July PL restarts

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Plenty of people will be fine but it's wishful thinking to suggest there won't be a big surge in mental health issues.
Sadly, you’re probably right but I suspect a lot of it will be due to anxiety about money, work and loved ones and I don’t think the football is going to be of much help in those cases.
We all want it back as soon as possible, we’re football fans, but I don’t like contrived arguments about mental health as a justification for it.
 



As I said what 's it matter if we have to wait 12 months?So much easier to postpone the start of next season than to try and scrap the 30 games of this season that have already been played.There would be so much hassle scrapping games that have been played than scrapping games that have not been played.That way no club loses anything that they have already got.

If next season is delayed/reduced that’s still billions lost in TV, sponsorship and match day revenue.

How will player’s wages be paid? Transfer fee payments? Non playing staff wages? Stadium maintenance costs? Etc etc etc.
 
Are people really that weak minded? It’s not like I’m chained to a radiator in Lebanon or in solitary on Rikers Island.
I think they are. The world is full of snowflakes, psychos, crackpots, etc. Always has been.
Fact of life I'm afraid.
 
Are people really that weak minded? It’s not like I’m chained to a radiator in Lebanon or in solitary on Rikers Island.
Well... Yes if you want to call it that. Alot of people's "triggers" are being pushed right now with the measures. The physical threat should be taking priority but the mental effect on people will be huge.

I should add football won't fix this.
 
Maybe this is just the event that will bring Players wages into line and make them realistic for once.
 
You think games can start under closed doors in July. I gave you reasons why they can't. What happens when one player gets it? What happens when clubs at the bottom say players have been displaying symptoms?

I agree on your points on the Govt and the NHS.

I saw some graphs on social distancing v figures for the virus albeit projections. If we came out if the lockdown in a month v two months or three months and the difference was astronomical and frightening in terms of people contracting the virus and deaths.

I agree that some clubs would sabotage this seaso in order to retain their place on the money go round

However. IMO. We must complete this season as soon as it is safe to do so

Delay next season for as long as it takes
Do not let cheats come out on top
We can wait until this wreched virus is brought under control
 


Sunday times claiming lockdown until June and social distancing after that into the autumn.


Sunday Times are reporting the opinion of one health minister. That's quite different. You have to keep in mind that the government are trying to keep the pressure up on us so that we behave. I don't blame them one bit. They have to keep talking up the seriousness of it and how long it might last and make everyone feel that they are doomed if they don't conform. That's the best way to get the general public to follow their advice.

In my opinion (and I'm basing that on some knowledge of the disease and rather less knowledge of politics fortunately) I think we will see a relaxation of "social distancing" rules from May onwards. Note: I didn't say a complete removal, I said, "a relaxation". And the important stats that will drive this are the number of new reported cases - which I predict will be in decline by the end of April.

If we all behave ourselves they might even open up the pubs in June.

Now, there's something to look forward to perhaps?
 
Sadly, you’re probably right but I suspect a lot of it will be due to anxiety about money, work and loved ones and I don’t think the football is going to be of much help in those cases.
We all want it back as soon as possible, we’re football fans, but I don’t like contrived arguments about mental health as a justification for it.
Sadly, you’re probably right but I suspect a lot of it will be due to anxiety about money, work and loved ones and I don’t think the football is going to be of much help in those cases.
We all want it back as soon as possible, we’re football fans, but I don’t like contrived arguments about mental health as a justification for it.
And often anxiety about money work loved ones lead to MH issues without a pandemic so for people suffering hidden and in silence before a pandemic this only compounds there pain
 
Plenty of people will be fine but it's wishful thinking to suggest there won't be a big surge in mental health issues.
Absolutely right. It's already happening. There's nothing new or surprising about that. When the economy is in meltdown and people aren't working or even allowed to socialise as they would do normally it has a massive impact on mental health. And for those already being treated for mental health issues, like anxiety and depression, this is making matters worse.

I also understand there's a big surge in people filing for divorce. I like to think that's a good thing - and I know that may sound very harsh, but I don't mean it to be. I just think that some (possibly "many"?) couples co-habit under the same roof for years, living separate lives. They aren't happy with each other, but it's a convenient arrangement and the alternative seems far worse than just carrying on.

All this "social distancing" stuff puts a lot of pressure on relationships like that, where they can no longer slope off to the pub out of the way, or even go out of the house for any length of time. They are incarcerated in a life they normally manage to avoid, and things are expected of them, like doing their fair share of household chores and looking after the kids. Most of all, they are with their other half for large amounts of time, something they may not have done for years. That creates a lot of pressure in a relationship. And the reason I say, I like to think it's a good thing, if it leads to filing for a divorce, is not because I think divorce is a good thing. Thankfully I've never been through it myself and have no desire to, whatsoever. But I do think it's a very bad thing if you waste your life doing something that doesn't make you happy, or spending it with someone who doesn't make you happy. So, this period that we are going through may just test a few relationships and force people to either make more of an effort with each other, or take a decision for themselves which will ultimately lead to them both being happier.
 
