Lundstrum and humble pie

[Paisley Blade]

That’s no way to talk of Mrs Paisley!!!

She's still not talking after this morning's Rugby debacle !

 

[Stretch]

I might need to have a nibble, just a bit of the crust. Always thought we had a player in there, was just taking it's time to come out.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Ge’or soft lad, he was aiming for the corner and scuffed it.

 

[FMBlade1]

Yep, I had posted that we would be in a difficult season with him in the team. It may turn out to be true (hopefully not of course) until then I'll have daily portions

 

[BLADES1988]

I’ve been a Lunny fan since day one! So ner ner ner ner ner

 

[Bill Johnson]

I’ve been a Lunny fan since day one! So ner ner ner ner ner

No one likes a smartarse.
Or a pork pie merchant..

 

[Sheff de party]

I’ll take a slice for Lundstram (though he’s still our least talented midfielder) and I will take an entire factory of it for saying we’ll never get any better with Basham in the team.

Always loved his work rate and dedication, but Bash simply isn’t a league one centre half, so I opined.

5 years or so later and he’s a very competent Premier League centre half and he absolutely deserves to be be.

In my defence, I did defend Coutts a lot before he was ace and I said signing Ched against was stupid.

 

[derfblade.3]

Our lass slagged Lunny off at first but doesn't like humble pie, so she did a banana instead. Is that ok?

 

[blader]

I still think he poses us with a real conundrum. Lundtram has been our best midfielder this year, and I also am eating humble pie.

He is undoubtedly benefiting from the flat 3 midfield however I worry that this is to the detriment of Norwood and Fleck.

I think most of us also acknowledge we need to play with a number 10 at home. Which would mean dropping one of the 3. The conundrum then being that Lundstram has been our best midfielder, but I would argue the other 2 are more suited to the 2 man midfield. It's a really difficult one for home games. I think we have found our away set up, but we do need to change things up at home, meaning something has to give. Might seem harsh, but I'd be tempted to try (in the game after Liverpool, which doesn't count!) a 3-4-1-2 at home but with Freeman in for Lundstram. He has certainly given us an extra option we never knew we had though!

I do think the flat 3 really restricts Norwood's ability to orchestrate our play though.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Were we wrong though?..We were mainly saying he couldn't play the Coutts role,certainly I was...anybody could see he had a long pass,good physicality,a potential goal threat from distance,and maybe something to offer further down the line.
I'll take my slice though,i didn't think he'd nail down a regular place in the Prem...fair play to the lad.

I've said similar before so not quite ready to take my dose yet. Lundstram isn't a replacement for Coutts or Duffy, he's suited to playing in a flat 3 which has served us well in establishing ourselves so far this season. 10/10 so far. However, our limitations in midfield are patently obvious as we are unable to hold possession for more than 2 passes at a time, which in turn puts undue pressure on the back. There has to be a point though when Wilder decides to assert ourselves on a match and he'll be looking for a bit more quality in midfield than what we have now.

So far then, its about right with Lundstram but we have to move forward with our midfield options at some stage if we are to progress.

 

[super_pig]

Let's be honest, if anyone had suggested, this time last season, that Lundstram would replace Duffy, and in the Premier league, they'd have been hounded out of town and committed, wearing a straight jacket.

ricky (?) nearly was

 

[super_pig]

I've said similar before so not quite ready to take my dose yet. Lundstram isn't a replacement for Coutts or Duffy, he's suited to playing in a flat 3 which has served us well in establishing ourselves so far this season. 10/10 so far. However, our limitations in midfield are patently obvious as we are unable to hold possession for more than 2 passes at a time, which in turn puts undue pressure on the back. There has to be a point though when Wilder decides to assert ourselves on a match and he'll be looking for a bit more quality in midfield than what we have now.

So far then, its about right with Lundstram but we have to move forward with our midfield options at some stage if we are to progress.

that will happen pretty soon when teams start coming to defend .. then we can go back to our normal system

 

[PittsburghBlade]

Honestly watch the game back in its entirety and tell everyone you feel the same. Bar the through ball he gave it away something like 6 out of 7 times he had it, 4 under no pressure and 2 completely out of play with 2 sliced.

I really am happy he's doing a good job defensively but we can do so much better.

