CONFIRMED Harry Maguire - Signed for Hull City

[Silent Blade]

Sorry I don't buy that about Bale, everyone wanted Bale and were aware of his ability, whereas Walker didn't have the big boys in for him to push up his price. Everyone apart from Harry Redknapp seemingly who was trying to bin him, I remember moaning on here that we should snap their hands off when he was made available for transfer when on loan at Forest.

Walker was never on loan at Forest, he was on loan to us, then QPR and Villa. I find your criticism of Walker very strange

 

[MobileBlade]

Defenders are entirely different and tend to be priced as such. Forwards and midfielders always are picked up sooner and go for more.

Good point actually, I think your right. Apologies.

So we got half Walker than Southampton got for Bale although we do have a sell on fee.
I still think that can't be considered a poor deal, given the financial situation at the time, that Walker wanted to leave, and what Walkers shown before and since.
Walker isn't a Bale or a Shaw, he's a Glen Johnson (£6 Million) at best IMHO.

Can 100% guarantee you Walker didn't want to leave. It came out of the blue to him - got a phone call saying a car is coming to pick you up, you are going to discuss terms with Tottenham.

 

[metalblade]

Defenders are entirely different and tend to be priced as such. Forwards and midfielders always are picked up sooner and go for more.

Good point actually, I think your right. Apologies.

So we got half Walker than Southampton got for Bale although we do have a sell on fee.
I still think that can't be considered a poor deal, given the financial situation at the time, that Walker wanted to leave, and what Walkers shown before and since.
Walker isn't a Bale or a Shaw, he's a Glen Johnson (£6 Million) at best IMHO.

Walker is twice the player Glen Johnson will ever be.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Walker was never on loan at Forest, he was on loan to us, then QPR and Villa. I find your criticism of Walker very strange

Talking about Bale there not Walker.

Walker wasn't in form before his injury and was being pulled apart regularly around his poor positioning, something that has always been suspect that and his decision making at the top level.

 

[Silent Blade]

Talking about Bale there not Walker.

Walker wasn't in form before his injury and was being pulled apart regularly around his poor positioning, something that has always been suspect that and his decision making at the top level.

Just re read... you said "Walker had played a handful of games and we got £5-6 Million plus a sell on fee for an unproven kid. It's also total speculation that he would have made the world cup squad as he was out of form and not playing particularly well".

Walker might have had a small spell of bad form just before his injury. Same for everyone else but he is England's best right back

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Can 100% guarantee you Walker didn't want to leave. It came out of the blue to him - got a phone call saying a car is coming to pick you up, you are going to discuss terms with Tottenham.

As ever it was the bullshit, lies and propaganda that United came out with to justify a sale that simply rubbed salt into the wounds (Hopefully in the past tense!).

I.e. "Of course, we would have loved to have turned down £10M for Walker and Naughton but they were both desperate to leave, so we simply couldn't do anything to keep them".

"Don't worry though, we've managed to get Walker back for the full season on loan. Guaranteed. No way on earth that Spurs can decide to drag him back just before the transfer deadline and leave us without a right back. No siree".

"And don't forget we've also secured an exclusive deal with Spurs where we can borrow any of their promising youngsters that we take a fancy too. Well, yes. It does sound an awful lot like the normal loan system that allows any club to borrow another club's players but this one's different because it's us and Spurs."

"Ok, so we didn't actually decide to take up our exclusive option with Spurs and borrow any of their players. Never fear. There's always that friendly with Leeds to look forward to!"

 

[wizadry]

Walker is twice the player Glen Johnson will ever be.

Just to add to that regarding FB saying he wouldn't have made the world cup squad,he would have been starting at the world cup if fit,never mind making the squad.Look back at the last few england matches when both players are fit,Walker starts more often than not.

 

[JJBlade]

You cannot retrospectively set transfer prices. All those players, with the exception of Jagielka, were sold as potential PL players. That they have gone on to become more or less established at that level cannot be factored into when they were sold. For every Naughton there is three Slews.

It is up to the buying club to take the risk, it's not down to the selling club to do them a favour because the player is unproven. If a Premier League club buys a duff player it is not our problem. When a Premier League club sees something in a player they pay big money for it, and so they should, it's the only way non Premier League clubs are going to get a kick back from the unfair distribution of money.

The formula for footballing success is sell big and buy two or three players for almost as big and then keep repeating the process, if you do this consistently then every so often you get a team that is able to compete now and again. The formula for failure is selling small and getting loan or free transfers in.
This formula never works and is the reason why every medium sized club outside the top ten big clubs has had a better last 90 years than we have.

