'It's an absolute disgrace'

[Koh Samui Blade]

This team ( and manager ) are realistically so far off PL standard it'll be embarrassing if we get promoted . Granted if promoted we'd sign players but we need more than we can realistically obtain or afford and a complete change of management and coaching staff .
We really need another year in the championship with the a stronger squad and a change of football culture , style and way of playing .

If we can't afford the players, how can we afford sacking everyone, replacing with A New manager and coaching staff, who will then want to bring in their own players to play the system they want to.
Some people talk crap on here!

 

[Yoonited]

The salient facts here.

Chris Wilder rebuilt a new team pretty much from scratch last summer, has put us through in the top two most of the season despite starting off two points behind the rest, and rebuilt a lot of trust with the fan base who thought he was a busted flush at the of last season and should have been sacked (myself included)

We drop points at a well drilled and well organised Oxford side at a ground where plenty of others struggled this season and the world has fallen in.

I’ve seen plenty of poor performances during the last 40 odd years that have been deserving of the players getting pelters. Losing a game for the first time in 8 games isn’t that time.

Having looked at the stuff on here after the match Saturday, it felt like there was one or two who actually seemed satisfied we lost as it meant they could come on here and spout utter fucking crap.

Empty Vessels make the loudest noise

Whatever trust he was rebuilding he's demolished for some with his boring football,tactical ineptitude,bewildering interviews and criticism of fans,even if they both deserved it.
It was interesting listening to Danny Murphy saying he never heard managers he played for openly criticising anyone via the media,because they had more class.
I agree.Keeping your counsel gains far more respect.Think it yes,but keep it to yourself.
Not a fan of Murphy by the way but the point remains,true winners have humility and are less likely to lose those whose trust they need the most.

 

[Davalon]

All of this is spot on. Which is why I would be quite happy to see a European Super League which much of the TV money would follow, leaving a far more level playing field for those left behind.

I'd have never ever gone with this a few years ago but I'm with you now

 

[Pedro Verde]

I'd have never ever gone with this a few years ago but I'm with you now

PL has changed in the last 5 years the sooner the likes of Liverpool et al fuck off the better

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

Born in London in 1986 raised in Northern Ireland

Happy to be corrected mate! He sounds more like he's from the Republic, although that may be me going deaf and daft!!

 

[Grey Blade]

I'd have never ever gone with this a few years ago but I'm with you now

Likewise. If they all clear off to a European Super League and keep it a closed shop I would be quite happy with that. The only problem I see is winning the Championship (or whatever they would call it) couldn't lead onto the European Cup as it used to do. European football was something ro look forward to when we only had one team in the European Cup, one in the Cup winners Cup and 3 or 4(?) in the Fairs Cup.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Likewise. If they all clear off to a European Super League and keep it a closed shop I would be quite happy with that. The only problem I see is winning the Championship (or whatever they would call it) couldn't lead onto the European Cup as it used to do. European football was something ro look forward to when we only had one team in the European Cup, one in the Cup winners Cup and 3 or 4(?) in the Fairs Cup.

No reason why what’s left behind in the various leagues couldn’t have their own European competitions.

 

[Grey Blade]

No reason why what’s left behind in the various leagues couldn’t have their own European competitions.

I don't see why not. One of the problems would be that the teams we looked forward to seeing (Real Madrid, Barcelona , Milan teams) wouldn't be part of it and I doubt the lesser European teams would create anything like the same interest

 

[The Crab]

There were indications it was coming earlier on in the season. We played and lost at Port Vale in October and that got a bit tasty in isolation. Bury was just abject though. Tuesday night, fucking freezing and utter dogshit.

I think the atmosphere at Rochdale away was toxic too - I'm sure Woolford was subbed after half an hour to stop him chinning someone in the crowd.

He’d have probably missed…

 

[Nick Jansky]

I don't see why not. One of the problems would be that the teams we looked forward to seeing (Real Madrid, Barcelona , Milan teams) wouldn't be part of it and I doubt the lesser European teams would create anything like the same interest

I would say our ceiling would be the Europa or Conference leagues so I wouldn’t expect to see those clubs anyway. As things stand our chances of ever qualifying for the Champions League are pretty much zero, it’s going to be hard enough to even stay in the PL.

I would love to see us play in European competitions in my lifetime (I thought it was going to happen in 74/75) no matter what the opposition.

 

[UTB Blade]

He’d have probably missed…

I'm sorry, but that's just really insulting to Martyn Woolford, and not at all reflective of his time playing for us...


He'd have definitely missed...

 

[The Crab]

I'm sorry, but that's just really insulting to Martyn Woolford, and not at all reflective of his time playing for us...


He'd have definitely missed...

