Marcus Rashford

[petcharlie]

A great example of a lad who now having a privileged lifestyle hasn’t forgotten his roots and those less fortunate.
A credit to his family and to football. And the kind of person every young person...not just those who like football, should aspire to.

The reason the young lad thinks this way is the fact he has been in that position and witnessed his mum trying so hard to feed her kids.I would love to force that arsehole Katie Hopkins to live like that for 12 months.

 

[petcharlie]

Great to see he has been given a gong in the honours list .Not a fan of honours list but I like this one.About time some who are worthy of a gong who have actually done something worth while have been rewarded.Well done son.

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

 

[SUFCinks]

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Hes about to poor 100 billion of public money into project moonshot with his brother and dad on the board. It’s weird how thats fine but poverty and wellbeing aren't...

 

[Tarqs]

Could have saved a few quid on this 12bn world leading track and trace system.

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

Hes about to poor 100 billion of public money into project moonshot with his brother and dad on the board. It’s weird how thats fine but poverty and wellbeing aren't...

Another example of the Government using public money to line the pockets of family and friends!

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

Darlington Tory MP Peter Gibson
Blackpool Tory MP Scott Benton
East Yorkshire Tory MP Greg Knight
Richmond (Yorkshire) Tory MP Rishi Sunak
Berwick Tory MP Anne-Marie Trevelyan
Stockton Tory MP Matt Vickers
Redcar Tory MP Jacob Young

All voted against kids getting free school meals... in some of the most deprived areas.

Whilst all Labour MPs voted for free school meals, including

Sunderland Julie Elliot / Sharon Hodgson
Newcastle
Gateshead
Durham
South Shields
Easington
Doncaster
Tynemouth
North Tyneside

If you voted for a Tory, you voted for 1.4 million kids to not get free meals. With over 25% of the UK in poverty, some of these kids only get good meals at school. If (when) we have full lock down, the parents of these kids then have to pay extra from money they don’t have, on meals because the kids are at home.

But Boris says it will increase dependency on the state... whilst we have national lock downs, record job losses, millions on zero hour contracts, minimum wage jobs and are about to leave the EU with no deal which will lose hundreds of thousands of jobs if not
Millions or just cancel the working hours of zero hour contracts.

 

[Rochdaleblade]

The kids would still get free school meals in term time as usual. I don't see why there is a sudden need for them to receive them when they are out of school. I have taught kids whose parents are absolute scum, but to my knowledge I've never met a kid whose parents are not feeding them and are spending all of their dole money on drugs and booze. If I did suspect that this was the case I would be obliged by law to report this would be neglect and therefore a safeguarding issue.

Personally, I would like to see the Child Benefit system changed, so that all children get meal vouchers. This would eliminate the stigma and also ensure that this money was spent on the children's needs.

I am dubious about some of the statistics on poverty, from my own personal experience. A quick google tells me that the definition of poverty in the UK is below 60% of the average (I am assuming it means the mean). This equates to around £195 per week for a one parent family with two kids. In my eyes that does not equate to someone living on the breadline. In fact using this metric, my family were living below the poverty line for a few months this year.

 

[Chris the Blade]

Darlington Tory MP Peter Gibson
Blackpool Tory MP Scott Benton
East Yorkshire Tory MP Greg Knight
Richmond (Yorkshire) Tory MP Rishi Sunak
Berwick Tory MP Anne-Marie Trevelyan
Stockton Tory MP Matt Vickers
Redcar Tory MP Jacob Young

All voted against kids getting free school meals... in some of the most deprived areas.

Whilst all Labour MPs voted for free school meals, including

Sunderland Julie Elliot / Sharon Hodgson
Newcastle
Gateshead
Durham
South Shields
Easington
Doncaster
Tynemouth
North Tyneside

If you voted for a Tory, you voted for 1.4 million kids to not get free meals. With over 25% of the UK in poverty, some of these kids only get good meals at school. If (when) we have full lock down, the parents of these kids then have to pay extra from money they don’t have, on meals because the kids are at home.

But Boris says it will increase dependency on the state... whilst we have national lock downs, record job losses, millions on zero hour contracts, minimum wage jobs and are about to leave the EU with no deal which will lose hundreds of thousands of jobs if not
Millions or just cancel the working hours of zero hour contracts.
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Labour were in power for over a decade and never introduced free school meals. The left always preach one thing and do the opposite in power.