 

[JJBlade]

Nonsense again.
Walker had played a handful of games and we got £5-6 Million plus a sell on fee for an unproven kid. It's also total speculation that he would have made the world cup squad as he was out of form and not playing particularly well.
Naughton has struggled to nail down a permanent place at a Premiership club had one season experience with us and we got £3 Million.
Jagielka signed the contract when actually the valuation was about right, and wouldn't have signed the contract without it.
Can you please back up your Cahill rant with anything because as I understood it the offer to buy him was considerably more, and he didn't really want to sign for a Championship club.

I'd be interested if anyone has any comparative deals whereby a full back with one season under the belt at Championship level was sold for more than £3 Million, nevermind a fullback with 5 league appearances going for £5 Million. What did Charlton get for Jenkinson?

Ok, we have always negotiated good prices for our players, we have always replaced with excellent quality and we have always managed to have as many good times as other "Provincial Clubs" like Derby, Forest, Wolves, Birmingham, Wendy, Southampton, Leicester, Palace, Coventry etc etc.
I must be imagining our nine years in Division Three and one year in Division Four since 1980.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Ok, we have always negotiated good prices for our players, we have always replaced with excellent quality and we have always managed to have as many good times as other "Provincial Clubs" like Derby, Forest, Wolves, Birmingham, Wendy, Southampton, Leicester, Palace, Coventry etc etc.
I must be imagining our nine years in Division Three and one year in Division Four since 1980.

 

[bartman]

Ok, we have always negotiated good prices for our players, we have always replaced with excellent quality and we have always managed to have as many good times as other "Provincial Clubs" like Derby, Forest, Wolves, Birmingham, Wendy, Southampton, Leicester, Palace, Coventry etc etc.
I must be imagining our nine years in Division Three and one year in Division Four since 1980.

The issue has always been whether we should have sold the players,not the price we got for them

 

[JJBlade]

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Awww Diddums Flatulent.
Did somebody have a difference of opinion to you ? How unthoughtful of me.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Awww Diddums Flatulent.
Did somebody have a difference of opinion to you ? How unthoughtful of me.

Haha, you we're the one who stopped debating the points and had a strop like a hormonal teenager.
If that's the best you can do I'll stick to discussing it with the adults.

 

[JJBlade]

You used words like "Nonsense Again", which is pretty dismissive and disrespectful of other peoples opinions, childish even. You then try to justify Uniteds transfer policies over decades by pointing out that "We once got a good fee for somebody"

My reply back was a bit sarcastic but truthful. We historically undersell and we historically buy poorly because we look for cheap options and that's why we've constantly revisited this division every so often over the last 30 years.
Were not unlucky, we've ended up where we deserve to be based on poor transfer policy. I don't want to argue about it but a fairly large football club that ends up having their fourth different stint in this division is doing something catastrophically wrong.
My opinion is it's poor and cheapskating transfer policy that has caused it. You can have your opinion of it without me calling it "Nonsense"

 

[Houso]

We've historically undersold and historically oversold (Lee Morris is a very apposite example). Every club has done this and we're no different.

But, we have a new boardroom who have shown nothing but good intentions, so how's about cutting them a little bit of slack and not being a stereotypical bitter to the bone Blade?

 

[wizadry]

We've historically undersold and historically oversold (Lee Morris is a very apposite example). Every club has done this and we're no different.

But, we have a new boardroom who have shown nothing but good intentions, so how's about cutting them a little bit of slack and not being a stereotypical bitter to the bone Blade?

Yes but have we oversold,or have we just said we have sold them for such a good price to appease our fans,ask flatulent,he will tell ya.

Undisclosed i thought all our deals were,so how does any fucker know.

 

[Houso]

Harry has finally broken his silence then...

Sheffield United’s centre half Harry Maguire has moved a step closer to leaving South Yorkshire after suggesting his ambitions lie away from Bramall Lane.

Maguire is one of the hottest prospects in the lower leagues and Hull City and Wolves have had bids for the 21-year-old turned down by the Blades.

“The England U21 international has told Sky Sports News: "Playing in the Premier League and Europe will be a dream for me at this stage of my career.

"I've played nearly 170 games, I'm just 21 and the Sheffield United fans know I've given my all in every game I’ve played."​

Let's hurry up and get rid, even if it means not getting the full amount we want. Really don't want the lad at the club next season if he's clearly not fully committed to the club. He's clearly angling for a move to Hull going on the quote.

 

[madeinsheffield]

His head has already left by the sound of it

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Harry has finally broken his silence then...

Sheffield United’s centre half Harry Maguire has moved a step closer to leaving South Yorkshire after suggesting his ambitions lie away from Bramall Lane.