 

[MagnifiqueShorehamStreet]

Likewise. If they all clear off to a European Super League and keep it a closed shop I would be quite happy with that. The only problem I see is winning the Championship (or whatever they would call it) couldn't lead onto the European Cup as it used to do. European football was something ro look forward to when we only had one team in the European Cup, one in the Cup winners Cup and 3 or 4(?) in the Fairs Cup.

Agree with you, but got to say,I’ve supported the Blades for nearly 60 years, now, and in all that time,I haven’t spent many days looking forward to seeing em in Europe.

 

[Grey Blade]

I haven’t spent many days looking forward to seeing em in Europe.

Neither have I but when seeing the top European teams in action at the time of minimal TV coverage, it used to be something to look forward to. With the Champions League and mass exposure, I can't be bothered to watch - let alone subscribe to yet another Channel I've never heard of.

 

[him behind you]

That’s all true imo

Of course we will take going up , of course . But if we don’t then ,as you say , a fresh approach , new owners etc . However , we tried this a few years back - appointing a well respected European coach who tried to change our style of play and look how that turned out as in we went back to tried and tested and comfort zone through the magnificent Hecky .

It a tough one based on our Bladyness

That "Bladeyness" is the problem. We have to change if we want to be any way successful otherwise we'll become a footballing dinosaur. We can't just keep trying to find managers to

That’s all true imo

Of course we will take going up , of course . But if we don’t then ,as you say , a fresh approach , new owners etc . However , we tried this a few years back - appointing a well respected European coach who tried to change our style of play and look how that turned out as in we went back to tried and tested and comfort zone through the magnificent Hecky .

It a tough one based on our Bladyness

The problem we had last time we tried to change was because we had so many players who were only able or willing to play the way Wilder had drilled into them to enable them to overachieve as much as they had. They couldn't, or wouldn't, adapt to new methods and tactics. This was proven when Hecky came in and we reverted to what they liked. I know managers and coaches should be able to adapt players OR their own approach to be successful so faults on both sides. Look at Amorin at Manure....he's got the same problem.

I don't think that would be an issue with this group of players but we'd need to make sure if we did change the manager that he was supported to put together a team that matched his preferred style.

 

[The Fox]

Likewise. If they all clear off to a European Super League and keep it a closed shop I would be quite happy with that. The only problem I see is winning the Championship (or whatever they would call it) couldn't lead onto the European Cup as it used to do. European football was something ro look forward to when we only had one team in the European Cup, one in the Cup winners Cup and 3 or 4(?) in the Fairs Cup.

That ship has sailed, but really never existed except in people's minds .
It was never the intention that the ESL replaced any domestic league, no one was going to leave , simply play in an alternative version of the champions league.
It was a negotiating position for the bigger clubs to get a bigger piece of the pie .
The newly formatted Champions league has met them half way for now , however if it raises its head again it'll not mean that clubs leave thier own domestic leagues .

 

[Yoonited]

If we can't afford the players, how can we afford sacking everyone, replacing with A New manager and coaching staff, who will then want to bring in their own players to play the system they want to.
Some people talk crap on here!

Aye. How short sighted of our new investors to buy a club who are guaranteed promotion so they don't have to consider any costlier scenario,like replacing failure with potential success,causing further potential cost/investment..
You're bang on Peak.Some people do talk shite on here.

 

[Yoonited]

I would say our ceiling would be the Europa or Conference leagues so I wouldn’t expect to see those clubs anyway. As things stand our chances of ever qualifying for the Champions League are pretty much zero, it’s going to be hard enough to even stay in the PL.

I would love to see us play in European competitions in my lifetime (I thought it was going to happen in 74/75) no matter what the opposition.

That final game St Andrew's,closest we ever came.
On top of which were charged at mid game (ish) by some of their mob.
Was it 0 0

 

[KOPPO]

need to chat sufc it eases my pain feel ill friday ,my message to chris wilder our good boss at the lane i hope you read it pal.sheffield united this season have been amazing with not much spent they young us and new lads and last seson players in team sqaud fight on and are class theyve donethe club proud so have you gaffer and knilly and coaches to get us on the brink of top flight so people on here and social media give the man a break he has haters like i do but no one is perfect no one can ever deny that he loves the great sufc football club i just want the kop legend good man gaffer to let the sufc good lads who have done wonders to take us to 3rd in 2nd tier to be more direct intent and go for 5 more wins to get 2nd place stuff play offs were crap in that so go for it and just attack teams from the off please m8ty,i back you on here to win all the last 5 games cheers tufty,,,utb..in tufty i trust,chow,top man tufty..utb......we fight on,we neve quit prove the doubters wrong who think we cannot go up weve won most games never doubt SUFC i never do we will be back ive loved sufc since 13/2/1962 my dad loved blades and you chris has a player you will show them all who slate you your a great gaffer buddy took us to 9th a few years ago we build from that .forza sufc for life from pasta italian kop blade..xx

 

[The Fox]

If we can't afford the players, how can we afford sacking everyone, replacing with A New manager and coaching staff, who will then want to bring in their own players to play the system they want to.
Some people talk crap on here!

