Knee jerk united

[Jon Bon II]

Let's see if CW actually learns from his mistakes at Derby.

Ah, you're new here, aren't you.

 

[Foxy]

My perspective: we field one of our strongest squads in weeks and get brushed aside. But I should be happy about it… apparently.

Who has been telling you that you should be happy about it?

 

[puppet]

My perspective: we field one of our strongest squads in weeks and get brushed aside. But I should be happy about it… apparently.

Hardly. we had a few back on the bench and a new £10m striker on the pitch but it was still a makeshift first XI.
After the quick reaction of substitutions at Swansea at HT, I expected the same tonight but we were still down to the bare bones. Having to move Peck to RB shows how screwed we still are atm.
McCallum was the best player in red and white tonight, it was very harsh to sacrifice him in the bid to get Sousa on the pitch imho. That said, its been a terrific season and we're still very much in there.
UTB

 

[ThatJa]

This is the little kick up the arse we've needed for a few weeks.

 

[moody1889]

Ah, you're new here, aren't you.

No I just know what stubborn arse CW can be hence why he got himself the sack last time for refusing to change even when it was behind clear it wasnt working.

 

[ThatJa]

My perspective: we field one of our strongest squads in weeks and get brushed aside. But I should be happy about it… apparently.

You can put the strongest legs you have on, if the table top if weak as shit it will just fall through anyway.

We had a strong attack, but a very weak midfield 2. That cost us the game.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Money men..come on if they'd that much money you wouldn't be getting bren back someone literally better

All I’m saying is that with more money comes more scrutiny from above.

 

[bornablade]

I thought the booing was drowned out by the sound of the amazing standing ovation for Gilchrist when he left the pitch.

 

[Houston_Blade]

No need to chuck baby out with the bath water but calling out a shit performance tonight is completely reasonable. We were crap, poor team selection, poor effort, poor tactics. Move on and hope we improve for the next one.

 

[moody1889]

You can put the strongest legs you have on, if the table top if weak as shit it will just fall through anyway.

We had a strong attack, but a very weak midfield 2. That cost us the game.

Wilder dropping Brewster who was our best player against Swansea was a poor decision and his decision to put Burrows in midfield set the tone.

 

[Nagima]

I'll add Peck isn't a midfielder either, thought process too slow, looked better at right back, not saying much after Graves Park gilchrist got subbed.

Peck is a midfielder and will grow in that role. Switching him to RB just opened a big hole in the middle of the park which they exploited and dominated the last 30 minutes.

 

[Younger Dryas Blade]

This is the little kick up the arse we've needed for a few weeks.

It's a huge kick up the ass and it wasn't needed in Wilder's mind because we have had Hamer to get us out of the shit.

Tonight no Hamer, no threat or creativity.

Wilder - tonight is on you 100% - Burrows CM after Tuesday, really

 

[Matlock Blade]

Hull also scored 3 at Elland Road. Admittedly, Leeds also scored 3.

 

[YES Blade]

Peck is a midfielder and will grow in that role. Switching him to RB just opened a big hole in the middle of the park which they exploited and dominated the last 30 minutes.

I can understand the thinking behind moving Peck to RB, Gilchrist isn’t attacking enough to take advantage of some of the positions he got into.

But I agree with you, the substitution just made things worse and we just completely lost our shape. Maybe the last 10 minutes go ultra, all out attack but not that early.

 

[Zero dark thirty]

No need to chuck baby out with the bath water but calling out a shit performance tonight is completely reasonable. We were crap, poor team selection, poor effort, poor tactics. Move on and hope we improve for the next one.

But some of you want a long term contract for wilder...why

 

[Houston_Blade]

But some of you want a long term contract for wilder...why

I don’t so I couldn’t tell you.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Yep ridiculous. We’ve only been battered by one of the worst teams in the league. Stop being negative everybody!!

In reality though we had more possession, more shots and better chances.
3-0 is a totally fluke result, they hardly created any chance, their XG tonight was only 0.46.

My issue was more about how it always looked like Hull had an extra man….every single loose ball and ricochet always seemed to go to their player.
Our midfield really struggled but it’s no surprise really with young Academy player Peck and a left back playing out of position Burrows.

