John Swift

[iBlade.]

Window opens 27th - So Monday.

 

[saw516]

Has the window officially opened yet?

Dose this even matter this year? doesn't seem to have stopped Chelsea.

 

[Dublinblade]

Doesnt matter any year you can sign an agreement in principle with a club and player at any time of day or night 365 days a year. You cant formally complete the transfer until the window begins however but you can effectively have the signing done and dusted.

 

[Guesty]

Not intentionally trying to be pedantic here, but can you to name me just one competent 2 footed player, bar greenwood at Man Utd?

Historically the best ever has to be Andreas Brehme. He has scored important World Cup penalties (one in a Semi Final, I think, the other definitely in the 1990 final) with either foot.

The only comparable player I can think of is that Moravcik who played for Celtic. He seemed completely ambidextrous, or whatever the foot equivalent is.

 

[Roygbiv]

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leonHob Nob Super-Addict Posts: 13617Joined: 14 Apr 2004 09:18Location: Hips, Lips, Tits, Power
Re: Swift to... Southampton
by leon » 22 Jul 2020 12:45



Especially to a shit club like Sheffield Utd. Lose their manager and they'll be in the Championship before you know it.

Haha!
Is Reading 'twinned with Hillsborough' or something? I always think of them as being the southern equivalent of Barnsley.
UTB

His main aim will to be leave Reading. Going to a Premier League club means he can put himself in the shop window so good performances mean he will be a permanent Premier League player for years to come even if the club he was at went down.

His main aim though will to be leave Reading. Like all their players.

 

[Chabuddy G]

His main aim will to be leave Reading. Going to a Premier League club means he can put himself in the shop window so good performances mean he will be a permanent Premier League player for years to come even if the club he was at went down.

His main aim though will to be leave Reading. Like all their players.

And who can blame him?

 

[Reedy1889]

A reporter on twitter who does all things Reading F.C has done a q&a today for their fans on the local papers website and in amongst he mentions Swift to us is 'virtually done' as far as he understands.

Hope this is to be the case, looks a really good player and his stats back that up.


Joe asks: “Swift update?”

He’ll be one of the players at risk of going this summer, I have no doubt.
Seen a few other clubs may be in for him but the Sheff Utd deal is virtually done from what I understand.
Guess it’s up to the player to assess his options.

 

[jt64]

Dose this even matter this year? doesn't seem to have stopped Chelsea.

You can agree a deal whenever you want, you just can't actually transfer the registration until the window is open

 

[BerksBlade]

A reporter on twitter who does all things Reading F.C has done a q&a today for their fans on the local papers website and in amongst he mentions Swift to us is 'virtually done' as far as he understands.

Hope this is to be the case, looks a really good player and his stats back that up.


Joe asks: “Swift update?”

Unless it gets hijacked by Villa at the last minute ....

 

[Bladezz]

Unless it gets hijacked by Villa at the last minute ....

Think signing for Villa is always a risk as they’ll just keep buying more and more players.

 

[8lade]

Needs to look for his pass earlier before he gets desperate to offload the ball, I'm sure our coaches can do something with him.

 

[Booker4]

Think signing for Villa is always a risk as they’ll just keep buying more and more players.

Villa look like staying up now and even if Grealish does go, it just doesn't seem their style to sign someone for £3.5m! I can see them more likely to sign Benrahma for £25m! I think Swift may have been with Brentford though when Dean Smith was there, maybe that's the link to this.

 

[mcbladeface]

Over on Villa Talk the opinion among some of them is Swift is someone they'll be going for if they go down whereas if they stay up, they'll be splashing the cash again. One had a shopping list that added up to 140 million again!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Over on Villa Talk the opinion among some of them is Swift is someone they'll be going for if they go down whereas if they stay up, they'll be splashing the cash again. One had a shopping list that added up to 140 million again!

It would probably keep them up this time.
Not sure even Villa can spunk £300 million over two seasons and still be in the bottom 3 again, especially if they somehow keep Grealish.

 

[Booker4]

Over on Villa Talk the opinion among some of them is Swift is someone they'll be going for if they go down whereas if they stay up, they'll be splashing the cash again. One had a shopping list that added up to 140 million again!

And if they do go down then Swift would likely chose us anyway, so I think on this occasion w may actually sign a player that was also linked with Villa!

 

[Bladezz]

And if they do go down then Swift would likely chose us anyway, so I think on this occasion w may actually sign a player that was also linked with Villa!