Sadly, you’re probably right but I suspect a lot of it will be due to anxiety about money, work and loved ones and I don’t think the football is going to be of much help in those cases.
We all want it back as soon as possible, we’re football fans, but I don’t like contrived arguments about mental health as a justification for it.

Agreed on that score entirely.
 
Belarus football is still going on....

Not the smartest gaffer about that fella in Minsk!

And the Leader of Turkmenistan is arresting people who even mention Coronavirus, despite the country bordering Iran. He does torture a lot of people though so he’s probably got his hands full.
 



If next season is delayed/reduced that’s still billions lost in TV, sponsorship and match day revenue.

How will player’s wages be paid? Transfer fee payments? Non playing staff wages? Stadium maintenance costs? Etc etc etc.
I think what ever way they go it is going to cost.Time is time weather they lose it this season or next.I think there would be so much hassle to scrap 30 games that have already been played and lose the remaining ten games compared to losing games next season that have not been played.I think it would be better to complete and easier what is nearly done .Having said that no body knows what is ahead and how long it will take to eradicate this virus.No good crossing bridges until we get to them,we just have to wait and then decide.
 
Wimbledon now cancelled, as more and more sport falls null and voiding becomes ever more likely I’m afraid.
 

That’s the first time I’ve seen the suggestion that the seasons could resume at the stage the next seasons would normally start. Which got me thinking about this possible solution.

1. Finish the current season in July/August

2. Breaks/transfer window during Sep/Oct

3. Nov-May: a one off season, where each English league is split in two based on final table from previous season. The PL top 10 would play home & way (19 games) to decide the euro places, bottom 10 the same to work out the relegated teams, and so on.

4. Divisions merged back for 2021/22 season.

A bit like what happened (might still happen) in Scotland when the divisions would split midway through.
 
Honestly I think the simplest and fairest thing to do is cancel 2020/21 and turn this into 2019/21 across all European leagues. Try and resume football, hopefully with fans, in September. Pad out the games with plenty of rest weeks, taking us into Jan. Then do the same with cup comps to take us into March. Then March/April to May to finish the Champions League and Europa League. We have Euro 2021 in June, and then things get back to normal in August with the start of the 2021/22 season. Provided no second outbreak, of course.
 
That’s the first time I’ve seen the suggestion that the seasons could resume at the stage the next seasons would normally start. Which got me thinking about this possible solution.

1. Finish the current season in July/August

2. Breaks/transfer window during Sep/Oct

3. Nov-May: a one off season, where each English league is split in two based on final table from previous season. The PL top 10 would play home & way (19 games) to decide the euro places, bottom 10 the same to work out the relegated teams, and so on.

4. Divisions merged back for 2021/22 season.

A bit like what happened (might still happen) in Scotland when the divisions would split midway through.

Finally, someone has come round to my way of thinking:-

Rather than ruining this season, I would suggest suspending this season and playing the final 10 games in August (or as soon as possible).

Then make next season a half-season with only 18 matches. Split each division in two with the top ten playing each other home and away and the bottom ten likewise.

Repeat the process in every league and back to normal in August 2021.

It’s looking more likely than when I originally posted it on March 12th
 
Hadn’t seen that, but agreed! Plus, yours is the better suggestion because you’ve been able to unlike myself multiply 9 by 2.

It seems to me such a fair and viable solution, I can’t believe that nobody in a position of influence has mentioned it. Yet...
 
That’s the first time I’ve seen the suggestion that the seasons could resume at the stage the next seasons would normally start. Which got me thinking about this possible solution.

1. Finish the current season in July/August

2. Breaks/transfer window during Sep/Oct

3. Nov-May: a one off season, where each English league is split in two based on final table from previous season. The PL top 10 would play home & way (19 games) to decide the euro places, bottom 10 the same to work out the relegated teams, and so on.

4. Divisions merged back for 2021/22 season.

A bit like what happened (might still happen) in Scotland when the divisions would split midway through.
No need to do any of that just finish this season when possible and next season to start after a short break.
No complications just work it through ,things would get back to normal pretty quickly.
Agreements would have to be made regarding transfer window and contracts! that shouldnt really be a problem if they all work together.
 
The Belgian league has just decided to end the season. Club Brugge champs. Seems they’ll be voting on what do do with regards relegation, but it seems they will scrap relegation and allow 2 clubs to be promoted.

Mad when you consider they only had one game left in their season.
 

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