CONFIRMED Iliman Ndiaye signs new contract to 2024

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There was a noticeable connection with him and mousset for the 23’s as well at the time I thought it was due to them both being french lads away from home but maybe it’s something innate to ndiaye’s game. It’s certainly a good sign for a link player like him
I guess it helps having that common ground. Both born in france but are also from senegal and seem proud of that. Little things like that can create friendships and that helps on the pitch
 

I guess it helps having that common ground. Both born in france but are also from senegal and seem proud of that. Little things like that can create friendships and that helps on the pitch
Yeah that’s what I’d put it down to but if he’s also showing an understanding with billy that points to something more common in his game
 
I really hope his contract situation gets sorted. It would be gutting to lose a promising lad in a position where we are desperately short. If the offer is based on performances (like debut first team appearances in cup / league), maybe Slav is trying to resolve it by meeting some of those conditions before he signs.
 

Let's get this lads contract sorted. The most exciting player we've got on the books
Agreed not saying he’s going to come in and be the saviour but he’s very flexible in terms of where he can play at the top of the pitch which would seem to suit the kind of formations Slav has deployed so far. If ndiaye comes into the fold it leaves us only needing to recruits one winger rather than two.
 

Let's get this lads contract sorted. The most exciting player we've got on the books
If he’s good enough, play him anyway. We’ve got until the JTW to persuade him to sign a new contract. If he does well and still won’t sign, we’ve always got the option of selling him, as PL clubs will be taking interest. Obviously won’t be big money with six months left but someone will take a punt and we could probably agree a small fee plus add-ons. At worst, I’d assume we’ll get better compensation if he does leave at the end of the season.
 
Must admit, I find it fucking hilarious that there was a "don't sign, don't play" edict from on high with Ndiaye, but we continued to play Lundstram regardless of his outright refusal to negotiate 😂
 
Must admit, I find it fucking hilarious that there was a "don't sign, don't play" edict from on high with Ndiaye, but we continued to play Lundstram regardless of his outright refusal to negotiate 😂
Different for 1st team contracts, up to manager to play him or not.

Remember George Hirst refused a new contract offer from Wendy a few years ago? They didnt play him. Other Academies do the same.

Saw claims that Ndiaye said he wants to play first before signing the new contract offer (we can hold his registration until he is 24) so he played on Tuesday, it looks like the ball is in his court!
 
Name an Academy who gives a lot of game time for those who refuse to sign the new contract offer?
Well I can't. But does that necessarily mean that we shouldn't?

By the same token, can you definitively say that this is the norm?
 

Well I can't. But does that necessarily mean that we shouldn't?

By the same token, can you definitively say that this is the norm?
Yes, quite often the clubs allow Academy products go on loan after they sign the new contract offer by the club
 
Well I can't. But does that necessarily mean that we shouldn't?

By the same token, can you definitively say that this is the norm?
It definitely is the norm whether it’s morally right or not is a gray area.

The solution is to beef up the rules around compensation ensuring clubs receive adequate compensation for young prospects who leave on a bosman. This means clubs would be less aggressive in pushing deals on players to protect the value of them as assets and would likely increase the amount of young players who could move to wherever best suits them and not be trapped at clubs. However this would strip the big boys of one of their advantages and as such will never happen as they’d lobby aggressively against it.
 
But don't young players who leave on Bosman's get bigger compo if they've got more minutes in the first team?

I'm bowing to you two chaps' knowledge here as I'm not sure on the subject.
 
But don't young players who leave on Bosman's get bigger compo if they've got more minutes in the first team?

I'm bowing to you two chaps' knowledge here as I'm not sure on the subject.
If we don't play him and don't offer particularly good terms we won't get much for him because we aren't valuing him highly. If someone is 22 with few or no league appearances, their compo level will be minimal, as it should be.

Play him in the team and offer him proper first team wages and even if he leaves we'd get more.
 
How did that work out for them?
Under EU rules he was allowed to join a Belgian club, Leuven, owned by the Leicester City owners (or something like that) and Wendy had less than nothing in compensation. He is now Leicester's player on loan to Portsmouth

Now we are out of EU, dont think any football clubs in the EU can take the same advantage as Leuven did?
 
Under EU rules he was allowed to join a Belgian club, Leuven, owned by the Leicester City owners (or something like that) and Wendy had less than nothing in compensation. He is now Leicester's player on loan to Portsmouth

Now we are out of EU, dont think any football clubs in the EU can take the same advantage as Leuven did?
Why not? Brexit has affected English clubs being able to bring in EU players but has it had a reciprocal effect? We managed to get Broadbent into Beerschott and tried to get Jebbo to go there a couple of weeks ago.

The clubs that play hardball with youth players tend to be in a position of strength. Young players are desperate to forge a career at at club like Man U or Chelsea, it’s the pinnacle so these clubs have a lot of leverage. For as long as a player at a club like that thinks he has a genuine chance of eventually breaking into the first team he’ll tend to do what they say.

We’re not one of those clubs. He can sit it out knowing he’ll get an offer at the end of the season from another club at least at our level, his compensation won’t be a huge amount, plenty of clubs would take a punt on him. With this, at the moment, us trying to play hardball with him is like Ronnie Corbett trying to act like John Wayne.
 
Must admit, I find it fucking hilarious that there was a "don't sign, don't play" edict from on high with Ndiaye, but we continued to play Lundstram regardless of his outright refusal to negotiate 😂

We don't know that's the case, do we? For all we know he's issued the ultimatum and said he's refusing to sign a new contract unless he gets minutes in the first team?
 
But don't young players who leave on Bosman's get bigger compo if they've got more minutes in the first team?

I'm bowing to you two chaps' knowledge here as I'm not sure on the subject.
Partially but the difference is negligible it’s more about time spent at the club and then that’s used to estimate the cost of developing that player. But currently it only takes into account the cost of coaching provided to that player not that players value as an asset.
 
We don't know that's the case, do we? For all we know he's issued the ultimatum and said he's refusing to sign a new contract unless he gets minutes in the first team?
I'm going on the Star report tbh which said he wasn't being played due to one higher up saying he couldn't play until he signed a contract. The Star is pretty much a rag, but I tend to believe this.
 
Name an Academy who gives a lot of game time for those who refuse to sign the new contract offer?
Name one other player/Academy combination who DON'T give game time to those who refuse to sign the new contract offer, other than this George Hirst shit.....please
 
Under EU rules he was allowed to join a Belgian club, Leuven, owned by the Leicester City owners (or something like that) and Wendy had less than nothing in compensation. He is now Leicester's player on loan to Portsmouth

Now we are out of EU, dont think any football clubs in the EU can take the same advantage as Leuven did?
Brexit does not change how Belgium operate their own work permit regulations about foreign workers going to work in Belgium under Belgian regulations and Belgian laws. Why would it? How could it? That's Belgium's business. Thought you'd have appreciated that.
 
People on this thread apparently claiming to know the exact contract situation of every Academy Lad at every club in England & whether they're holding out & being frozen out & not being picked. Literally thousands of kids & contracts. Sounds fucking ridiculous.
 

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