion markedly. The same can be said for BBD, who will carry on where he left off with us.

At the moment, unless an absolute bargain/once in a decade opportunity presents itself, acquiring players on a short term basis for as little as possible, to gain promotion should be our only consideration.

The story I was told was that McB had a wage calculation in his contract renewal clause that was initiated before the start of last season that meant that he was one of the highest players at the club. It meant a more than doubling of his wage, and was based upon the number of goals he scored & us getting promotion. He did very well out of it, and probably pushed him to a wage that certain people at the club thought was above his market value.

His Agent's starting point for the negotiation on his new deal was a continuation of the PL wage, but in the championship, with the same increase mechanism if we got promoted and he scored a certain number of goals.

Worst case, we couldn't afford/weren't prepared to pay that as an ongoing wage in the championship and best case, it presented a level of wage that if we got promoted we felt could get a better level of player for.

I suspect his view was that this was a new deal & any wage/signing on fee was in the absence of a full transfer fee, where as we probably took the view that we'd overpaid/paid full value for him already during his time with us.

 

[SUFC Guy]

A forward line of McB, BBD, Campbell and Moore should be more than enough to get us over the line.

It's a Yes from me.

 

[McGrath]

No. Because it's not my job.

Ah... So you don't actually know if there's any players out there who could do a decent job

 

[ben1987]

We reportedly offered him a 40% pay cut. So people slagging him off for not re-signing immediately need to remember he was entitled to see what else was around.

 

[Frank the tank]

We reportedly offered him a 40% pay cut. So people slagging him off for not re-signing immediately need to remember he was entitled to see what else was around.

I heard he had been offered peanuts and was very close to taking it untill the Las palmas offer came in at the last minute and he couldn't say no to that

 

[McGrath]

I heard he had been offered peanuts and was very close to taking it untill the Las palmas offer came in at the last minute and he couldn't say no to that

I heard similar. Also that we'd been low balling other players and that's why some we didn't want to leave, left

 

[Lucky1979]

I wanted McBurnie to stay over all the others that left in the summer.

Do I want him back now? No.

Why? How many goals do you think he would have compared to Moore? How many shit penalties would he have taken and free headers would he miss, like Moore has. Or do you prefer a striker that looks like he’s constantly running through treacle, can’t finish, can’t hold up the ball and can’t take penalties? If he’d stayed he would be our top scorer by a considerable distance given the chances Moore has been given and fucked up

 

[Bladeloyal]

I heard similar. Also that we'd been low balling other players and that's why some we didn't want to leave, left

It's called negotiating he wasn't worth the wages were paying him ,he got a better deal in Spain where they now think they are paying to much .

 

[Weasel]

Ah... So you don't actually know if there's any players out there who could do a decent job

Well yes, I do know that there are otber players out there other than McBurnie who will do a very good job for us if we look hard enough.

I don't know specifically who by name, but then as previously stated, it's not my job to do know as I'm not employed by SUFC recruitment dept.

Of course, you might have a point if McBurnie is the only forward available to us this January in the entire football world. However, I strongly suspect that he isn't the case though. I also strongly suspect that you are talking out of your arse though. In fact, I'm pretty certain of the latter and I've not actually see you in person doing it either. Somethings you just know.

 

[Weasel]

We reportedly offered him a 40% pay cut. So people slagging him off for not re-signing immediately need to remember he was entitled to see what else was around.

I agree. I also think that the club was also doing what it needed to do in trying to cut its cloth after relegation and knowing it needed a huge turnover in players.

If McBurnie was on £20k a week (I believe that was pretty much confirmed as being his basic before he left), the club offering him £12k a week having gone back into the Championship with a promotion charge very much not on the cards this season, was i think, a perfectly acceptable offer bearing in mind the time he hasn't been available to us for various reasons. Of course, he was well within his rights to look about, but unless we have offered and then withdrawn a contract offer then I don't see where the 'club mucking him about' thing comes from. We made him an offer, he thought he could get more elsewhere. That's it really.

 

[Pintor75]

New owners need new players, onwards and upwards not going backwards

 

[SUFC Guy]

New owners need new players, onwards and upwards not going backwards

He will do a job until the summer I'm certain of it.

