An absolute clusterf***

[Gin&Juice]

In his 25-odd years in management Wilder has never come close to getting a team relegated in the EFL. Normally his teams are in the promotion mix or at worst comfortable mid-table.

I'd be more worried about relegation if we had a different manager.

Agreed. I’m not the biggest fan of the latest Wilder iteration, but there’s worse teams and managers this season. I don’t think we’ll be up there at all, I predict this season will be reminiscent of Warnock between 2000 and 2002.

 

[Dkc]

Agreed. I’m not the biggest fan of the latest Wilder iteration, but there’s worse teams and managers this season. I don’t think we’ll be up there at all, I predict this season will be reminiscent of Warnock between 2000 and 2002.

There are too many big teams with parachute payments for us to hope for promotion. (the three that came down for starters). Seventh or eighth place and play-offs is probably the best we can hope for. Anyone hoping for top 2 is in for a disappointing season.

 

[Keen Blade]

Those present sucked it up. Embarrassing.

I was there and i sucked up none of it.
I wanted to vomit.
Utter BS , it was.

 

[Champagneblade]

There are too many big teams with parachute payments for us to hope for promotion. (the three that came down for starters). Seventh or eighth place and play-offs is probably the best we can hope for. Anyone hoping for top 2 is in for a disappointing season.

To be fair 2/3 of the prior parachute teams are gone.

Leicester through the trapdoor, Ipswich went up and Saints have plenty on their plate with the awkward set up with their current manager and lower 2nd year payments with players who gave it a go last time perhaps deciding to look elsewhere.

West Ham will do fine. They’ll raise a lot of cash and then cherry pick players good enough to get them up, I’ve no doubt.

Wolves already started losing players in January, have messed around with the manager and still players want to leave after one of the lowest points totals.

Burnley only just secured a manager who doesn’t know the Championship it all. There seems genuine worry there that they are going to haemorrhage too many good players. Esteve is going, and others too.

I don’t think it is an impossible year to compete. If we aren’t too silly with who we offload we should be able to retain interest in the season.

 

[ATL Recs]

I'll bite.

Name me a Chamopionship club with no points after 6 games, that went on to get 60 pomts.

No rush,

Most recent last 25 years
Peterborough Wycombe both in championship got 0 teams
with 1 point from first six Forest got promoted and Coventry both had more than 60 points
There’s more

 

[Bell4]

We kick off the league campaign on 15th August. That’s 5 weeks away. Al decent players will be in training and building up fitness.

No need to rush and end up with an average bunch.

Man United are sorting out their midfield. Once done, probably a few players come available to a Fulham, when they’re done, a Hull, then the Championship teams. It’s the same each year.

I’m only worried if we have big gaps mid August. Not being linked to too many mid July isn’t much to worry about IMHO.

Wonderful application of to and too -bravo

 

[Iffy Onuora's Shiny Head]

A few things I would like to see happen in the near future. I don't think this needs millions of investment to do.

Can we sign some low-cost domestic or foreign talent to develop? We’ve done it domestically 10 years ago, but I can’t remember us doing it successfully from overseas aside from perhaps Anel.

I’d also like to see a higher-tempo, more exciting style of football. We seem stuck playing this U-shaped football, moving the ball everywhere except through the middle of the final third. I know it’s the most congested and difficult area of the pitch, but it’s also where you need players willing to take the ball, take risks and make things happen - we've been most succesfull with one of these players (Duffy, McGoldrick, Ndiaye and Gibbs-White did). Who is that player for us next season? Hamer?

The club’s image and messaging also need improving. The last five years have brought ownership issues, points deductions, legal cases and a manager who often repeats the same soundbites. I think supporters mainly want honesty and straight talking. Bettis is actually probably the best at that which some people on here will hate.

 

[pedro]

Many clubs have recovered with similar starts Leicester were top half while we lost 6 on the trot - Palace scored 1 lost 5 finished mid table in PL Forest even Southampton who were only a point in front of us around game 10
The owners Vision was a good one the delivery was shocking
Wilder had the audacity to blame fitness on the preseason yet his team that finished third in the previous season were knackered after an hour and it came back to bite us in the run in
Wilder talks the talk but sadly isn’t able to walk the walk those days are cherished memories now

Come on be fair we nearly beat Chesterfield on Saturday!!