Investment for CW?

[ShockingBadBuy]

Only one man for the position of new owner then..

 

[Kev Gee]

Just because HRH has activated a clause doesn't mean that the deal has to be agreed?

Surely thats were negotiations come in?

I would assume that Kev could sell his stake to anyone he chooses. But is obliged to look at HRHs offer.

 

[Blade56]

some of us....are all pissing in the wind regards likely scenarios

There, fixed it for ya 58

HRH has activated a clause

But has HE.

 

[sheffielder]

The article said that he was ‘heading the plan’. It could be McCabe’s idea for the Prince to buy him out with the support of this consortium.

I think some people are assuming there’s a boardroom battle going on when actually there’s been no real evidence for it.

For anyone to buy United the partnership I imagine they would need to be resolved first and maybe that’s why it’s been triggered.

I don’t think there is a battle of any kind either and if the prince doesn’t have any investors this is his only way out.

Could be an interesting week..

 

[snootyfenooty]

So you agree we actually needed 2-3 players then?

And you also agree that 2 out of those 3 could actually make the step up?

We were in a position where we had Lundstram, Fleck, Duffy and Carruthers as the only players available for 3 positions and there was no real cover for either Fleck or Lundstram. Signing one player for £3m would have been a brilliant idea if one of those 4 had got injured just afterwards. It would have left us back in the same position.

My, you're a bit tetchy this morning aren't you. I don't think I said that 2 out of 3 might make it. You're also forgetting Brooks by the way. And you don't plan a team around your main man and his replacement breaking a leg.

 

[I should coco]

Leonard - the jury's out

That would be the hanging judge and jury then?

Three bit part sub appearances in the league and the 'experts' on here have seen enough. The last thing we need to do is give the lad a fair chance.

 

[Blade56]

Lets say in an ideal world we would have Coutts, Fleck & Duffy/Brooks as the midfield three. This leaves Lundstram, Evans, Holmes, Leonard, Carruthers on the sidelines. If we are promised investment, then expect another two of higher quality to come in. That leaves about 7 or 8 mids on the sidelines, more than we would ever need. The 3 new signings would never have come in if there was a big plan in place. The club would be competing with my missus for hoarder of the year title.

We can follow the age old tradition of loaning out our surplus players to local clubs in the lower leagues, for example next season we could loan several players to Sheffield Wednesday

 

[snootyfenooty]

That would be the hanging judge and jury then?

Three bit part sub appearances in the league and the 'experts' on here have seen enough. The last thing we need to do is give the lad a fair chance.

That's exactly what I said. The jury's out, we haven't seen what he can do yet.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I hear that statement on a regular basis. Sometimes it's reyt and sometimes it isn't. Nixon doesn't get 100% of his rumours correct, but he doesn't do too badly. In view of what's currently going on at our club, perhaps there's some credence to it?

Why? Where is this money coming from? Is it a credible story with sources or is it just an easy story to type to assume a reasonable low level and comparatively poor member of the Saudi royal family is loaded and has weathy investors?

Based on logic and he credibility, or what should be lack of sources, I’m going to play my “bullshit” card.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Alan Nixon doesn’t get much wrong when it comes to us, seems to have good sources both here and at Wednesday.

So he could easily be being fed stories by the owners to help influence the fans opinions?

 

[Esablade]

Question from me - if Kev was in his way out why would wilder go with him on Monday? Unless they had been somewhere before...

Why wouldn't he?

 

[BushBlade]

As far as I am aware the midfielders in our squad are contracted to 2020 and beyond. Getting rid is easier said than done, e.g. Carruthers in the JTW. One poster in another thread suggested that instead of spending £2-3m on three players in an attempt to replace Coutts, we may have been better off spending the same on one player of higher quality. I think that would have been a better option.

One of those players he quoted was signed in the summer before we knew Coutts was going to break his leg. It's easy to be a genius with hindsight. We went through this last summer; as a newly promoted side there wasn't a chance of signing a midfielder better than Coutts or Fleck without spending £5m + and breaking our wage structure, if at all.

The idea that we could just sign a top championship midfielder for £2-3m doesn't reflect reality, nor does it allow for possible injuries to Fleck or Duffy, key players.
And it's got nothing to do with investment we may or may not get in the summer, based on a bye-line by a journalist. We needed players in the JTW and we've signed the best we could find for the budget available.

 

[LJBlade]

My, you're a bit tetchy this morning aren't you. I don't think I said that 2 out of 3 might make it. You're also forgetting Brooks by the way. And you don't plan a team around your main man and his replacement breaking a leg.

Tetchy, really? I’m only trying to have a discussion.

You said that the jury was still out on Leonard and that Evans was a possibility. You didn’t say that they wouldn’t/ couldn’t make the step up so you therefore agreed that 2 out of the 3 could.

