CONFIRMED Jamie Murphy sold to Brighton & Hove Albion

[Lane Ender]

It's not negative, it's realism. And if you trawl through the forum, this is exactly what I was staying in August last season. It's clough's fault he brought in the players, yes. However, our squad is literally nowhere near the quality required to win the league. As I say, all you need to do is compare our first 11 against Bristol City's last year to know how far behind we are. We didn't have a single player in the team of the year.

I'm absolutely delighted we have Adkins, and an optimistic, not because he will improve our players but that he will bring in a better quality of player to allow us to win promotion. You are deluding yourself if you think any of our 11 (with the possible exception of Murphy, hence my original post) would get into Bristol City's team last season.

Fans need to be creful not to compare our players to last season, but to the WINNERS of the division in the past few seasons. Whilst I agree some of the players you mention are GOOD league 1 players, they are not the BEST and therein lies the difference for me.

Bristol wasn't that good we walked straight through them at their place and next season will prove me right when they come straight back down.
Most of their side consisted of championship rejects and if they don't invest dramatically it will be embarrassing for them.
Adkins will instil an attack minded squad this season and the players I have mentioned will flourish under this manager

 

[Captain Haddock]

Evenin' boys.

Firstly unlucky on last season. Thought you'd make it up but reckon Thunderbird will do the biz for you next season. What's your take on his predecessor Clough's departure?

Secondly it looks like we are interested in your man Murphy. Already read your comments. He sounds decent. Reckon we'll end up doing a deal involving CoG?? Think we'd like to keep CoG but could see him forming part of a deal. He's more settled than before but the goals still haven't come. Have met him at an event and he's a good fella.

Fulwood: we are definitely not skint and last season was a disaster we've already started to rectify, so we won't go down. Been top half three previous seasons but with gradually weaker squad. Our boss Tony Bloom is a very wealthy Brighton fan and we have some of the cash from sales of Ulloa, Buckley, Bridcutt and Ashley Barnes in the bank plus we've bagged a reported £2m from Leicester and Sunderland surviving the drop. He intends to make amends for a lack of spending. We also have large revenue streams from season tickets and other income to top up funds. We are also FFP compliant. We've had a bid of £1.4m accepted for a player same day as Murphy rumour.

Anyway, how do you guys think you'll do this coming season? You've done your time and some....you deserve a break.

 

[Captain Haddock]

£1m Bid hahahahahhaha treble it and it might be worth a consideration for a split second, think this is a bit of creative journalism. Why would anyone want to go to Brighton as well ? A serious bid from one of the higher placed Championship clubs would though show us just how serious the board are about getting out of league one. We have no need to sell and Murphy has just extended his contract ................ mind you we had no reason to sell Maguire Having said that I think there is more chance of us starting the 16-17 season in the championship than Brighton, I think it would be a backwards step for Murphy to go there.

Don't agree for reasons stated above. Why a backward step? We have a top half budget, amongst biggest crowds in the division - THE biggest in 2012-14 - world class training facility and an ambitious chairman (owner).

 

[davidpinder]

Contracts mean nothing these days. When was the last time we didn't sell one of our best players in his prime? Genuine question.........

If players want to leave then yes you can't stop them but I see no reason why Murphy would now want to leave when he didn't in January.

 

[Kian_barlow00]

By far our best player last season, I can see why championship teams are after him. If we can keep hold of him for another season he can produce quality moments like the goal against gillingham

 

[blader]

Bristol wasn't that good

Well, then that's the end of our debate. Bristol City finished nearly 30 points ahead of us, so if they 'weren't that good' that tells you all you need to know about our squad last season. I admire the optimism, but I'm afraid it is sadly misplaced.

 

[metalblade]

Don't agree for reasons stated above. Why a backward step? We have a top half budget, amongst biggest crowds in the division - THE biggest in 2012-14 - world class training facility and an ambitious chairman (owner).

Quite simply if Rotherham had not suffered a points deduction and Blackpool had have been anything resembling a football club B&HA would not be in the Championship. I think you can count yourselves rather fortunate that there was only ever two relegation spots up for grabs. Attendances and facilities don't mean a lot ours are good enough for a Premiership club too but look where we are. In Reality the clubs are only eight league positions different, hardly worth uprooting your new family and moving a few hundred miles further away from your homeland for (no disrespect to) Brighton.