 

[Pintor75]

He will do a job until the summer I'm certain of it.

I get what you're saying and Maybe he would ,but what then?, can't cut it in prem if we go up and then we still need a striker for next year any way

 

[ben1987]

I heard he had been offered peanuts and was very close to taking it untill the Las palmas offer came in at the last minute and he couldn't say no to that

Exactly this. If he could get more money / match our offer and to live out there and play against Barca / Real who could blame him.

Well yes, I do know that there are otber players out there other than McBurnie who will do a very good job for us if we look hard enough.

I don't know specifically who by name, but then as previously stated, it's not my job to do know as I'm not employed by SUFC recruitment dept.

Of course, you might have a point if McBurnie is the only forward available to us this January in the entire football world. However, I strongly suspect that he isn't the case though. I also strongly suspect that you are talking out of your arse though. In fact, I'm pretty certain of the latter and I've not actually see you in person doing it either. Somethings you just know.

I’m sure the offer was based on what the club thought it could afford versus what they thought he was worth.

He got what he thought was a better offer - can’t blame him for taking it.

I didn’t say the club had mucked him about at all. I said we reportedly offered him a new deal on 40% less than he was before. He looked around as he was perfectly entitled to do and found a deal that at the time suited himself and his family better. What I do not understand is people slagging off McBurnie for not signing the contract. If my work turned round and said you can stay but on 40% less I’d be having a look round as well. He didn’t do anything wrong where as there’s plenty of people on the forums / social media slagging him off for leaving.

 

[Cappy]

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

A forward line of McB, BBD, Campbell and Moore should be more than enough to get us over the line.

It's a Yes from me.

Think you just listed half the attendees of Sicknotes Anonymous. Could do with 1 proper goalscorer that doesn't spend half their time in the physios office.

 

[ml1997]

Think you just listed half the attendees of Sicknotes Anonymous. Could do with 1 proper goalscorer that doesn't spend half their time in the physios office.

A 20 goal a season championship striker costs £10m+. A group of strikers that can get a high amount of goals between them is a much better option.

 

[Weasel]

Exactly this. If he could get more money / match our offer and to live out there and play against Barca / Real who could blame him.



I’m sure the offer was based on what the club thought it could afford versus what they thought he was worth.

He got what he thought was a better offer - can’t blame him for taking it.

I didn’t say the club had mucked him about at all. I said we reportedly offered him a new deal on 40% less than he was before. He looked around as he was perfectly entitled to do and found a deal that at the time suited himself and his family better. What I do not understand is people slagging off McBurnie for not signing the contract. If my work turned round and said you can stay but on 40% less I’d be having a look round as well. He didn’t do anything wrong where as there’s plenty of people on the forums / social media slagging him off for leaving.

Again, I agree with you.

By the way, i didn't say that you had said that 'the club had mucked him about'. Others have though. See post 1082 as an example. I have also seen it said by others about the clubs offer to McBurnie. Unless we offered something then retracted it before his contract ran out then I can't agree with that sentiment. The club obviously would have offered whatbit thought was fair and reasonable in the current financial circumstances. He obviously thought he could do better, and in all probability, he did get a better contract financially than the one we offered as well as a better lifestyle. He moved on with my best wishes anyway.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

A 20 goal a season championship striker costs £10m+. A group of strikers that can get a high amount of goals between them is a much better option.

If they can rota their sicknotes so 2 are always fit, then maybe. But not sure they can.

 

[YES Blade]

New owners need new players, onwards and upwards not going backwards

If McBurnie is the best striker available, we should sign him. Just sign the best players, don’t matter who his previous clubs are

 

[SUFC Guy]

I get what you're saying and Maybe he would ,but what then?, can't cut it in prem if we go up and then we still need a striker for next year any way

I meant until the summer and that's it mate.

 

[SUFC Guy]

Think you just listed half the attendees of Sicknotes Anonymous. Could do with 1 proper goalscorer that doesn't spend half their time in the physios office.

That's why we need 4 main strikers

 

[ancientblade]

not for me new owners should mean a new era not going back to the old one surely we can bring a better striker in than mcburnie power and pace is what we need

 

[TJ blade]

New owners need new players, onwards and upwards not going backwards

Thank you