 

[AWetFlannel]

The kids would still get free school meals in term time as usual. I don't see why there is a sudden need for them to receive them when they are out of school. I have taught kids whose parents are absolute scum, but to my knowledge I've never met a kid whose parents are not feeding them and are spending all of their dole money on drugs and booze. If I did suspect that this was the case I would be obliged by law to report this would be neglect and therefore a safeguarding issue.

Personally, I would like to see the Child Benefit system changed, so that all children get meal vouchers. This would eliminate the stigma and also ensure that this money was spent on the children's needs.

I am dubious about some of the statistics on poverty, from my own personal experience. A quick google tells me that the definition of poverty in the UK is below 60% of the average (I am assuming it means the mean). This equates to around £195 per week for a one parent family with two kids. In my eyes that does not equate to someone living on the breadline. In fact using this metric, my family were living below the poverty line for a few months this year.

Poverty doesn't just mean being on the breadline. It describes people that can't afford to provide the essentials for themselves and their dependants.

A meal voucher system comes with loads of other added stigma, like suggesting that poor parents can't be trusted with the money.

 

[AWetFlannel]

Labour were in power for over a decade and never introduced free school meals. The left always preach one thing and do the opposite in power.

That's because Blair and Brown were not even close to being on the left.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Labour were in power for over a decade and never introduced free school meals. The left always preach one thing and do the opposite in power.

That Labour Government was far from perfect, but levels of poverty/inequality were much lower, and the focus was on raising incomes to reduce the need for aid.

 

[S64 Blade]

Labour were in power for over a decade and never introduced free school meals. The left always preach one thing and do the opposite in power.

So you agree that this needs introducing?

 

[Rochdaleblade]

Poverty doesn't just mean being on the breadline. It describes people that can't afford to provide the essentials for themselves and their dependants.

A meal voucher system comes with loads of other added stigma, like suggesting that poor parents can't be trusted with the money.

Poverty doesn't just mean being on the breadline. It describes people that can't afford to provide the essentials for themselves and their dependants.

A meal voucher system comes with loads of other added stigma, like suggesting that poor parents can't be trusted with the money.

My point was that if all parents received the voucher then there would be no stigma attached.

 

[SK10Blade]

Isn't it just wrong that in the fifth richest economy in the world we have to even discuss kids getting vouchers?

 

[Whiston Blade]

Even if the parents get vouchers to feed their kids, you get ones who spend it on whatever they like because vouchers aren't valid for just food or clothes for kids. You can get parents rocking up to the checkout at Tesco with a 24 crate of booze and a bit of food and use the vouchers to pay for them all. Thankfully some staff will refuse (and rightly so) but if they kick up a fuss and speak to a manager they'll most likely side with the customer and allow it.

 

[Carlton Blade]

To the people saying "I've seen parents buying booze" "parents are to blame here" "they shouldn't be having kids" "it's not my job to pay for lazy parents" "It's not that bad, I've been skint" etc etc etc

Go and spend some time actually looking into the situations of some of these children. It's not the ones that turn up for school every day but you can see are poor. It's the levels below that. The kids with parents with mental health issues, drug/alcohol abuse issues, domestic violence problems, parents who are unable to work due to health problems (often stemming from an upbringing in poverty themselves) and those kids who are faced with true and utter neglect. They are living in places that have no heating, water or even electricity sometimes. They are being asked to care for younger siblings.

This country is broken in a lot of ways. But to take the stance that children in impossible situations shouldn't be helped is beyond my understanding.

The free meals would just be a plaster over a broken system that needs review, funding and to be given so much more attention than it gets. Just providing each area of the country with a couple of admin staff would allow social workers to get out to see the most vulnerable children more often. To try and pick up on those in such bad situations they need to go into care earlier and to generally give these children a chance at a life beyond misery.

When the horrible child abuse case came up in Rotherham, the social services team there were given loads more resources for everything. Now that's out of people's minds, all those resources have been taken away again and it's back to amazing people trying desperately to hold together a system that neglects far too many people who need it.

There needs to be massive reform but before that there needs to be a realisation that it's not fair in a society like ours to just ignore a problem like this

 

[Rochdaleblade]

To the people saying "I've seen parents buying booze" "parents are to blame here" "they shouldn't be having kids" "it's not my job to pay for lazy parents" "It's not that bad, I've been skint" etc etc etc

Go and spend some time actually looking into the situations of some of these children. It's not the ones that turn up for school every day but you can see are poor. It's the levels below that. The kids with parents with mental health issues, drug/alcohol abuse issues, domestic violence problems, parents who are unable to work due to health problems (often stemming from an upbringing in poverty themselves) and those kids who are faced with true and utter neglect. They are living in places that have no heating, water or even electricity sometimes. They are being asked to care for younger siblings.