 

[Lane Ender]

Even you must admit our poor performances were down to Cloughs tactics , team selections blah blah that's gone.
However he did leave some good players and with half a dozen additions in positions already debated we will be a force this season.
I don't think that's being deluded.
If you aren't a wee bit exited at the prospect of next season , well

 

[Gavlar]

If players want to leave then yes you can't stop them but I see no reason why Murphy would now want to leave when he didn't in January.

Cos we didn't get promoted?

 

[Ben_1982]

It's quite simple, Murph and his very young family will not want to move to Brighton. They'd be so far away fr their support unit of family it just wouldn't work, that and that fact he doesn't want tho leave

 

[Blade58]

It's quite simple, Murph and his very young family will not want to move to Brighton. They'd be so far away fr their support unit of family it just wouldn't work, that and that fact he doesn't want tho leave

Is it that simple?

A couple of grand a week extra and an opportunity to play at a higher level now, rather than 'perhaps' in a years time might suggest otherwise?

 

[ZoneManWilf]

I like Jamie Murphy but if we can get somewhere in the region of £1.5m for him we should take it and reinvest in a couple of quality players for this level.

Jamie is very good at what he does and will probably be a reasonable Championship player but nothing more for me. Happy if he stays, not too disheartened if he goes and we reinvest well.

No we shouldn't, we need to keep our best players, and Murphy is for me our very best player.

Same logic as the Harry Maguire situation, yes we got some money, but then watched our defence crumbling to dust last season.

 

[Ben_1982]

Not everyone is money orientated. We could quite easily be swapping divisions next season. And as mentioned, who says he's good enough for the championship

 

[Blade58]

Not everyone is money orientated. We could quite easily be swapping divisions next season. And as mentioned, who says he's good enough for the championship

Possibly, Brighton, Brizzle and whoever else may be interested in him

Of course not everyone is money orientated but by the same token, not everyone isn't and furthermore, we could quite easily not be swapping positions next season

Players have short careers and will do what's best for themselves and their families. Money's a good reason to up sticks, add playing at a higher level and I don't think it's cut and dried.

Personally, on his day Murphy can give opposition teams a problem whichever division he plays in. However, his form the last couple of months of the season was IMO average at best.

If he doesn't want to be at the Lane and we can get get a good fee for him then he can go for me.

Time will tell, but as with HM, once players heads are turned it can be difficult.

 

[davidpinder]

Cos we didn't get promoted?

Come on we were hardly looking like getting promoted when he signed the deal.

 

[wizadry]

We have to keep our best players, getting rid of our best players is what's kept us in this division for a lot longer than we hoped for. If Murphy goes he will be hard to replace for a player with his talents in this league. We already desperately need players who are going to assist goals and score a few, Murphy is one of these and getting rid would mean we need yet another and who are we going to find good enough and who wants to play in league one? Getting rid of Murphy would set us back yet a fucking gain, lets keep him please.

 

[Gavlar]

Come on we were hardly looking like getting promoted when he signed the deal.

Not for autos, but in and around the playoffs with half a season to go? Could have got promoted.

 

[Gavlar]

No we shouldn't, we need to keep our best players, and Murphy is for me our very best player.

Same logic as the Harry Maguire situation, yes we got some money, but then watched our defence crumbling to dust last season.

Spot on. The longer we carry on being a selling club, the further we'll keep falling.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Spot on. The longer we carry on being a selling club, the further we'll keep falling.

Unfortunately we have to be a selling club . We are in league 1 . Its all about balancing the books and squad . If done with some thought , care and attention , it can work out , without a detrimental affect to the team .Every player has a price .

Also look at Southampton . Its how we man manage the situation . The problem we have got , is history tells us , we always get it wrong.

UTRB

 

[Blade58]

If a player makes it clear he doesn't want to play for our club and I'm not suggesting this is the case with Murphy, then get shut

I'm only interested in players that want to be here and that will run through brick walls for the club

 

[Gavlar]

Unfortunately we have to be a selling club . We are in league 1 . Its all about balancing the books and squad . If done with some thought , care and attention , it can work out , without a detrimental affect to the team .Every player has a price .

Also look at Southampton . Its how we man manage the situation . The problem we have got , is history tells us , we always get it wrong.

UTRB

I don't accept that we have to be a selling club. Its time clubs started to take the power back from the players.

