Kop redevelopment back on?

[Tyler Durden]

It's an unnecessary vanity project. We have the third biggest single-tiered kop in the land as it is.
Plenty of things need 'redeveloping' at United and the ground is among the least of them.

 

[judge]

Why cant we just have a giant blue rusty skip like the pigs ?

 

[s4-blade]

Who do we reckon the new statues will be of then? One's got to be woody.

 

[bornablade]

Without doing an in depth study into this opinion I think it's fair to say that whenever a club has moved stadiums there has been an upturn in fortunes for that club. A feel good factor runs through a club and it results in better performances on the pitch. I can think of Rotherham, Chesterfield, Donny, Stoke, Southampton, even Bolton. We won't be leaving BDTBL so here's the next best thing.

The Blades have tried everything to get out of this division. It was a toss up between giving Adkins a shed load of money in January or getting rid of the shed that currently resides on Shoreham Street.

This is the final throw of the dice.

 

[Blade56]

They'll be no f***ing fans to sit in them unless they pull their lazy asses together and get us out of this piss poor league.
However, if they are serious I think they will buy a new squad for next season

 

[Rodley]

McCabe can fuck off with another business centre it is a football stadium for Christ sake it should only have space for supporters, that twat would have it looking like Orient's ground if he could. Summat is afoot though as there is also a planning application in for close on 1000 solar panels to go on the kop roof.

There's no upside on the solar panels for McCabe with the exception of reducing the running costs of the club, which McCabe effectively subsidises himself. It would just constitute a significant capital expenditure to reduce ongoing costs, which are beneficial for all parties. I hate to say it but it's a good idea in principle, although questionable whether solar is the best return on that level of investment.

 

[Harry's Game]

Who do we reckon the new statues will be of then? One's got to be woody.
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Kevin McCabe has to be one of them, he's the best we've ever had.

 

[Rodley]

It's an unnecessary vanity project. We have the third biggest single-tiered kop in the land as it is.
Plenty of things need 'redeveloping' at United and the ground is among the least of them.

Literally all this is is preserving the consents we have already for nominal cost. It's good housekeeping and is advantageous even if we did something completely different in the future.

 

[Darthblade]

Who do we reckon the new statues will be of then? One's got to be woody.
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Oh excellent ....... we're moving the "statues " that currently constitute the centre of our defence and placing them outside the ground !!

Does this mean we're going to get two decent centre halves and make a serious attempt at the play-offs this season ??
UTB & FTP

 

[sothall blade]

I thought the ground was unofficially one big moaning section?

no, thats what this forum is for !

 

[diplomat]

Can I try and negotiate the sale of any items such as a proposed business centre to the McCabe family for a sum of more than a pound please?

 

[sothall blade]

Oh excellent ....... we're moving the "statues " that currently constitute the centre of our defence and placing them outside the ground !!

Does this mean we're going to get two decent centre halves and make a serious attempt at the play-offs this season ??
UTB & FTP

now now DB you should know better than that, to get 2 quality centre halves you will have to give the selling club money in return

 

[zablade]

Here's an exclusive picture of what it will all look like when Kevin McCabes master plan is complete..


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[Harry's Game]

Here's an exclusive picture of what it will all look like when Kevin McCabes master plan is complete..


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Is that Chris Porter watching from the Balcony top left?

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

There's no upside on the solar panels for McCabe with the exception of reducing the running costs of the club, which McCabe effectively subsidises himself.

Does McCabe really subsidise the running costs of the club, isn't that us (the fans) and the sale of star players. McCabe wrote the debts off when he sold 50% of club to the Pearly Prince for £1. Since then SUFC have stuck stringently to FFP rules, or so they have us believe. In that case how is McCabe bank rolling owt at the club?

 

[Leonardo Green]

Can't happen soon enough, I sit in the middle of the Kop and i get dripped on if it rains ffs.