This country is broken in a lot of ways. But to take the stance that children in impossible situations shouldn't be helped is beyond my understanding.

The free meals would just be a plaster over a broken system that needs review, funding and to be given so much more attention than it gets. Just providing each area of the country with a couple of admin staff would allow social workers to get out to see the most vulnerable children more often. To try and pick up on those in such bad situations they need to go into care earlier and to generally give these children a chance at a life beyond misery.

When the horrible child abuse case came up in Rotherham, the social services team there were given loads more resources for everything. Now that's out of people's minds, all those resources have been taken away again and it's back to amazing people trying desperately to hold together a system that neglects far too many people who need it.

There needs to be massive reform but before that there needs to be a realisation that it's not fair in a society like ours to just ignore a problem like this

I agree with most of that, but the key word for me in that is neglect. The parents should be prosecuted if their child is not being cared for. That is a form of abuse. As a teacher I am legally obliged to report cases like this.

 

[LondonBlade89]

Labour were in power for over a decade and never introduced free school meals. The left always preach one thing and do the opposite in power.

Bore off. “The left” / “the right”. The point Rashford made very eloquently is this kind of thing should be beyond party politics or affiliation. If someone wants to call out current politicians for voting against it, all power to them. But to reply and say “yes but the left....” ... it beggars belief.

 

[Carlton Blade]

I agree with most of that, but the key word for me in that is neglect. The parents should be prosecuted if their child is not being cared for. That is a form of abuse. As a teacher I am legally obliged to report cases like this.

And like I said, the social care system can't cope with even that amount of referrals. Never mind the kids who don't even make it to school on a regular basis

 

[Rodders]

Just have a look at Marcus Rashford’s twitter timeline this morning. Nearly brought a tear to my eye - utterly humbling.

 

[metalblade]

I don't suppose Marcus is handing over a months of his huge wages for the local kids in Manchester? As for those who say they can't afford to feed their kids why don't they go without? Do they really need the latest i-phone, do their starving kids need to be taken to school in a SUV/4x4, do their parent need to smoke, booze or do drugs in some cases. Oh and in this day and age there is no need to have kids if you can't support them unless that is to get a council house as a single parent.

 

[Klaatu Barada Nikto]

Isn't it just wrong that in the fifth richest economy in the world we have to even discuss kids getting vouchers?

It happens in the largest economy in the world too.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I don't suppose Marcus is handing over a months of his huge wages for the local kids in Manchester? As for those who say they can't afford to feed their kids why don't they go without? Do they really need the latest i-phone, do their starving kids need to be taken to school in a SUV/4x4, do their parent need to smoke, booze or do drugs in some cases. Oh and in this day and age there is no need to have kids if you can't support them unless that is to get a council house as a single parent.

Wow. You think its those type of families that this campaign is aimed at? Its kids far far further down the line than that. How can you make sweeping generalisations like that and just decide the campaign is worthless.

Oh, and I suspect Rashford does donate money. But what he is currently doing, money cannot buy.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I wont engage again on this thread. The only thing I will say, is that if you are against what Rashford is doing - hang your head in shame.

 

[Rochdaleblade]

I don't suppose Marcus is handing over a months of his huge wages for the local kids in Manchester? As for those who say they can't afford to feed their kids why don't they go without? Do they really need the latest i-phone, do their starving kids need to be taken to school in a SUV/4x4, do their parent need to smoke, booze or do drugs in some cases. Oh and in this day and age there is no need to have kids if you can't support them unless that is to get a council house as a single parent.

I am not sure if this is a joke or not but there was actually a pupil premium (I.e. free school meals) child at my last school who used to get dropped off in a BMW SUV every morning. Obviously this is an extreme example but practically every child I teach has a smartphone. I contrast this with my own childhood where we never had a car, telephone or VHS, or that of my nannan, who used to go all week without sugar in her tea so that she could make a cake for her kids at the weekend.

 

[Farnboroughblade]

Personally, I don't like to read threads like this on a footy forum. We are all at one in supporting the Blades, yet we are tearing each other apart with political left/centre/right wing views. If there is a need for this, then why not have a section where if you're inclined to view such material, it's separate from the rest. Those who wish to get involved can go there for their stick bashing, but does not drag the rest of us into such debate. Just a thought.

 

[corner_flag]

Noted.

Rashford will get a huge round of applause when he next comes to The Lane. What a fantastic fella.

Sadly the only people there to applaud him will be the ball boys and the ground staff