If a player is contracted to the club and the club don't financially need to sell them, then they shouldn't sell.

If a player refuses to play you fine him and stick him in the reserves. He is in breach of contract and will soon realise that its better to play for a club than waste part of his short career.

I realise this falls under ideal world utopia as things stand, but clubs still have a choice about the assets they have and done have to sell regardless of what div they are in.

 

[Captain Haddock]

Quite simply if Rotherham had not suffered a points deduction and Blackpool had have been anything resembling a football club B&HA would not be in the Championship. I think you can count yourselves rather fortunate that there was only ever two relegation spots up for grabs. Attendances and facilities don't mean a lot ours are good enough for a Premiership club too but look where we are. In Reality the clubs are only eight league positions different, hardly worth uprooting your new family and moving a few hundred miles further away from your homeland for (no disrespect to) Brighton.

Yeah we had a bad one last year but don't think we'll be anywhere near that this term. Club is determined to step on. Meantime it would be a year of guaranteed footy in The Championship and the POSSIBILITY of even better the year after.

 

[judge]

The only player we have lost in recent years and ive been genuinely pissed off about it is coady and i still cant belirve we didnt push the boat out to get him back

The rest can fuck off and discombobulate

 

[Mouth of the South]

Did anyone call Bristol City a selling club when they sold Baldock early last season. No - why? Because they invested wisely in his replacement/s (and in the case of Agard actually recruited him before Baldock left). Something that can't be levelled at Utd following the Maguire sale.

I would of course prefer to Murphy to stay but if either the club or player decides a move is the best option for them, I hope Adkins is able to utilize the monies to not only recruit an adequate replacement but also strengthen the side overall.

 

[Bartleby]

Possibly, Brighton, Brizzle and whoever else may be interested in him

Of course not everyone is money orientated but by the same token, not everyone isn't and furthermore, we could quite easily not be swapping positions next season

Players have short careers and will do what's best for themselves and their families. Money's a good reason to up sticks, add playing at a higher level and I don't think it's cut and dried.

Personally, on his day Murphy can give opposition teams a problem whichever division he plays in. However, his form the last couple of months of the season was IMO average at best.

If he doesn't want to be at the Lane and we can get get a good fee for him then he can go for me.

Time will tell, but as with HM, once players heads are turned it can be difficult.

Thought he looked knackered the last two months of the season to be honest, but then he played more games than anyone else.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

No we shouldn't, we need to keep our best players, and Murphy is for me our very best player.

Same logic as the Harry Maguire situation, yes we got some money, but then watched our defence crumbling to dust last season.

Jamie Murphy is a good player but for me £1.5m is a fair price and gives us additional funds for a very good manager to use. I would want to lose Jamie but at that price I would seriously weigh it up.

On his day he's very good but people forget his quiet games.

 

[metalblade]

As the great Alan Woodward said stop selling your best players ............................... until we have someone better at the club we should do all we can to keep him.

 

[bladesmanluke]

Unfortunately we have to be a selling club . We are in league 1 . Its all about balancing the books and squad . If done with some thought , care and attention , it can work out , without a detrimental affect to the team .Every player has a price .

Also look at Southampton . Its how we man manage the situation . The problem we have got , is history tells us , we always get it wrong.

UTRB

I disagree. I think it is genuinely 100% impossible to replace our best players when we sell them. Right the way back to the sale of Jagielka we have not even once attracted a player of equal or better quality as a replacement when we've sold a player. If we sell Murphy we will once again regress as a club just like last summer

 

[Jehovah]

Amazes me that people are so confident he will not go. When have we ever stood firm over a player that other clubs are after? There is interest in him. A bid has been submitted. Its over, hes gone. Youneed to accept this and move on with life.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Amazes me that people are so confident he will not go. When have we ever stood firm over a player that other clubs are after? There is interest in him. A bid has been submitted. Its over, hes gone. Youneed to accept this and move on with life.

No one, me, you, or any other poster, can know what will happen. If Murphy is sold, adopting a position of 'told you so' doesn't actually prove anything. If he stays then that in itself refutes your fatalist position. The fact that a player is sold is dependent on various factors, so jumping to the conclusion that it's a case of the same old limp wristed response tells us nothing. We all draw conclusions, often to confirm our own prejudices, so I'd prefer to give the board the benefit of the doubt as they're now showing a resolve that has been lacking in years gone by.