Villa can just offer an extra £10k

 

[Blade56]

Think signing for Villa is always a risk as they’ll just keep buying more and more players.

Leeds will be checking all our signings next season.

And if they do go down then Swift would likely chose us anyway, so I think on this occasion w may actually sign a player that was also linked with Villa!

Is that our lack of ambition that “maybe good“ L1 players would pick us over ambitious clubs cause they’ll get a game? McBurnie isn’t and never will be world class and he was a “maybe a good player”. We should set our sights higher. My big concern is as much as I admire and respect Wilder can he step up to the next level to get us into top 8 every season with world class players Instead of grafters? Berge is the man to build around with better players than we have been used to but one swallow does not a summer make! We need to up our quality or expect to be around the bottom 6 season after season.

Villa can just offer an extra £10k /week.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Bladezz]

Leeds will be checking all our signings next season.



Is that our lack of ambition that “maybe good“ L1 players would pick us over ambitious clubs cause they’ll get a game? McBurnie isn’t and never will be world class and he was a “maybe a good player”. We should set our sights higher. My big concern is as much as I admire and respect Wilder can he step up to the next level to get us into top 8 every season with world class players Instead of grafters? Berge is the man to build around with better players than we have been used to but one swallow does not a summer make! We need to up our quality or expect to be around the bottom 6 season after season.

Fixed it for you.

We should set our sights higher than Mcburnie. I decided I didn’t want to read anymore of your posts.

 

[Blade56]

We should set our sights higher than Mcburnie. I decided I didn’t want to read anymore of your posts.

If McBurnie is your idea of our future I suggest you’ve made a good decision to not read my posts

 

[Keen Blade]

"We need to up our quality or expect to be around the bottom 6 season after season".

We have by far the least wealthy owners in the PL and by far the lowest wage bill.
Where is the £ to improve our quality ?

It must be recognised that this season has been an 'overachiement' , to quote CW.

The reality is that our "expected" position is bottom six.
We'll be fighting for survival and trying to make incremental improvements in quality as funds permit.
The transition from "bottom six" to "established mid-table" will take a few seasons yet.

That said , this season has been brilliant and much credit is deserved.

 

[BanderSerge]

Villa look like staying up now and even if Grealish does go, it just doesn't seem their style to sign someone for £3.5m! I can see them more likely to sign Benrahma for £25m! I think Swift may have been with Brentford though when Dean Smith was there, maybe that's the link to this.

Villa plan to swoop for benrahma if they stay up. Hoping to get £80m for grealish and sign benrahma as a like for like while pocketing £50m. If they succeed, I don’t think they will be worse off. Only obstacle is if Lampard follows his interest up, and I think he will because A/ After his spell in the championship last year. B/ He’s a very level headed bloke, despite his succes. Snobbery is not part of his makeup. A lot will depend on wether benrahma wants to chase the £, or play more regularly.

 

[Booker4]

If McBurnie is your idea of our future I suggest you’ve made a good decision to not read my posts

McBurnie is our future Blade56, whether you like it or not! He cost us £17m or so and he's only 24, so there's no way we'll not be playing him and he's improved as the season has gone on, I actually think he's going to be immense for us in the role he plays a hold up man and, good in the air and can run with the ball, holding off opposition players.

When you say he's not world class, you don't often get world class for £17m! Nor have we ever had a world class player in my time following United, maybe Currie was, but he only played 17 time for England so that would suggest, as good as he was, that he wasn't world class.

We haven;t got the youth system to produce world class players either, even if we had the best facilities in the land, young players will always prefer Man U, etc.. So we will be bringing in players that are good Pl players, that's what McBurnie will be in my view, for now he's still finding his feet but as I say he's improving all the time in my view.

 

[Blade56]

McBurnie is our future Blade56, whether you like it or not! He cost us £17m or so and he's only 24, so there's no way we'll not be playing him and he's improved as the season has gone on, I actually think he's going to be immense for us in the role he plays a hold up man and, good in the air and can run with the ball, holding off opposition players.

When you say he's not world class, you don't often get world class for £17m! Nor have we ever had a world class player in my time following United, maybe Currie was, but he only played 17 time for England so that would suggest, as good as he was, that he wasn't world class.

We haven;t got the youth system to produce world class players either, even if we had the best facilities in the land, young players will always prefer Man U, etc.. So we will be bringing in players that are good Pl players, that's what McBurnie will be in my view, for now he's still finding his feet but as I say he's improving all the time in my view.