Brooks was out ill during January and is still out in mid February, hence why I didn’t list him in the players that were available. Granted you don’t plan around those sort of things but you at least consider that they might happen and you ensure that you have more than 1 replacement for 3 positions.

Your original point was that we shouldn’t have signed any of the players that we did in January, instead of just opting to sign one for big money. This would have left us short and would have ended our chances of making the playoffs this season

 

[BushBlade]

Holmes - never at his age and history
Leonard - the jury's out
Evans - possibly

What you said about Holmes is exactly what I said about Wright at the start of last season and I'm still wiping the egg off my face. Wilder won't get everything right but I'll give him the benefit of doubt until proven otherwise.

 

[snootyfenooty]

You said that the jury was still out on Leonard and that Evans was a possibility. You didn’t say that they wouldn’t/ couldn’t make the step up so you therefore agreed that 2 out of the 3 could.

Thank you for telling me how my mind works.

I think we've covered the rest of your post.

 

[Pinchy]

This could be genuinely game changing.

 

[snootyfenooty]

What you said about Holmes is exactly what I said about Wright at the start of last season and I'm still wiping the egg off my face. Wilder won't get everything right but I'll give him the benefit of doubt until proven otherwise.

The impression I get with Holmes' signing is that he's one of Wilder's boys. Other than that I don't see any upside in signing him. Pretty much the same scenario with Clough/Brayford (which attracted so much ridicule on this forum).

 

[LJBlade]

Thank you for telling me how my mind works.

I think we've covered the rest of your post.

I wasn’t, I was telling you how words work.

I’m glad we finally agree that the players we signed were required.

 

[snootyfenooty]

I wasn’t, I was telling you how words work.

I’m glad we finally agree that the players we signed were required.

Aye, OK then.

 

[Pinchy]

The Sun being the source doesn't fill me with confidence.

Neither does the appellation ‘director Kevin McCabe’ in relation to our long-time owner and controller.

The Sun is odious, corrupt and treats the truth as it’s own plaything. I despise it so much I refuse to read this thread...







Oh.

 

[BushBlade]

The impression I get with Holmes' signing is that he's one of Wilder's boys. Other than that I don't see any upside in signing him. Pretty much the same scenario with Clough/Brayford (which attracted so much ridicule on this forum).

Ridicule in the main by people clutching at straws to find things to criticise Clough over because for some reason his poor results in the league weren't enough. The same people who ignored the fact that Bassett signed more of 'his boys' than any other manager I've seen at United. Clough was also ridiculed for signing Coutts, for the same reason, and Freeman. You're writing players off after two games, why? To try to prove a point, when you know better than to do that? Give it a rest, you're better than this.

 

[Pinchy]

Holmes - never at his age and history
Leonard - the jury's out
Evans - possibly

A jury doesn’t go out until it has heard all the evidence...

Personally I’d be happier if we still had Doyle and Montgomery. You know where you are with players like that.

 

[Pinchy]

Ridicule in the main by people clutching at straws to find things to criticise Clough over because for some reason his poor results in the league weren't enough. The same people who ignored the fact that Bassett signed more of 'his boys' than any other manager I've seen at United. Clough was also ridiculed for signing Coutts, for the same reason, and Freeman. You're writing players off after two games, why? To try to prove a point, when you know better than to do that? Give it a rest, you're better than this.

He bullied little Diego, you know...

 

[snootyfenooty]

Ridicule in the main by people clutching at straws to find things to criticise Clough over because for some reason his poor results in the league weren't enough. The same people who ignored the fact that Bassett signed more of 'his boys' than any other manager I've seen at United. Clough was also ridiculed for signing Coutts, for the same reason, and Freeman. You're writing players off after two games, why? To try to prove a point, when you know better than to do that? Give it a rest, you're better than this.

Yeah you're right. A bit of red mist descended due to another member posting in tandem with you spoiled the discussion with some random claptrap.

 

[Kev Gee]

There, fixed it for ya 58



But has HE.

We don't know and its all rumour. Even if HE hasn't then I guess its time to put your money were your mouth is!!

 

[S64 Blade]

The Prince & McCabe would have and they write the cheques.

They'd agreed a transfer budget. Hardly going to rescind on it at the potential of further investment after the transfer window. Doing so would have pissed Wilder off no end, I'm sure.

 

[Ricky]

Apparently it's these guys according to Faceweb.

 

[ourbob]

Potential.
Could.
Waiting.
Would.

When someone comes out with the word "is" I will be interested.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Only millions???



We'll need tens of millions, nay hundreds of millions probably

You financial wus, you dare only to talk in hundreds of millions?!?! Think big or think nothing at all.

I want a £500k training complex for starters, then I want my boys to be pampered to fuck, then we'll have a chef who cooks individual plates of choice, then they'll have their boots nailed on like a shire horse.........c'mon BOSS, hundreds of millions? You never heard of deflation? Today's £100 mil will be worth a pittance sooner than you realise

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]