Also fed up of having to walk through a cloud of cigarette smoke every time i need a piss

 

[Blade56]

.......... McCabe wrote the debts off when he sold 50% of club ....l

Didn't write it off just moved it elsewhere for now

 

[sothall blade]

Can't happen soon enough, I sit in the middle of the Kop and i get dripped on if it rains ffs.

Also fed up of having to walk through a cloud of cigarette smoke every time i need a piss

thought smoking were banned ? or is a case stewards could,nt give a fuck ?

 

[JohnDenver]

At least there's no mention of those nasty flats McCabe had planned.

 

[Harry's Game]

thought smoking were banned ? or is a case stewards could,nt give a fuck ?

They tried to ban it completely but some of our knuckleheads threatend the stewards who tied to enforce it so the club backed down and allowed it on the rear steps and Concourse of the Kop

 

[sothall blade]

wil be the best fuckin ground in the 3rd division

 

[sothall blade]

They tried to ban it completely but some of our knuckleheads threatend the stewards who tied to enforce it so the club backed down and allowed it on the rear steps and Concourse of the Kop

Oh ! i see, did,nt know that

 

[Leonardo Green]

At least with a proper concourse it will have to be enforced. If you can't go without a fag for an hour and a half you need to sort your life out.

 

[BushBlade]

Kevin McCabe has to be one of them, he's the best we've ever had.

They were going to do Jim but it was a bit costly so they're getting Michael Jackson from Fulham. Instead of Dan Burn.

 

[robbiez666]

It would be lovely and all to have a nice new Kop.

I'd keep the old one in exchange for getting out of this division. Thanks Jamie Murphy for funding this new development.

 

[Rodley]

Does McCabe really subsidise the running costs of the club, isn't that us (the fans) and the sale of star players. McCabe wrote the debts off when he sold 50% of club to the Pearly Prince for £1. Since then SUFC have stuck stringently to FFP rules, or so they have us believe. In that case how is McCabe bank rolling owt at the club?

It's probably for the fortnightly thread covering this and I don't have the greatest understanding of the accounts, so if you have evidence to the contrary just let me know, but my opinion is informed by:

a) Football Clubs inherently lose money as businesses
b) We have one of the biggest squads outside of the PL, with relatively little TV money.
c) Our player sales haven't been especially significant given the volume of signings we have made and the associated costs / wages they include.

I don't really want to get into a debate on this.

My principle point is that anything which reduces the operating costs of the business (such as solar panels) is advantageous. Solar panels will be a huge capital expenditure, if McCabe is funding these like the other stadium improvements then fantastic. If SUFC is, then fair enough we'll reduce our operating costs in the long term. Personally I question the efficiency of them. The complicating factor is the ownership of the ground and the rental charge and where the benefit of the reduction of operating costs goes. You'll need an accountant to comment on that as I'm not privy to the terms of the lease, although the rent appears in the accounts and is fairly nominal.

This really is a nothing story, fished out of nowhere. There's nothing suspicious or Machiavellian at play. To reiterate its just housekeeping.

 

[oaklandrdblade]

At least with a proper concourse it will have to be enforced. If you can't go without a fag for an hour and a half you need to sort your life out.

Because there's never people smoking in the bogs in other parts of the ground ;-)
Also the bloody 'vapour' from e cigs is equally objectionable to me so shouldn't they be banned?

 

[WhiteHawk]

I like it on the Kop but it's nowhere near steep enough, I can't see a bloody thing when everyone is stood up and the play is in the last 6 yards.

 

[Ben_1982]

The plans need re doing in my opinion. Completely demolishing. Flatten the mould and the pukka corner and build it all as one. Needs to be a lot steeper, more leg room etc

 

[Tezza1889]

I'm all for this, those stupid supports would be gone, sometimes as far back as row s there's rain getting you...

Only note of caution is this, if the stadium has a larger capacity, and newer stands, can the guy who rents it to us put the price up..