Mcburnie

[1889]

Would you not have Ndiaye and Berge back then? McB is way better than Moore.

Unfortunately, I think that’s like arguing who is the tallest dwarf ?

 

[Balham]

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That would leave Souza with a ridiculous amount of defensive work to do.

 

[wizadry]

That would leave Souza with a ridiculous amount of defensive work to do.

I prefer Kevin Keegan styled games anyway.

 

[S40BLADE]

That would leave Souza with a ridiculous amount of defensive work to do.

Hamer was more than defensively solid and at his most productive when playing deeper for coventry either in a double pivot or on right hand side of midfield diamond. And on occassion played either the deeper role or the most advanced role in a 3511. COH and BBD also more than capable of making up that defensive workrate difference if present also.

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

It's a revolutionary idea and will never catch on, but perhaps we could simply sign someone who hasn't played for us before

 

[Cheesebored]

Everyone without a personal vendetta against Ol agrees with this pal, don't worry.

On a loan until the end of the season, it just makes sense from our perspective.
If we got promoted, that's when we look at other options.
He's shown he has a great understanding with BBD and is a big upgrade on our current number 9.
I think he'd be a success in this new setup.

Obviously given Dronnie's concrete ties with the Las Palmas backroom staff, it sounds like they'd be willing to get Ol on a flight as soon as possible.

Why is it always a vendetta? I don't rate Mcburnie personally but if he could stay fit he'd be a good option short term.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Why is it always a vendetta? I don't rate Mcburnie personally but if he could stay fit he'd be a good option short term.

One of our main players in coming 9th, joint top goal scorer for us when we last got promoted. In a good side in the championship he's about as good as we could get

 

[Vass Borbokis]

Why is it always a vendetta? I don't rate Mcburnie personally but if he could stay fit he'd be a good option short term.

I was mainly referring to one poster's personal anti-McBurnie crusade that's been ongoing for several years now.
The poster who now has ties at Las Palmas and knows what goes on behind closed doors.

Everyone is going to have opinions.
You're well within your rights to not rate Oli of course.

My opinion is he's that we need better than Ol in the premier league.
In the championship however, I think it'd be a good, short-term move.

 

[Balham]

Hamer was more than defensively solid and at his most productive when playing deeper for coventry either in a double pivot or on right hand side of midfield diamond. And on occassion played either the deeper role or the most advanced role in a 3511. COH and BBD also more than capable of making up that defensive workrate difference if present also.

Hamer had a pass completion rate for Coventry of 68% in 22/23 playing in that role. Given that we struggle with transitions at the moment and Peck (81.8%), Davies (86.4%), Arblaster (85.1%) and (ridiculously) Souza (89%) get castigated for giving the ball away we'd be in all kinds of trouble if Hamer was chucking away possesion 1 in 3 times at the base of the midfield.

 

[TankersleyBlade]

If the BBD deal is done as suggested by some and we only have one more space for an attacking player then i'd prefer us to bring in a player with similar characteristics to Campbell, i.e. pace and movement to stretch teams and run in behind. We've missed that over the last few weeks. KM up top on his own with his back to goal and limited movement is like a handbrake on our attacking play. Compounded by the fact he rarely makes it into a good position to be on the end of any crosses. His best all round performance, by a mile, came at Blackburn with TC alongside him.

In the absence of any better targets with more pace then i'd take Oli on loan. If McBurnie is fit, then at his best i think he does have the movement, if not express pace, to stretch teams. Certainly much more so than KM. We've scored plenty of goals at both PL and Champ levels where Oli has done this for us. He also has already had a good playing relationship with BBD.

 

[wizadry]

Hamer had a pass completion rate for Coventry of 68% in 22/23 playing in that role. Given that we struggle with transitions at the moment and Peck (81.8%), Davies (86.4%), Arblaster (85.1%) and (ridiculously) Souza (89%) get castigated for giving the ball away we'd be in all kinds of trouble if Hamer was chucking away possesion 1 in 3 times at the base of the midfield.

Do me a favour Balham , please go away with good stats and facts and let some of us play the Kevin Keegan style football. Much appreciated, Wiz!

 

[Jordo Blade.]

I'd have the other 2 back in a heartbeat. They're luxury players, particularly Ndiaye.

There are plenty of strikers out there who can score the same amount of goals McBurnie can. All of similar cost too.

I always liked McBurnie and defended him on here, but I'd rather is invest in pace up front

Bang on mate.

 

[S40BLADE]

Hamer had a pass completion rate for Coventry of 68% in 22/23 playing in that role. Given that we struggle with transitions at the moment and Peck (81.8%), Davies (86.4%), Arblaster (85.1%) and (ridiculously) Souza (89%) get castigated for giving the ball away we'd be in all kinds of trouble if Hamer was chucking away possesion 1 in 3 times at the base of the midfield.

Great stats, also love replies getting in to the nitty gritty even if im wrong far too many people dont have the patience to post stuff like this.

 

[Cheesebored]

One of our main players in coming 9th, joint top goal scorer for us when we last got promoted. In a good side in the championship he's about as good as we could get

In that case let's sign Fleck, Norwood, Enda et al. Like i said a decent squad addition to the seasons end if he can stay fit.

