John Egan

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If we were offered £15m it would make sound business sense to offload him and play Bash, Anel and RND. We then have JLT and Clark as back up.
We then bring in a young centre half either on loan or ideally on a permanent. Who, I don’t know but there must be a player in the premiership who is not getting game time as he is currently not good enough for a premiership first team but could be Good enough for a championship team. These players do exist, JOC and Egan are two examples.
Yes it is a bit of a risk, but Egan has his limitations, is getting towards the end of his contract, is one of the highest paid at the club and is not getting any younger. Do we replace him now for good money or wait until his contract is run down and receive very little?
 
His concentration has been off the last few weeks, I wonder if this is why
We’ve conceded 5 in 7 league games. In what way has his concentration been off? Yes he’s prone to the odd gaff but so are all our defenders. If he wasn’t he would have ended up stay in the prem after we were relegated
 
I assume you're talking about when he misplaced a pass in each of those games, which doesn't constitute a lack of concentration.
Well more big mistakes then.

Gifted Lolley the ball being casual which led to Johnson's goal in the play offs.

Sloppy short pass to midfield which led to the Gooch goal.

Then last night a careless pass which should have been a Reading goal if it weren't for a last ditch tackle. (Baldock or RND cant remember who)

That being said I am an Egan fan but you can't worry he has a big fuck up in him.
 
Yep 100%. I never expected RND to be so good at LCB. Clark will struggle to get back in now

The better the current starting 11 do for now the more time it gives the injured lads to get back to fitness.

The World Cup break might actually benefit us.
 
Well more big mistakes then.

Gifted Lolley the ball being casual which led to Johnson's goal in the play offs.

Sloppy short pass to midfield which led to the Gooch goal.

Then last night a careless pass which should have been a Reading goal if it weren't for a last ditch tackle. (Baldock or RND cant remember who)

That being said I am an Egan fan but you can't worry he has a big fuck up in him.

The Johnson goal wasn't in the last few weeks 🤣

All players misplace passes. It gets noticed more in Egan's position. It doesn't mean he wants to leave.
 
I must admit some of the comments surprise me a little. Of course he has made mistakes and he can be found wanting with a ball over the top if he’s left exposed against a quick forward. However, at this stage of the window we would find it extremely hard to replace him and no one in our squad would replace him to anything like the same quality, not to mention we have 2 of our centre backs currently out injured. We’d run the risk of being very exposed if he left.

Egan is underrated, IMO. He doesn’t catch the eye in the same way Anel has, but he’s not there to do that role. He’s our captain, he never misses a game and his big mistakes are infrequent. He’s a 7/10 most weeks and doesn’t drop below it that often. There is a lot to be said for a consistent player who turns out week after week after week.
 
We’ve conceded 5 in 7 league games. In what way has his concentration been off? Yes he’s prone to the odd gaff but so are all our defenders. If he wasn’t he would have ended up stay in the prem after we were relegated
I’ve realised my levels of expectations for the blades players has been way to high. I think it started when I began watching more top end premier league football and without really knowing I started expecting that level of performance from our players. Bloody stupid and I’m a lot happier watching them since realised and I pulled my expectations back.
 
If I’m United, I’m speed dialling West Ham and saying £10m please. Then snatch their hand off, take off the mask, and go and get Nat Phillips on loan.

if we get a great offer and can sort a replacement then it’s a no brainer
RE 'Egans not that good' ??? How many clean sheets we had last season and most games Wes never had to get out of his deckchair. Egan is the best CH we had for a long long time and I include Maguire and Morgan. be carefull what you wish for
 
Probably best to keep the side in tact at the moment I would have thought. It would take a ridiculous offer at this stage to persuade me to sell anyone that a first team regular, especially when there's not a like-for-like replacement or very capable deputy already in the squad and fit/able to play For me, that would mean Fotheringham, Baldock, Egan, Norwood, McBurnie (and possibly RND) should be unsellable unless (i) the offer is just too good to turn down and (ii) a replacement is able to brought in by cob tomorrow.
 
Can’t see it. We would want at least £15m. Egan is replaceable though
 
Playing every minute of the last 70 odd games means you are going to make a mistake somewhere along the line. Egan is no Claude Davis bomb-scare defender but he can play the odd sloppy pass, get caught with a ball over the top and does look as though he has lost a bit of pace but he is part of our spine so letting him go would be a huge risk and could possibly unsettle what is a solid defence.