Think they defended really well and deserved to win, their manager got his tactics spot on.
However we live and learn, we were still incredibly weak tonight and we’ll have much stronger fitter squad going forward.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Hull also scored 3 at Elland Road. Admittedly, Leeds also scored 3.

It wasn’t at Elland Road, it was the other week at Hull.

That day Hull created loads of chance against Leeds and deserved to win, they had 15 shots and 3 big chances with an XG was 2.35

Tonight against us, Hull hardly created anything, they had just 8 shots with 1 big chance and an XG of 0.46.
So they were incredibly lucky to score 3 goals based on chance creation.
Tonight we created the better chances, having 16 shots, 0 big chances but our XG was 1.19.

 

[Nagima]

I can understand the thinking behind moving Peck to RB, Gilchrist isn’t attacking enough to take advantage of some of the positions he got into.

But I agree with you, the substitution just made things worse and we just completely lost our shape. Maybe the last 10 minutes go ultra, all out attack but not that early.

Peck did fine there too. The Gilchrist issue is partly caused by playing our full backs as if they were wing backs and Gilchrist is not a wing back as his attacking ability isnt great. They push on up the field but leave gaps behind that Souttar and Souza covered off previously. Our CB pairing are under more pressure as they are often too far apart.

 

[Davalon]

It wasn’t at Elland Road, it was the other week at Hull.

That day Hull created loads of chance against Leeds and deserved to win, they had 15 shots and 3 big chances with an XG was 2.35

Tonight against us, Hull hardly created anything, they had just 8 shots with 1 big chance and an XG of 0.46.
So they were incredibly lucky to score 3 goals based on chance creation.
Tonight we created the better chances, having 16 shots, 0 big chances but our XG was 1.19.

Not sure what game you watched.

Hull thoroughly deserved their 3-0 win.

How many saves did the Hull keeper make?

 

[itsinyerblood]

Not sure anyone’s said don’t find it negative that we were poor and lost, just that a little perspective might be handy. I mean really, booing off at half time?

You wait until we finish 10th in the Prem, some of our fans will have fully embraced entitlement and become unbearable in the process.

 

[Sheffsteel]

It's fickle football fans. We win a match, reaction is we are going to win the league, we lose one reaction is we are going to be relegated. No one is balanced these days.

I think we battled really hard tonight. Canon got no service and we had a perfectly good equaliser disallowed.

Fair play to Hull, they defended unbelievably well and had some luck, just like we did on Tuesdays.

Onwards and upwards Blades.

Wow…some sanity……they exist.
I’ve looked on Facebook and the over reaction/ meltdown is incredible…..I shouldn’t be surprised really.
It seems like there’s a fashion to see who can be the most outragious regards comments just seeking attention.
So much hatred towards our manager and players predicting doom and gloom.

Agree we did battle well, the attitude amongst all the players is really good, which is a great start.
My issue under Hecky was we never had a functioning midfield, with Norwood in the side we over relied on his ping (long ball) to N’Diaye
And now we have Wilder we still don’t have a functioning midfield, altho the Arblaster/ Vini partnership was starting to look promising
I still think we struggle to control midfield. Altho with young Peck and young Burrows it was no surprise really.
Not sure whether it’s a fitness issue or tactical issue but Hull always looked like they had an extra man, every lose ball always went to their player.
Also it’s important to recognise that tonight was a freak result, the stats show with an XG of 0.46 they hardly created any chances, yet still scored 3 goals.
Still plenty of ground for optimism with so many injured players due to return and new players to be signed.

 

[SouthStandGBlock]

Last season there wasn't much booing, too stunned to boo, a numb paralysis feeling.

Tonight booing was justified, for Wilder more than the players and for being a numpty and playing Burrows in midfield again. It set the tone and his luck ran out.

No way, you boo your team off when you're 1-0 down at HT to a wonder strike.

Last night was poor, and by all means boo at the end to show your displeasure.having said that, the empty stands sent a message.

It was a bad day at the office, no need to tear the whole season apart.

