'It's an absolute disgrace'

[Carlton Blade]

It is. It’s my job.

OK

 

[Slim Man]

Perhaps it was aimed at you then
So much more expressive than “(entitled) twat “ don’t you think ?
Aye ?

I think you really do try too hard to sound clever, coming from someone who doesn't realise a question mark doesn't require a space before it

 

[1987]

I must have missed the bit where people have to follow a strict form of etiquette post game. Pay your ticket money, say mwhat you like (within the boundaries of the law) Treat "punters" like twats, don't be surprised if you eventually lose their loyalty.

He's given the fans loads of praise this season to be fair, not sure how they're getting treated like twats. It's been mostly one way traffic in that regard, but maybe I'm missing something.

Kings one week, slagging our players off the next. Hallmarks of a brittle fanbase that really does need to get a grip. I'm glad he's backed the players, and it's sad, almost embarrassing, that there was a need for him to.

 

[The Fox]

FFS , when did the world of football become populated by a bunch of snowflakes. Fans , players , managers all getting upset over fuck all .

Deary me

 

[Carlton Blade]

He's given the fans loads of praise this season to be fair, not sure how they're getting treated like twats. It's been mostly one way traffic in that regard, but maybe I'm missing something.

Kings one week, slagging our players off the next. Hallmarks of a brittle fanbase that really does need to get a grip. I'm glad he's backed the players, and it's sad, almost embarrassing, that there was a need for him to.

Twats was a bit harsh but I was referring back to a post someone else had made. There's been plenty of times Wilder has questioned whether fans have the right to question him or the players. I just don't think it's necessary. I'd imagine some fans found it embarrassing when Wilder was slagging off fans for having issues with the style of play.

I don't find either thing embarrassing. I don't think fans need to "get a grip" either. Every individual has the right to interact with the team (within reason) in the way they see fit.

 

[s20Blade]

Think it's just a managers tactic to get the players back on board emotionally and fired up

Fans are the villains while Wilder is the protector

 

[1987]

Twats was a bit harsh but I was referring back to a post someone else had made. There's been plenty of times Wilder has questioned whether fans have the right to question him or the players. I just don't think it's necessary. I'd imagine some fans found it embarrassing when Wilder was slagging off fans for having issues with the style of play.

I don't find either thing embarrassing. I don't think fans need to "get a grip" either. Every individual has the right to interact with the team (within reason) in the way they see fit.

You don't think it's embarrassing that a team in second, that has taken the most points in the league this season, are getting asked about fan reactions in press conferences?

 

[Carlton Blade]

You don't think it's embarrassing that a team in second, that has taken the most points in the league this season, are getting asked about fan reactions in press conferences?

No. Football fans of all teams are irrational. It's putting your faith in something you have no control over

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Be annoyed and angry but calling players wankers being top 2 all season.. wow!

Burnley away in the PL last season only justified that IMO!

 

[Snowflake]

Real shame that the players and coaching staff have to. Use our own fans dour miserable entitled babyness as motivation

Interesting use of the phrase”entitled babyness “ Should sort out 3 points from Millwall !!

 

[Cheesebored]

I don't find either thing embarrassing. I don't think fans need to "get a grip" either. Every individual has the right to interact with the team (within reason) in the way they see fit.

That's the crux of it. What's within reason for some is overboard for others. Some of the stick towards Hamer was (allegedly) pretty nasty.

 

[LondonBlade89]

Twats was a bit harsh but I was referring back to a post someone else had made. There's been plenty of times Wilder has questioned whether fans have the right to question him or the players. I just don't think it's necessary. I'd imagine some fans found it embarrassing when Wilder was slagging off fans for having issues with the style of play.

I don't find either thing embarrassing. I don't think fans need to "get a grip" either. Every individual has the right to interact with the team (within reason) in the way they see fit.

Wilder has said many things this season that have made me cringe. But if he’s standing up for his players after they’ve received abuse from the fans after that game then he’s got my full backing.

Your general point is that fans can say what they like. Of course they can. Equally Wilder can be critical of that. And I’d also be incredibly critical of that. Shouting abuse at your own players when you’re second in the league is utterly embarrassing. Yes, you’re welcome to do what you like. But you’re welcome to get something back for that too. I’m fairly firmly with Wilder on this.