I get where you’re coming from I’m just fed up with 60 years of being the budget and bargain basement club. Even when we got Sabella it was to compensate for letting the better Argentinian players go to Spurs, we could have had Maradona or Robbie Keane (Considered to expensive at £500k from recollection).
I just want us to take the opportunity for once, yes it’s a risk and Wilder is unproven at buying / managing big names but it’ll be the last chance I’ll probably get to see us take the leap of faith (with someone else’s money).

 

[Grizzly blade]

But we don’t have the money to spend like that?
Yes, it would be nice to compete with the bigger clubs but we can’t.
I may say something controversial here, but when we came up to this league our first 11 could compete but the rest were simply not good enough. We had to improve the whole squad.
Sadly, some of those may not have improved it sufficiently, and the few brought in to improve the 11 are still to really have a major and consistent impact.
So we are faced with having to re-do some of the work we undertook last season in both filling out the squad and looking to improve the 11.

IMHO, if we can keep the back line as it was, somehow get Hendo back, we can then concentrate on improving attacking threat (shooting from distance and creativity) In midfield by adding a player who can do what Fleck does on the right. (One new player)

Then concentrate on finding a consistent Mousset style player and a replacement for Sharp.

If we are looking at that we will be somewhere north of £20m.

We then need to replace those on the way out of the squad.

 

[Booker4]

I get where you’re coming from I’m just fed up with 60 years of being the budget and bargain basement club. Even when we got Sabella it was to compensate for letting the better Argentinian players go to Spurs, we could have had Maradona or Robbie Keane (Considered to expensive at £500k from recollection).
I just want us to take the opportunity for once, yes it’s a risk and Wilder is unproven at buying / managing big names but it’ll be the last chance I’ll probably get to see us take the leap of faith (with someone else’s money).

I get you perspective also mate, but we have seen us spend big this season, on a level I've never known - McBurnie and Berge stand out for big fees. I started supporting United in the late 80's, early 90's and we were paupers to both Leeds and Wednesday, the latter was particularly hard to take as we signing players for a few hundred grand if we were lucky, but Wednesday spending ironically led to their downfall when they got relegated years later. Times have changed now, but I wouldn't want us to see is go down the Villa route, and I would expect that Leeds will probably spend £80m plus also this summer, and there's no guarantees that's going to work - I hope t doesn't! ;-)

That's why I'm more than happy with us signing a player like John Swift for a few million, not saying you're not either. We've generally had to make average players into good ones and I actually love seeing the likes of Fleck and O'Connell from League One play as well as they have. I'd love us to sign Benrahma from Brentford as an example,; we needed to do that last summer if we were going to do that, and presumably we needed more players up top than an attacking mid. I really wanted Maupay as well as McBurnie, but we probably couldn't afford both.

I think with the corona situation, we can expect a modest summer spend, but there's still good players we can get which will improve us, even within our budget. They may need a season to develop and we'll need to be patient maybe, more than we'd like, but I'm OK with that as the club is going in the right direction - big style.

As for Maradonna, we'd have probably sold him after half a season for only twice than what we paid for!

 

[Booker4]

Back to John Swift and I'm a tad disappointed none of the media guys asked the obvious question on John Swift to us, but it seems VAR questions were more of the theme - something we can't do anything about!

I see John Swift has been awarded the Director's player of the season! Never heard of a club doing that role, but that bodes well if he signs.

 

[Brownieblade]

Have they retired his shirt yet because he is on his way if they have lol

 

[Bladezz]

Back to John Swift and I'm a tad disappointed none of the media guys asked the obvious question on John Swift to us, but it seems VAR questions were more of the theme - something we can't do anything about!

I see John Swift has been awarded the Director's player of the season! Never heard of a club doing that role, but that bodes well if he signs.

I always think CW goes off camera and explains what’s going on Behind the scenes and tells them info so they are ready to break the story and hint at it etc. Without having news conferences of CW saying stop asking

 

[Booker4]

I always think CW goes off camera and explains what’s going on Behind the scenes and tells them info so they are ready to break the story and hint at it etc. Without having news conferences of CW saying stop asking

I thought that might be the case surely, certainly to Radio Sheffield. Guess the national papers are more interested in VAR and maybe a headline from that.

 

[8lade]

So we are faced with having to re-do some of the work we undertook last season in both filling out the squad and looking to improve the 11.

I'd agree with this but I'd also say that it's probably factored in, nobody has a 100% success rate with transfers. I wasn't thrilled with who we signed last season but most of them have done ok.