 

[nopigfansintown]

None required here:

I'm disappointed we sold him for the fee we did, and am not remotely surprised he is so well thought of at Everton - he was outstanding at academy level. If the fee allows Wilder to strengthen substantially in January - and we get promotion as a result,- it'll have been worth it: I think he is still a year or two from being ready to mix it consistently in the senior game, and we already have good options at this level.

Plays a bit like Michael Carrick. Excellent passer of the ball.

Let's hope so. However the top clubs don't miss anything or anyone. They didn't need to watch today's game to learn about David Brooks.

Our best player since he became a permanent fixture in the side. It has been obvious for anyone who watches and analyses the games - with no prejudices.

Agree with your assessment apart from your view of Lundstram. He's been the best midfielder we've added this season by some distance - has done far more than Evans thus far. Still all toplay for though, Preston and Boro have to come to the Lane, and we have to go to Bristol City. We also have players to return from injury to bolster us.

Been excellent seen he came to the club.There's only three Blades players with more technical ability than him, and none with the passing range.This was apparent to the naked eye after his first couple of games.I agree that he needs to get fitter, and that he is is somewhat hampered by his mobility.It's frightening how good he could be next season.

Two great goals, and a fine through ball for Clarke represents an excellent night's work. Overall I find myself wanting more from Evans though. He lacks consistency in his performances: excellent one game and pretty poor the next; to the extent I can't believe it's the same player. To be fair, we were warned by Wolves fans that this was the case. I think he has the technical ability, and regular Championship games under an excellent management team should only help him.He's a young 23 in terms of regular games played - it's easy to forget that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Evans_(footballer)
Not sure what people are watching, when they think he's been better than Lundstram in his Blades career so far though...

Paul Coutts was a busted flush before Wilder's first pre season.John Fleck was seen as lazy by Coventry fans. Jack O'Connell was too slow and top heavy for the Championship - according to Brentford fans. Leon Clarke arrived at United needing a minor operation, and didn't really get going properly until his second season and first full pre season.He's never been as energic and hard working anywhere, and he's in the twilight years of his career.Mark Duffy was completely revolutionised into a high pressing, hard working pivot in the Wilder team.The man who wins the ball high up the pitch.John Lundstram looks heavy and visibly tires after an hour of every game.It's likely that he was managing himself through games last season, conserving energy. They are not used to playing at the intensity required in a Blades set up.I'm also looking forward to seeing Baldock with a full, uninterrupted pre season behind him.Wilder was full of praise for Holmes in his interview the other day after, I think, slagging off his fitness, work rate and effort in training last year ("not doing enough").United haven't had as good an off field fitness setup since Tony Daley in the Warnock era.It can make all the difference in turning a good player into an excellent one at this level.It's also another reason to get signings in as early as possible.

Technically he's extremely proficient. His passing range is superb, although he's more likely to give away a short one than a long one.Mobility is the issue. This can only be compensated by superb reading of the game which will come through experience.

We lost the midfield when Lundstram went off, after controlling it for the majority of the game.

No chance, best passing range at the club with the exception of Norwood. It's the rest of his game that lets him down.

 

[bricktop]

No humble pie required here.

I knew all along that he had bags of potential, I saw he was a superb tackler and an accomplished passer of the ball, he just needed to improve his mobility and decision making.

A couple of years ago it became embarrassing some of the stick he got when he came in as a replacement for Coutts when he broke his leg. He is a completely different player to what Coutts was.

He deserves great credit for what he has done this season. It is glaringly obvious that having been told he would be staying at the Lane at the end of the last summer, he spent the summer getting himself in the best possible shape he could to give him the best chance possible of forcing himself in to the first team, and that speaks volumes

 

[Darthblade]

Our lass slagged Lunny off at first but doesn't like humble pie, so she did a banana instead. Is that ok?View attachment 61639

Now THAT …….. is a girl with untapped talent !!!

UTB & FTP

 

[Harry's Game]

Didn’t think he had it in him to be a Championship player TBH.

Wilder knew though..

 

[ChrisDysonHT]

Firmly scoffed with lashings of Hendoes from this poster.

Whereas at the beginning of the season (and last to be honest) I couldn't see the logic, CWAK have and his performances this season have been pretty fucking ace TBH. That ball yesterday for the Mousse - had Eriksen or De Bruyne played in Son or Aguero, Shearer and Linekar would have been sat naked in a hot tub last night on MotD.