 

[Bladeloyal]

Unfortunately a few people that can't take their shandy have got the 95% that backed the lads at the end .

 

[thehet]

A very very disappointing performance, disappointing in just about every aspect. The players didn't seem to want to win that game, or thought they only needed to turn up.

I think letting them know we don't appreciate that is fair. Very fair indeed. The rest of the season doesn't mean performances like that are acceptable when we're gunning for promotion at the business end of the season. You can't dial it in.

Spot on.

If the players receive our highest praises for the performance and result against Coventry (and rightfully so), then they expect some mild dissatisfaction after an abject performance and result against Oxford. How far should it go, I don't know. Abuse, no. However, some on here wouldn't even allow you to boo.

 

[Carlton Blade]

That's the crux of it. What's within reason for some is overboard for others. Some of the stick towards Hamer was (allegedly) pretty nasty.

If people go clearly overboard, ban them. Players don't deserve personal abuse

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Just a reminder. It's not real. It's just a bit of pantomime. Posters on this thread coming at it with logic. It doesn't work like that. None of those fans who apparently had a go at the players premeditated it, none of them processed it, thought it through, weighed up the options, and plumped for abuse.

It was just a bit of pantomime that happens in footie crowds. It's not real. Wilder should know that.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Wow, there’s me thinking the away day contingent are all 100% happy clapper fanboys…Time to break up the cartel me thinks.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Wilder has said many things this season that have made me cringe. But if he’s standing up for his players after they’ve received abuse from the fans after that game then he’s got my full backing.

Your general point is that fans can say what they like. Of course they can. Equally Wilder can be critical of that. And I’d also be incredibly critical of that. Shouting abuse at your own players when you’re second in the league is utterly embarrassing. Yes, you’re welcome to do what you like. But you’re welcome to get something back for that too. I’m fairly firmly with Wilder on this.

He certainly allowed to be critical. If it'sfor the specific, personal abuse of players I'dbe happy to see it followed up with temporary banning orders. But he's done it so often, over such trivial things that it's lost meaning to me

 

[Cheesebored]

However, some on here wouldn't even allow you to boo.

Who? You're making stuff up again. I doubt there's anyone on this forum that hasn't booed at some point. I spent most of last season doing it.

 

[Frank the tank]

It's obviously to try and stir the fans out of their grey matchstick men and cats and dogs coma and rile them up to get behind the lads on Tuesday
Shame he has to do this but well you know our fans have high expectations

 

[Davalon]

Usual over-reaction to a handful of dickheads at most who got told where to go by other fans.

But hey let's make it sound like it was a significant part of the following for headlines, clicks, and those who like to tell everyone how great they are.

 

[LondonBlade89]

Just a reminder. It's not real. It's just a bit of pantomime. Posters on this thread coming at it with logic. It doesn't work like that. None of those fans who apparently had a go at the players premeditated it, none of them processed it, thought it through, weighed up the options, and plumped for abuse.

It was just a bit of pantomime that happens in footie crowds. It's not real. Wilder should know that.

You can trivialise lots of things done in anger in the same way. It doesn’t stop them having meaning. If it’s led to our best player getting into it with fans, it ain’t exactly great. And maybe Wilder’s right to stick up for them/him.

 

[Nick Jansky]

However, some on here wouldn't even allow you to boo.

I don’t boo the players, but I love watching other people do it because the whole concept of doing it is so ridiculous and I like laughing at people behaving in such a primitive way. Next time it happens, just look at someone who is booing & you’ll see what I mean, it’s rare to get the opportunity to witness another person looking quite so witless. Or try doing it in the mirror, I guarantee you’ll laugh at what a dick you look

 

[Belvedere Blade]

 

[cooperblade]

I thought our support was pretty poor on Saturday. It all felt a bit passive and defeatist to me and lacking in the pashun that led to several scuffles in the away end at full time. An off day for everyone involved.

No problem at all with Wilder having a pop at those who went overboard with the stick at the end - he's not talking about the odd boo or wanker sign, he's talking about people making their way to the front to hurl abuse at the players. I'd expect him to defend his players in this scenario. Feels like some people are saying he shouldn't be so sensitive whilst also being sensitive about him criticising the fans.