Maguire is one of the hottest prospects in the lower leagues and Hull City and Wolves have had bids for the 21-year-old turned down by the Blades.

“The England U21 international has told Sky Sports News: "Playing in the Premier League and Europe will be a dream for me at this stage of my career.

"I've played nearly 170 games, I'm just 21 and the Sheffield United fans know I've given my all in every game I’ve played."​

Let's hurry up and get rid, even if it means not getting the full amount we want. Really don't want the lad at the club next season if he's clearly not fully committed to the club. He's clearly angling for a move to Hull going on the quote.

I totally disagree. I'm sure every player in the squad dreams of playing in the Premier League and Europe.
Should we get rid of them all? Even if we don't get the full amount we want?
This should change nothing. Harry can dream all he wants until another club offers our asking price.

 

[blader]

Harry has finally broken his silence then...

Sheffield United’s centre half Harry Maguire has moved a step closer to leaving South Yorkshire after suggesting his ambitions lie away from Bramall Lane.

Maguire is one of the hottest prospects in the lower leagues and Hull City and Wolves have had bids for the 21-year-old turned down by the Blades.

“The England U21 international has told Sky Sports News: "Playing in the Premier League and Europe will be a dream for me at this stage of my career.

"I've played nearly 170 games, I'm just 21 and the Sheffield United fans know I've given my all in every game I’ve played."​

Let's hurry up and get rid, even if it means not getting the full amount we want. Really don't want the lad at the club next season if he's clearly not fully committed to the club. He's clearly angling for a move to Hull going on the quote.

Absolutely disagree with this. If we don't get the full amount offered, why should we accept? Leeds played hard ball and ended up with £11m for Ross McCormack!! If we do have this all powerful, financially amazing new ownership (can you guess I'm still sceptical?) we should not take any less than he is worth. About £3m I think.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

He'd go with my (and I presume most fans') best wishes.

However, the whole saga has nasty agent influenced smell about it. Especially the above comments made by HM himself.

He's an exceptional talent for League 1 but by no means irreplaceable for SUFC at League 1 level (Jagielka at Championship level was the irreplaceable type).

I don't think that moves for O'Grady, Brayford and McGahey are at all dependant on HM moving out, however if we did sign these players, together with those already brought in and only lost HM, then I'd take that as a successful pre-season trade.

 

[bartman]

We historically undersell
"

IMO,this is where your argument falls down. We have not historically undersold. In reality,we have historically sold when we shouldn't have (in recent history Naughton or Walker, Killa, Ward). The price was about right for the players but the board was too quick to sell and replace them with players who weren't as good.

Many LFC fans think Suerez was 'undersold', Southampton fans think the same for Lallana and Lambert. Who has done the better deal ?

 

[Rossb123]

A player expressing their desire to leave can't be good for the squad, we need to move him on now to the highest bidder. He has been a great servant to this club and we will miss him, but he is replaceable.

 

[Liaminho9]

To me this is just standard journalism, taking a quote that he wants to play in the premier league and turning it into him wanting to leave... I'm sure in a recent interview with Collins he said Harry wants to play in the premier league with this club?

 

[Houso]

I'm not of course suggesting we should accept 1.5 million if our asking price is 3 million.

But, if we get an offer of 2.5 million then we should take it and use the money to improve the squad.

We shouldn't let principle get in the way when it could mean a better chance of promotion.

 

[Houso]

To me this is just standard journalism, taking a quote that he wants to play in the premier league and turning it into him wanting to leave... I'm sure in a recent interview with Collins he said Harry wants to play in the premier league with this club?

Seems like a fairly straightforward quote to me.

Particularly the bit about him giving his all. No other reason for there to be such a quote if it wasn't in relation to him potentially moving.

 

[bartman]

Absolutely disagree with this. If we don't get the full amount offered, why should we accept? Leeds played hard ball and ended up with £11m for Ross McCormack!! If we do have this all powerful, financially amazing new ownership (can you guess I'm still sceptical?) we should not take any less than he is worth. About £3m I think.

I think £3million would seal it as NC would be able to get the 3 players he needs(c.half.right back and striker) and pay the wages.

 

[thevoot]

His head has already left by the sound of it

Aye, shame his slow lumbering body is some way behind as usual

 

[davidpinder]

It would be sensible now to approach cardiff if harry is of interest to them, a swap with Brayford plus cash would be a good deal.

 

[davidpinder]

Apparently Harry tried to run from the Sky journalist but unfortunately wasn't quick enough to out run the 48 year old guy carrying a large camera and backpack whilst eating his dinner.