 

[Antarctic Monkey]

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That forward line is taking no shit from no one.

 

[McGrath]

Hamer had a pass completion rate for Coventry of 68% in 22/23 playing in that role. Given that we struggle with transitions at the moment and Peck (81.8%), Davies (86.4%), Arblaster (85.1%) and (ridiculously) Souza (89%) get castigated for giving the ball away we'd be in all kinds of trouble if Hamer was chucking away possesion 1 in 3 times at the base of the midfield.

If Hamer could stop giving the ball away, then he'd be a Premier League player.

Half his yellows are because he has to chase back and foul an opposition player he's just passed too.

He can't play centre midfield for us. I get why people might think that way, but no

 

[Eric_Brooks]

If Hamer could stop giving the ball away, then he'd be a Premier League player.

Half his yellows are because he has to chase back and foul an opposition player he's just passed too.

He can't play centre midfield for us. I get why people might think that way, but no

Hamer is a vertical facing player. Tends to lose the ball playing sideways and back. Stick him on the wing or attacking mid. This is why we need players to play through the gaps more jnto spaces he gets into

 

[Antarctic Monkey]

If Hamer could stop giving the ball away, then he'd be a Premier League player.

Half his yellows are because he has to chase back and foul an opposition player he's just passed too.

He can't play centre midfield for us. I get why people might think that way, but no

De Bruynes stats aren't great in this regard for the very same reason, attempting defence splitting passes.

Very difficult to do with a high goal scoring rate when completed. Risk vs reward.

 

[loyalblade95]

Mcburnie played his best football for us a in a partnership with Ndiaye, his partnership with BBD a close second.

Who knows, maybe BBD playing alongside him (or on the LW) might make Moore improve as BBD could perhaps do the things Moore isn't so good at, and vice versa.

Similar to Anel/Souttar this season as they both covered up each others weaknesses, Souttars lack of pace vs Anel's lack of physicality.

 

[Irv]

De Bruynes stats aren't great in this regard for the very same reason, attempting defence splitting passes.

Very difficult to do with a high goal scoring rate when completed. Risk vs reward.

Exactly. Hamer loses the ball at times as he tries to make things happen, I’m sure he could knock it sideways and backwards and up his completion percentage but that’s not why he’s in the team.

 

[Irv]

Mcburnie played his best football for us a in a partnership with Ndiaye, his partnership with BBD a close second.

Who knows, maybe BBD playing alongside him (or on the LW) might make Moore improve as BBD could perhaps do the things Moore isn't so good at, and vice versa.

Similar to Anel/Souttar this season as they both covered up each others weaknesses, Souttars lack of pace vs Anel's lack of physicality.

Do you think Anel lacks physicality? I don’t see him getting bullied by attackers tbf. I think he lacks concentration and switches off at times which is his main weakness.

 

[Balham]

Exactly. Hamer loses the ball at times as he tries to make things happen, I’m sure he could knock it sideways and backwards and up his completion percentage but that’s not why he’s in the team.

Hamer loses the ball every other forward pass and about one in four simple sideways passes. He is a superb footballer at this level but there is a very good reason we play him in an advanced role.

 

[Irv]

Hamer loses the ball every other forward pass and about one in four simple sideways passes. He is a superb footballer at this level but there is a very good reason we play him in an advanced role.

In no way am I advocating playing at the base of midfield- not his forte at all.
Some Blades fans cry out for a flair player, then crucify them when they lose the ball.
His pass completion rate this season is 73% so I think you’re being a tad unfair.

 

[Frank the tank]

It's a revolutionary idea and will never catch on, but perhaps we could simply sign someone who hasn't played for us before

Like o hare, hamer, Moore, McCallum, cooper, gilchrist, Campbell, rak sakyi
Burrows, souttar,and Shackleton?

 

[loyalblade95]

Do you think Anel lacks physicality? I don’t see him getting bullied by attackers tbf. I think he lacks concentration and switches off at times which is his main weakness.

He doesn't lack physicality, but Souttar was a lot stronger, especially in the air.

Whereas Anel is a bit easier to knock off the ball, but he's a lot quicker than Souttar, especially tracking back and stopping counterattacks.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Everywhere else he’s been he’s been pretty much an automatic first pick when fit. Now he isn’t, which probably doesn’t sit well with him. But La Liga is possibly a step above his abilities as a player, as was the PL.

Again, as with BBD I’m not sure that’s proven out.
He got 6 goals in 20 appearances in an incredibly poor side last season and the same return in his first PL season where he certainly looked competent at the level we needed.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

It's a revolutionary idea and will never catch on, but perhaps we could simply sign someone who hasn't played for us before

Which of the players who we signed in the summer had played for us before? I’m struggling to think of one?

Edit: just seen Frank make the same point. It’s true though.

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

Which of the players who we signed in the summer had played for us before? I’m struggling to think of one?

Edit: just seen Frank make the same point. It’s true though.

It was more a point about the denizens of the Rumour Mill having even more limited fields of vision than our scouting department.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

If it's a loan, GERRIMIN.
He's a deadweight in the prem though, so wouldn't want to sign him long term and squander our limited resources on him at that level.

 

[TJ blade]

He's a plodder! It's pace we want.