 

[BarcaBlade]

Just an update for anyone in the, 'it's on Wilder that' camp.

Rather than bleating that on here, I sent it in an email directly to the board and they've offered me the job, thanking me for my insights.

I've told them I can play a bit and fancy myself as capable to fill in at midfield in the future so we'll be alright.

 

[Jan Age]

The fan base were divided about his return given the circumstances of his exit.

Some fans still don’t want him here, some were happy to see him back, some have been convinced , others remain on the fence.

with this in mind it’s no wonder the fan base feels disjointed, and the atmosphere is not improving. We don’t have a manager that everyone is willing to get behind and surely he must recognise this.

As for me, I’m still on the fence ‘hoping’ to be convinced but seeing a very similair pattern emerging with his previous tenure especially the last 2 years.

Although I hope I am wrong I think we will see results drop off, performances haven’t been great all season, an increasingly unhappy wilder and well know what happens then.

The new signings will only add pressure that he doesn’t like and his track record with expensive signings isn’t great.

 

[Grey Blade]

I'm relieved that I didn't see the game as I'm out of he country. It looks like I didn't miss much.
I understand fans being very disappointed with the performance but disagree with 'supporters' booing the team. I don't see how that can help motivate the team and its only a means of venting personal frustration.
I assume most of the team are trying and booing is counterproductive.
Personally I think fans overreact by being over positive in good times and the complete opposite when we play badly. Ar the moment the team is cobbled together and it's not surprising that we're struggling

 

[robbiez666]

The fan base were divided about his return given the circumstances of his exit.

Some fans still don’t want him here, some were happy to see him back, some have been convinced , others remain on the fence.

with this in mind it’s no wonder the fan base feels disjointed, and the atmosphere is not improving. We don’t have a manager that everyone is willing to get behind and surely he must recognise this.

As for me, I’m still on the fence ‘hoping’ to be convinced but seeing a very similair pattern emerging with his previous tenure especially the last 2 years.

Although I hope I am wrong I think we will see results drop off, performances haven’t been great all season, an increasingly unhappy wilder and well know what happens then.

The new signings will only add pressure that he doesn’t like and his track record with expensive signings isn’t great.

I didn't want Wilder to come back but how can anyone question how well he's done?! We're second with a threadbare squad full of injuries. Playing kids who would struggle to get a league loan.

We've been overachieving but after a few years of relative success sone of our fan base have become entitled. The fact so many expected us to get automatic promotion at the start of the season said it all.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I guess the negativity comes from the ridiculous team selection and even more bizarre in game decisions Wilder made.

Burrows in centre midfield was wrong on for so many reasons. As was playing Canon and BBD. Not sure what message it sends to Brewster that he scores in mid week then doesn't start.... He ended up playing 40 mins anyway, so the notion he needed a rest is misplaced.

Ending the match with the aforementioned Brewster in centre mid and Peck at RB was bizarre. Why have two players out of position? Pecks ball carrying is exactly what we needed if we're playing with 4 up front. The minute Peck moved from centre mid we lost all control, never kept possession and looked completely lost.

Bizarre coaching decisions tonight ....

 

[Rodley]

At least the booing indicates that some fans do actually have vocal cords and could potentially therefore give the team some backing during games before the season is out.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I'm relieved that I didn't see the game as I'm out of he country. It looks like I didn't miss much.
I understand fans being very disappointed with the performance but disagree with 'supporters' booing the team. I don't see how that can help motivate the team and its only a means of venting personal frustration.
I assume most of the team are trying and booing is counterproductive.
Personally I think fans overreact by being over positive in good times and the complete opposite when we play badly. Ar the moment the team is cobbled together and it's not surprising that we're struggling

The booing came from the fact that it was so sloppy and just piss poor. Gilchrist and Brooks down the right couldn't pass to one another without it either going out of play, or one of them letting it bounce off their shin, BBD looked like he'd spent the afternoon in the Beer Engine sampling their range of ales, C3PO had one of his nights where you knew he was going to piss down his leg, and we had probably our best player of the season in centre mid where he spent most of the first half being noticeably bollocked by Peck for being out of position and not moving enough.