I think that's the conundrum for all championship clubs and owners and why the PL is becoming a closed shop .
Spend little and your going back down , spend £100m and you still have a good chance of going down , Ipswich net spend £107m .
No easy answer because it's something no team can realistically prepare for 12 months out of the basis they're definitely going up and it's something that needs a long run up .

I'd still love to get there ,although it'll be a steep learning curve for the new owners .

 

[Balham]

Spend little and your going back down , spend £100m and you still have a good chance of going down , Ipswich net spend £107m .

Ipswich spent a net £107m on Championship players and are, funnily enough, heading back to the Championship. If we are going to have any chance of staying up we will need to box clever and sign players from beyond the borders of the UK and Ireland. And I don’t mean Leicester-born Bangladeshis and Stoke-born Chileans.

 

[The Fox]

Ipswich spent a net £107m on Championship players and are, funnily enough, heading back to the Championship. If we are going to have any chance of staying up we will need to box clever and sign players from beyond the borders of the UK and Ireland. And I don’t mean Leicester-born Bangladeshis and Stoke-born Chileans.

Make you right regarding ipswich , not a blueprint.
As for foreign players in other leagues, it's a bit of a shot in the dark , introducing players to English football for the 1st time and at the top level is a risk ..
Then again it's as good a plan as any .

 

[Torrix1889]

Ipswich spent a net £107m on Championship players and are, funnily enough, heading back to the Championship. If we are going to have any chance of staying up we will need to box clever and sign players from beyond the borders of the UK and Ireland. And I don’t mean Leicester-born Bangladeshis and Stoke-born Chileans.

I completely agree. With Wilder in charge the signings will be British, (with as you say maybe the odd Choudhury or BBD type) and mainly consist of good, solid Championship pros who "might" be able to do a job.....that approach will only lead to us coming straight back down.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Who? You're making stuff up again. I doubt there's anyone on this forum that hasn't booed at some point. I spent most of last season doing it.

I didn’t boo last season, but I definitely made loud sarcastic comments which made everyone around me roll their eyes…Ahh, that might be why everyone left so early.

 

[KOPPO]

love this fella hope to meet him before i go,great interview and well said gaffer youve all done great to be in 3rd place with not much money spent on team and lots of free transfers and young players stepping up but some fanbase are nasty towards everyone because you loose 2 games in a row i hate twitter its so 2 faced keyboard warriors some slate you blades when you loose then love you when you win,its a disgrace very true tufty pal.lack of respect for were sufc are in the league youve all done wonders pal just try to win last 5 games is all you can do,i just want a bit more direct play just go all out attack from off shore up defence and take the shackles of buddy let them go for it in last 5 matches me no matter what ill love sheffield united and i hope you stay for life m8ty your doing a great job in your rebuild ill always back you till my last breath hand on heart hes a real true blade like myself he says how it is change for no one pal ,love this picture your one of us tufty kop legend ,all the best chris wilder and al blades team ,from italian kop blade pasta man,,,utb..

 

[AWetFlannel]

Ipswich spent a net £107m on Championship players and are, funnily enough, heading back to the Championship. If we are going to have any chance of staying up we will need to box clever and sign players from beyond the borders of the UK and Ireland. And I don’t mean Leicester-born Bangladeshis and Stoke-born Chileans.

But we stayed up without doing that last time and Leicester and Southampton have gone down this season buying predominantly from abroad.

Where you sign players clearly doesn't determine your fate.

 

[Overthehills]

Likewise. If they all clear off to a European Super League and keep it a closed shop I would be quite happy with that. The only problem I see is winning the Championship (or whatever they would call it) couldn't lead onto the European Cup as it used to do. European football was something ro look forward to when we only had one team in the European Cup, one in the Cup winners Cup and 3 or 4(?) in the Fairs Cup.

If it doesn’t happen over here in the next season or so then I am more than certain that the Saudi’s will continue a push to capitalise on creating the premium brand of football.

They have the open wallets to continue ploughing money into the forming of a premium super league of the worlds best players.

Should it ever take of properly, it would devalue the PL brand and for the elite, attracting the best players around would become difficult.

 

[Camden Blade]

The turning point in the season will be seen not as the defeat at Oxford but Wilder's overreaction to the fans' criticism of it. It created an us and them divisiveness just at the point where it was critical we remained united. Wilder should have ignored it.

 

[Bladesman]

The turning point in the season will be seen not as the defeat at Oxford but Wilder's overreaction to the fans' criticism of it. It created an us and them divisiveness just at the point where it was critical we remained united. Wilder should have ignored it.

Not saying something didn't need to be said regarding the odd few fans but the way he went about it was awful.

 

[Stretch]

Folk are pointing towards Wilder's post match comments, but it was the Oxford performance that started this. WTF went off after the Cov win? Did the players think it was job done?