Well done Lunny. Keep it up. He might be our new 'enforcer' and even 'playmaker'. The new Michael Brown?

pommpey

Couldn't agree more - wow its not often Iam wrong BUT I am totally wrong on this one. I was very impressed when Coutts fought his way into CW's team whilst on the transfer list - hard work and a great attitude pays off! But Coutts did it in L1 which was ace ..... Lundstram has done it in the PL .... he is now a £15m player and he is only 6 games in

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

Honestly watch the game back in its entirety and tell everyone you feel the same. Bar the through ball he gave it away something like 6 out of 7 times he had it, 4 under no pressure and 2 completely out of play with 2 sliced.

I really am happy he's doing a good job defensively but we can do so much better.

Who say's he has to play 90 minutes, isn't this why we have subs, so the manager can change the shape of the team if he want's to.
You can't have enough good players not in this league

 

[sitwell]

Is there some for Chris wilder too?

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

I don't need any

Me either

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

After the reaction to Paul Coutts when he first arrived at the Lane, you'd think fans would have learnt how to keep their powder dry

 

[The Crab]

I think we should all stand in the carpark with our shoes off around a big steak and kidney pie, jump in and punch each other silly, last one standing can then eat the pie.
Just a thought...

I don't like Kidney, but I'd be happy to punch one.....

 

[Champagneblade]

Yep. Me too.

We all thought he was a bit part player in the Championship and not good enough for anything higher.

Little did we know that Chris was just keeping his powder dry for the Prem!

I’m not sure even Wilder could have seen this one - bloke nit good enough for the 2018/19 season comes back for pre-season training and ends up being star man in the Prem!

Quite frankly outrageous bit of management, but plaudits must go to Lunny. Keep it up, fella!

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

I still think he poses us with a real conundrum. Lundtram has been our best midfielder this year, and I also am eating humble pie.

He is undoubtedly benefiting from the flat 3 midfield however I worry that this is to the detriment of Norwood and Fleck.

I think most of us also acknowledge we need to play with a number 10 at home. Which would mean dropping one of the 3. The conundrum then being that Lundstram has been our best midfielder, but I would argue the other 2 are more suited to the 2 man midfield. It's a really difficult one for home games. I think we have found our away set up, but we do need to change things up at home, meaning something has to give. Might seem harsh, but I'd be tempted to try (in the game after Liverpool, which doesn't count!) a 3-4-1-2 at home but with Freeman in for Lundstram. He has certainly given us an extra option we never knew we had though!

I do think the flat 3 really restricts Norwood's ability to orchestrate our play though.

Excellent explanation of the Lundstram conundrum, also known on here as the Lundstram conundram or the Lundstrum conunundrum. I wouldn't fancy trying to make that phrase plural...

 

[mancunianblade]

Ive always liked him, and could see a player there but I never expected this and I wouldn't have protested if he had been moved on in the summer. serious question though

A player that vast majority would have let go for nothing in the summer, what is his value now?

 

[Snake]

For me it's not about eating humble pie. The thing that pisses me off about some of our supporters (and I suppose every club has them) is that they go fookin crazy if player A,B or C is playing. The wrist slashing on here at 2pm when the team for Bournemouth was announced was pathetic. Like I said at the time, Chris Wilder/Alan Knill know just a tad more about footballers than we fans do.

Tufty had a dig too in his Radio Sheffield post match interview about some of the criticism Didsy has been getting lately.

All I would say is, have opinions, of course. But always remember that those opinions are based on your very limited knowledge as a football fan. Not as a coach or manager who sees the players day in, day out.

 

[sitwell]

In Roy's views one the Everton comments was a sarcastic welcome back to Everton legend John lundstram, fuck you suckers

 

[8lade]

Signed 25 Jul 17 for a reported 700k (age 23)

17/18 21 starts - 15 sub apps
18/19 5 starts - 5 as sub apps

 

[Pinchy]

He’s a good solid player but I still think Freeman should play instead of him but what the fuck do I know?

Freeman should, without a doubt, play ahead of Fleck. He is a better player and the side will be far better balanced. Two left footers in a three man midfield? No, play the better, quicker, brighter, more influential of the two, alongside Lunny and Ollie.