 

[Tezza1889]

Nobody has mentioned this yet, so with the interview (which I've listened to btw) i feel the need to address this in my own way with my own feelings...

I've got carried away with the dream that maybe we'd have a shot at winning the league and picking up that beautiful trophy, maybe, just maybe this time we wouldn't be bridesmaids, Saturday confirms that we are not a team that wins the league, we will at best be runners up to Burnley, its not the team or wilders fault that i am compleely deflated, but the people who went to Oxford might have had the same feelings and hopes.. who knows.

We won't get anything at Burnley, that will be the day they put daylight between us, in my opinion, because they make it count when they can capitalise on thier rivals.

We didn't on Saturday, and i think it spoke volumes especially about the style of play, and it wasn't the first time, remember Bristol when we dropped the ball..

Wilder can be as upset as he wants with the fans, and they dont deserve any criticism over the season, but that was devastatingly poor on saturday, and just when we thought they'd started to click after Cov, taken the wind out of many a Blade I can tell you, we were so close.

It's still to fight for, so who knows.. hope I'm wrong and sorry for the negativity, the title was in our hands...

Utb..

 

[William Large]

Unfortunately it’s indicative of society that so many of the younger generations are entitled brats nowadays.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m extremely mardy when we have lost but let’s take Saturday in context to the rest of the season.

I accept that we haven’t played as well as our results suggest all season but FFS if there was ever a time to just get behind the team for the last few games.

Maybe it’s Chris’ way of motivating the players, maybe it’s his way of protecting them.

I get the ‘I paid my money so I’m entitled to voice an opinion’ argument to an extent, but some fans reaction to defeats - even draws - is embarrassing.

 

[Cheesebored]

I thought our support was pretty poor on Saturday. It all felt a bit passive and defeatist to me and lacking in the pashun that led to several scuffles in the away end at full time. An off day for everyone involved.

No problem at all with Wilder having a pop at those who went overboard with the stick at the end - he's not talking about the odd boo or wanker sign, he's talking about people making their way to the front to hurl abuse at the players. I'd expect him to defend his players in this scenario. Feels like some people are saying he shouldn't be so sensitive whilst also being sensitive about him criticising the fans.

It was an inconsequential handful of made up nothingness. I've just read it on here. Wilders right to a) Call it out and b) Back his players.

 

[Nesh Blade]

I thought our support was pretty poor on Saturday. It all felt a bit passive and defeatist to me and lacking in the pashun that led to several scuffles in the away end at full time. An off day for everyone involved.

No problem at all with Wilder having a pop at those who went overboard with the stick at the end - he's not talking about the odd boo or wanker sign, he's talking about people making their way to the front to hurl abuse at the players. I'd expect him to defend his players in this scenario. Feels like some people are saying he shouldn't be so sensitive whilst also being sensitive about him criticising the fans.

Agree, I haven’t made it to as many away games this season after doing all but 2 of them last season which was a long old slog at times. I was really looking forward to it especially after great home atmosphere on Friday vs Cov, but it was pretty flat down at the front where I was and a lot of moaning and not a lot of singing. Tried my best but not a lot doing around me. I was disappointed in the performance and overall match day experience tbh but didn’t feel the need to offer out Souza for a scrap

 

[Carlton Blade]

I thought our support was pretty poor on Saturday. It all felt a bit passive and defeatist to me and lacking in the pashun that led to several scuffles in the away end at full time. An off day for everyone involved.

No problem at all with Wilder having a pop at those who went overboard with the stick at the end - he's not talking about the odd boo or wanker sign, he's talking about people making their way to the front to hurl abuse at the players. I'd expect him to defend his players in this scenario. Feels like some people are saying he shouldn't be so sensitive whilst also being sensitive about him criticising the fans.

From my point if view, it's more to do with the previous times criticism of fans has come from Wilder, when it's seemed petty and more about him having a bruised ego.

I do stand by the fact that he is way too sensitive to criticism, but I'll happily admit that this probably seems a bit different and I've maybe misinterpreted his point this time. Anyone going apeshit in a players face like that, I'd be happy to see them banned. They aren't players, aren't part of the club. They don't get the right to get in a players face and personally abuse them. Grow up.