That said, if the money is right and we can bring someone in quickly I can see him going...we must have a replacement though as I can't see bash or Clark filling the role and definitely not Anel as he is too much of an attacking threat.
 

We’ve conceded 5 in 7 league games. In what way has his concentration been off?
This x1000.

Since we went back to 3 CBs we've had one of the best defences in the division and I'd put my mortgage on that being the case again this season. But some of our fans think the mainstay of that defence, the bloke who marshals them as a unit, and our vice-captain isn't very good. Baffling.
 
I always think Egan has that potential to play a howler at moments in the match and does at times. Anel proving fantastic already and if the money is right, I'd take a decent offer and utilise Bash until January at least.
Basham whilst a fantastic servant to the club,is not a good centre half. If we go with your suggestion forget promotion.
 
You’d hope we wouldn’t sell him.

Ideal for the role in the middle of our 3 and dependable year after year. Don’t think we have anyone else for and available to play the role atm.
 
This would be like when you are playing Pontoon.
You are on fifteen.
You twist and get a seven.
 
This x1000.

Since we went back to 3 CBs we've had one of the best defences in the division and I'd put my mortgage on that being the case again this season. But some of our fans think the mainstay of that defence, the bloke who marshals them as a unit, and our vice-captain isn't very good. Baffling.
Not really. Weird obsession on this forum that if a BLADE supporter picks a negative or any criticism of a player it means they think he's shit? Fact is, Egan is a decent defender with the odd fuck up in there.
 
Not really. Weird obsession on this forum that if a BLADE supporter picks a negative or any criticism of a player it means they think he's shit? Fact is, Egan is a decent defender with the odd fuck up in there.
I think it’s baffling that our fans would regard Egan as anything other than a very good defender at this level. Happy to debate that further, if you wish.

I’ve got no problem with fans criticizing our players. But if you express your opinion in a public forum like this and people disagree, they will say so. If you don’t like debate you’re in the wrong place.
 
Not really. Weird obsession on this forum that if a BLADE supporter picks a negative or any criticism of a player it means they think he's shit? Fact is, Egan is a decent defender with the odd fuck up in there.

I don’t think there’s an issue with fans criticising players. The issue is when that criticism isn’t supported by a well-reasoned argument.
 
I can't see anything happening with this rumour, there may be interest from Leeds but I can't see United selling our captain and a mainstay in the team on transfer deadline day. He may not be quite as good as two/three years ago, although that's debateable, but to sell him now is a massive risk even for big money and it would have to be £10m plus I'd imagine for the club to consider it and will Leeds pay that, doubt it.

You've got to consider how easy it would be to get a replacement too. Yes Ciaran Clark could play there but we'll need another to offer cover there and of course Clark was brought in to play LCB, although RND's form may mean he's out of the team for the feasible. I still would want another to be signed, and I wouldn't want a young 18 - 21 year old with less than 50 games to replace Egan. You'd be looking for a similar type in experience terms to when we signed Carl Tiler and I doubt we'd be able to get a similar type now from the PL at this late stage and I would think it would be very hard to sign a decent player from another Championship team because no one will want to let a decent player go now, especially to a divisional rival. A replacement now would probably be a loan from a PL team and despite what I've just said Ethan Ampadu would probably be a good option, he's played a few games now but I'd till rather keep Egan; we don't need the money either. Another option (tin hat) would be Michael Hector on a free but he'd need a few weeks to get up to speed. Another off the top of my head is Mads Sorensen from Brentford who at 23 has played a few games for them in the Championship, he is their third choice centre back.

Ultimately it just seems that selling now would be a huge risk, unless there's some minimum fee release clause in Egan's contract then I'd be keeping Egan, I think he's a huge player for us and a big reason the defence is doing well.
 
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I don’t think there’s an issue with fans criticising players. The issue is when that criticism isn’t supported by a well-reasoned argument.
Or, worse, people over-generalize. Take Ciaran Clark: after watching him for 60 minutes, some people decided he was shit. Not that he'd had a poor performance and needed to improve, but that he was shit, not good enough, Newcastle had had our pants down, etc. Lo and behold, he turns in a good performance on his next appearance and those people look a bit silly. Now, maybe it's not particularly big and clever to tease those people about their overreactions, bad predictions, etc, but this is a football forum, it's a bit rough and tumble at times and if you make a mug of yourself people will call you on it. Don't rush to unwarranted conclusions and it won't happen!
 

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